Timney 667S AR-15 Small Pin 3lbs Solid Trigger

ARR-661 - AR-15 Timney Competition Drop In Trigger Small Pin Manufactured in the USA

Trigger AR-15 Small Pin .154 3 lb Single Stage Solid
with discount code (see thread here) take $20 off at Midway

Just a few i saw... just ordered all my Stuff from Midway......


Stav

Sold out at Botach, deffinately not payin over $200 for dirts, and Thanks for the heads up on the midway coupons though, may just eat the extra $10 and order from them, could probably use another mag anyway.

Midwest Gunworks

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Shipping kills it for me ($13), midway is cheapest in stock I can find thus far.

Midwest has been GREAT so far

My order wont land Till Monday... Shop is Closed so THAT means TUESDAY... Bummer... Oh Well... Shoulda just ordered it Sunday like I planned/.....LOL


My 50rd Mags Landed today... and NOW I have 19 25rd Mags also.....

Over 500rds ta BLAST at a Time... NICE

just curious... been lurking for a while and have been planning on doing this as well. has anyone used the Jard adjustable triggers? I'm looking at the 1.5lb trigger at midway for very light weight and price being what it is. from what I've read, as long as i swap out the FP spring first i shouldn't have any problems with it right? originally i had tried just bending the hammer spring, but i broke it of at the bend and need to change the FP spring anyways.

19 mags! Holy **** dude, I'm envious, you pay full price for those?
@Hilers, the reality of it is it most likely will work, if the $90 2 stage rock river works then i am sure a even lighter pull one will work, but there just havent been too many people testing it fully and letting us know. The only one that I can find that is a sure thing accessories and all and all kinds of ammo is the timney. Although I have read some good things about geissele as well on onother thread but those are even pricier.

I just put a Jard single-stage adjustable in my 15-22. The trigger comes with a new hammer spring; you don't need any other springs. Installation and adjustment took about 45 minutes and is pretty straight forward. You can d/l the instructions from the Jard web site before purchasing.

One of the adjustments is the sear engagement depth and this adjustment has a direct effect upon the trigger pull weight. Using the 1.5 lb trigger spring I could get the TP down to 1.75 lbs as measured with a Lyman digital TP gauge but I was just not comfortable with how it felt - it felt a little unstable, for lack of a better word. I increased the engagement to what I was comfortable with and wound up with a 2 lb, 5 oz pull with just a hint of creep. I am satisfied with that.

One thing to be aware of; the sear engagement screw is a 1/4"x28x1/2" hex screw that goes into the same hole the the pistol grip bolt does and is screwed up into the FCG cavity. The original pistol grip bolt is now too long and can bottom out against the adjustment screw if one isn't careful. The trigger kit includes a replacement screw, but it is made for ARs and is a tad too short for the 15-22. You will need a1/4"x28x3/4" hex bolt - about 50 cents at your local hardware store. One further note; the boss that the grip bolt and adjustment screw screws into is polymer. Be careful not to cross thread either one. It is easy to do.

The whole process isn't difficult; just pay attention to what you are doing. I almost had a hard time justifying $150 for a replacement trigger, but no matter what I did, I couldn't get the factory trigger below a creepy 4.5 pounds. Now I'm glad I spent the money.

Holy Jesus!!!

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Anybody found/made a slide fire slip over grip? Not a big fan of the grip thought maybe there was some kind of rubber slip over grip oit there someone had found or made.

Try looking for some hogue slip on grips. They make some universal ones that I'm sure could be trimmed to fit. Good idea by the way

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One with small finger grooves would be nice too. I want to make a way to take all of the play out of the stock when engaged for semi auto fire. That little bit of play (and the grip) make it hard to enjoy shooting bech rest ect. Having better positive lockup would make it more enjoyable to shoot precisely.

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Sorry for the off the wall topic change and repetitiveness of my posting lol!

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Wait, is there a lock up for the slide fire? I thought it always slid, I would love to be able to lock it in the furthest position rather then having to hold it tight against my shoulder!

You know what would be even better would be a grip that could clip onto that slide fire block so you could easily pop off the slide fire, stick your stock back on and snap a grip onto the slide fire block without having to unscrew anything!

This sounds just like the thread that was quite contentious about installing the set screw to remove trigger creep. Are you saying this is a procedure recommended by a trigger manufacturer?

T

It's not a recommendation; it's in Jard's installation instructions and must be done for the trigger to function.

Funny thing is, one trigger "expert" accomplishes the same thing by welding a bead on the bottom of the factory trigger, with other "experts" declaring it is somehow different because it isn't adjustable.

Personally, I'll go with the trigger manufacturer.

Addendum: It's also important to note that the geometry of the Jard is slightly different from the stock trigger; the Jard is designed for individual adjustment and the stock trigger isn't; and all these after-market triggers are made for the AR15/M16 platform and not specifically for the 15-22.

