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Old 01-11-2012, 09:34 PM
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This is @ 50 yards while I was zeroing my scope. Tight grouping has out shot my other .22's so I traded them....lol and Im an ok marksman at best.... Id like to hear other peoples opinions on this.(federal bulk 550ammo pack)---------(New Post 01/21/12) Just went to an Indoor range too cold to go to my favorite outdoor range, here are 6 targets @ 25 yards I labeled them with the ammo used and round count per target, lets here your opinions about them. From left to right top to bottom. left one is 10 rounds cci mini mags next one to the right 10 rounds cci mini mag the rest are 25 rounds federal bulk per target.....

(New post 02/12/12) New pics from the range @ 25 yards federal bulk ammo happy shooting

(new Post 02/20/12) New pics outdoor range @ 100 yard extremely windy though
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depends on one's precision expectation levels
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Tacticaledge, nice grouping. I find I can keep them tight with my M&P 15/22 but I have to sit and slow down my shooting. I can improve with an aftermarket trigger but I don't mind the Combat trigger for a combat rifle. Even with a 3" to 4" spread at 50yds, that is still good for combat.

I'm looking into a Spike Tactical trigger or some other vendor that brings it down to 5.5 lbs instead of the 8lbs trigger pull. Or maybe a Timney, CMC or Geissele... still on the fence....
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Tacticaledge, nice grouping. I find I can keep them tight with my M&P 15/22 but I have to sit and slow down my shooting. I can improve with an aftermarket trigger but I don't mind the Combat trigger for a combat rifle. Even with a 3" to 4" spread at 50yds, that is still good for combat.

I'm looking into a Spike Tactical trigger or some other vendor that brings it down to 5.5 lbs instead of the 8lbs trigger pull. Or maybe a Timney, CMC or Geissele... still on the fence....
Thank you Aceman58. Ive heard the spikes for low dollars works great I might give it a try I'm in limbo on it.
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great shootin, but if you want to get even more precise for SUPER CHEAP look for a used marlin model 81. its a bolt action tube fed rifle. I picked mine up off the used rack at my local cabelas for maybe 80 bucks. my rifle was built between 1937-1939 (no serial number) all i did was throw a cheapo 4-12x40 simmons scope i had layin around on it and it shoots groups smaller than your picture at 100yds. any way awesome shootin tacticaledge

edit: forget to mention it shoots .22lr, or l, or s
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Good shootin sir! And if you shot withOUT the use of a bipod or bench rest then GREAT shooting.
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I'm looking into a Spike Tactical trigger or some other vendor that brings it down to 5.5 lbs instead of the 8lbs trigger pull. Or maybe a Timney, CMC or Geissele... still on the fence....
Have you actually measured the trigger pull with a trigger pull gauge? My DVW7XXX purchased in mid-December has a 5.5 pound pull out of the box, as measured on a Lyman digital gauge. That was the average of 10 pulls. The highest single pull was 5 lbs, 14 oz.
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Thats about right mine has done the same or better depends on how well im seeing, wind, etc. Your gun probably shoots better than you do
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Old 01-12-2012, 12:14 PM
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I have done many times shooting to 100m (110yds), and with scope mp15-22 shoots regularly 6cm ( 2,3inch) groups with 10 shots with CCI Standart/ Lapua. Some bulk ammo are not so good. CCI Balser 4-5 inch groups/ 110yds/10 shots.
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its not so much the bulk ammo isn't as good, its just not held to the same standards durring manufacturing. say you take 100 rounds from a bulk pack, 50 will have x amount of powder 30 will have xx amount and 20 will have xxx so to say. also when the bullets are plopped in a bulk pack they bang up against eachother screwin up concentricity
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They seem to be pretty accurate guns. Mine at 40 yards will get a 2" group at most free handed.
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What are you using for optics? I have the iron sights and Bushnell Red Dot, but would like to set up an actual scope instead sometime for longer range shooting.
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What are you using for optics? I have the iron sights and Bushnell Red Dot, but would like to set up an actual scope instead sometime for longer range shooting.
believe it or not a $69.99 centerpoint from walmart its actually a decent scope for low dollars with mildots and lighted green or red recticle...
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I was told this is not a tight shot group by some one, uhh a big hole in the middle I guess im missing something what do you think.......Thanks to everyone who took time to look and post happy shooting make that x afraid of being on the target.....lol