I like that idea, one of my sons is a left handed shooter; having the adjustable stock option and support his shooting style without having to mess with springs would be nice.

Yes it locks back for shooting single shots.

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That's a WONDERFUL idea.. Hint hint

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If the grip was static - what would pull the trigger? The design incorporates the grip as part of the movement which is what is activating the trigger. If the just moved, it would be like holding the rifle with a normal stock and moving your shoulder forward and backwards. Give it a shot.. I doubt you will have as much fun.

What they could do instead is have the finger rest be a removable plate for left/right hand shooters. A simple nylon double screw to hold it on one side or the other.

In speaking to Bumpfire.com who sells them, they are having a hard time having enough manufactured to keep up with the sales. They indicated they have sold more than 100k thus far.

Makes me wonder when big brother will turn its eye towards this.

Mike

I meant for when I didnt want to use the slide fire and just wanted to precision shoot.

Yes, there is a locking feature.

Exactly without the hassle of removing the block ect in between. Stock slides right on. Grip would too no tools required.

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Meeting UPS at shop about 11am for my Shipement

SLide Fire
Trigger
Bore Site
Oils and Cleaner.....

The HOLE Enchalada..........

Gunna be a FUN day tomorrow

Ifinally got mine to do full mag dumps the other day....it was awesome, and very gratifying to hear the whole mag get fired in 3 secs. It does take alot of practice to get the technique down tho. Specs...
Jp yellow trigger spring
Stock hammer spring
Bill springfield 3.5 lb modified trigger
Home depot firing pin spring

Accuracy VIDEO 35 to 40 yards. 100 Rounds.



This is the target. I counted around 75 on paper. Not too shabby.

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Thats why I don't mind paying $185.00 for a nice trigger - there is no practice nor technique. I simply fire simulated full-auto whenever I want from any hand position. The more pressure I put pushing the grip forward the faster it shoots.

All of the FTF seem to be with the magazines not keeping up in cycling the rounds. I have noticed a lot of fire-pin strikes at the "very" edge of the casing, resulting in no fires.

Mike

Mine should be here tomorrow!
I wonder if you could mod the mags Zen? Maybe put a small block in the bottom of the mag so the spring has more pressure. It would hold a few less, but it might be worth a shot.

GaBoy, was that full auto, I would assume so, not bad at all I counted 80 some.

Simulated auto. 80 some? Even better than I thought.
Now we just need a belt fed conversion lol!

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Belt-fed .22 LR - priceless!!!!!!

Here ya go, might have to look into this, got a complete lower all ready in the mail!
Lakeside Guns - Home of the Rimfire Beltfeds - (870) 670-4999

Yea I seen these on YouTube before; including the mini 30 22.

Between having to use a non polymer lower and that pig of an upper I doubt it would run. I wish But they said the same thing about the slide fire stock not working on any 22 so.....

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FUN Freaking Day today...

2 hours WAITING at My Shop for UPS ta show...
2 hours unsure i installed the JR Trigger Correctly

5 Minutes Install Slide fire Stock....

10 minutes loading 3 Mags.....

8 minute drive to Shooting Range....

and just SECONDS to unload 200rds.....

Ok 7 Mags (1st testing trigger) so 6 mags and I fully UNLOADED 2 in 1 Trigger Pull... rest where Multiple Bursts.... Guy when i left at Counter wondered what Fully Auto .22 it was... Nope Slide Fire i told Him... those dont work do they on .22, yup with a 3lb trigger... ya just saw it....LOL


For sure takes some Technique to do it consistent every Mag... just had my Reflex Site and Tactical Handle in front... but best FEED was holding magazine


LOTS of testing will be needed i can see.... better go get me another 2100rds from Cabellas


FREAKING stupid FUN!!!!

Glad you finally got crunk!!!!!!! Notice the grip I use in my video? Flawless. I'm sure a surefire angled foregrip would work absolutely perfect. I'm going to order one soon.

Did you acquire the drum? So many different posts I can't remember lol.

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I am CRUNKING for Sure..... watching KU beat up Kansas.. (wife went to KU and Louiville) and LOADING my Mags

I have 2 Bdog 50s.... was having issues earlier.... But seems I had some pretty DIRT rounds from out in the desert and Now the CLEAN fresh box loads fine... so ill see in the AM...

Ya stalk seems a Bit sloppy...

Hummm a Angled foregrip may be the Ticket...... maybe Cabellas down the street has one... ill swing by on the way to the RANGE.....

Couldnt tell what GRIP you had.... what was it????

200rd loaded.... 300 ta go....LOL

I have a new in box slidefire stock for sale in the for sale accessories section

Heck yea!

I worded it wrong. The way I gripped the very bottom rail. I read people saying gripping by the mag worked better than anything and I have found the opposite. I did try it and it worked fine but gripping it by the bottom rail while letting it rest in your palm made firing accurately much easier. Just give it a whirl. The harder I pull the faster it fires(WITH A 3lb TRIGGER)

I can't believe it worked bench rested on the magazine itself.
Happy capping.

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GOT YA....

I see why the Angled Grip may be the ticket.....

ill pull my GRIP off the front tomorrow and TEST her out.....


Only loaded 300rds....LOL i do have ta sell and Play with Toy Cars at noon....

Messed with Sites and Scopes.... Gunna see how Much TECHNIQUE and Weight I can use and still be AUTOLISHIOUS.....


Stav

"AUTOLISHIOUS"

DEFINITION:
"Copious amounts of automatic fire often resulting in mild, and in some cases, extreme stimulation that may result in the form of an erection."

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I think you have an urban dictionary article to write

Urban Wordfare Lol!

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Soooo...Got my timney trigger, fricken love it, when up and ran simulated auto for 2 hours, had a huge smile on my face.

2 things I noticed, wondering if anyone had any ideas. First, Some one earlier had mentioned the harder the pull forward, the faster it shoots. This did not seem to be true for mine, I still wanted to pull somewhat lightly on the front as if I pulled too hard it would just cancle out any recoil there would have been. Maybe this is due to my weight on my gun (ForeGrip, fairly large laser, 3x9 scope and red dot) I think next time I go up I will put the irons back on just to test this.
Second, and most disapointing, I could dump an entire mag no prob, but every other mag, I would easily get 3-4 rounds FTF. I picked one up and noticed it had deffinately been struck, but right along the edge of the round. Do you guys think this is just the mag not keeping up and the pin striking to soon, or maybe I need to do the firing pin spring mod so that it strikes harder.
Was lots of fun and worked very well, but I would like it to work flawlessly.
P.S. Also gunna try other ammo, as I was using Federal Bulk, but I have been using this ammo since I got the gun and had maybe 10 total FTF until yesterday where I had at least 20.

I'm tickled that you got it!!!

Okay; "the harder the pull forward, the faster it shoots". Me and another member posted that. And it's true to an extent. No, you can't pull it like your rubbing one out. However until I installed the trigger I felt the need to "baby" it. And if i didnt it wouldn't work. No I'm posting this video as an example. I had a ftf, racked the handle grabbed the gun and went back to firing instinctively. Fact is you should be able to manhandle it and forget about the pressure part. Here:


Concerning the ammo issue: I've heard both sides from the mag not keeping up to a light hammer spring. The latter being the most common. But then primers come in. CCI MiniMags give me hell sometimes. Video example here too:


With Remington thunderbolt ammo it runs mostly flawless.
First video I posted up in the thread: rem ammo full dump
Second video: rem ammo 1 FTF
Third video:CCI MiniMags (failures)? I didn't even count.

As far as weight? I'd say one optic, drum and grip at most. I've run most of what you have just not all at once.

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What a FUN FREAKING Day

My wife Chi and I had probably the Best QUALITY time we have had in Months......

Now for my Review of the Slide Fire Stalk.....

Ok.... 3lb trigger is awesome... JP trigger works flawless.....
Weight is a HUGE issue...... I had to pull off my Fore Grip.... 3x9 Scope.... and just go with Refract Site and Angled foregrip (see pic)....... and I was dialed


Went to the DESERT with 19-25rd mags and 2 Blackdog 50rd Mags to PLAY with......... ended up shooting about 700rds thru the 15-22.... what a FUN and relaxing day.....

Wife and i played Shooting games... Sun WORSHIPED.... and had a BLAST...

ok More Review.....


Could not be consistent with Blackdog 50rd drums..... to much weight i think..... but as i perfect my Technique it could be done...
Magpul Angled foregrip is AWESOME........ thumb Behind and 2 fingers in front and FULLY AUTO is accomplished... keeps my Hand off the Mag....


By the end of our day i PUMMELED my reactive BALL and discharged the last 8 MAGS Full Auto.......


Fun times for sure


For the aprox $450 you judge by the SMILE on my face if it was PRICELESS and WORTH the $$$$$


Stav

Chi and I playing inthe Desert.... S&W M&P AR15-22 Slide fire - YouTube

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First time out - just put about 300 rds through it. Like others, I couldn't get the 50 rnd drum mag to work. I could get 3-4 rnd bursts but I think its too heavy. I had the primary arms micro dot and the vertical grippod on the gun. I may try removing everything and see if that helps w/the 50rd drum.

I put in the rock river stage 2 trigger - no other mods. Hammer pin was creeping (almost spitting it out) - so I ordered some kns pins for it.

Mag Dump Video

I would highly recommend to anyone who can spare the additional coin - go with the Timney 3lb trigger. Weight hasn't been an issue with a drum, silencer, scope, foregrip, etc.

Thanks for the info - I'll have to try it. Is this the one? Trigger AR-15 Small Pin .154 3 lb Single Stage Solid

Yes. You can get it cheaper though; ~ 185.00.

Thanks,
Mike

Been looking for another 1 but all out of stock. Where did you find them for that price, please.?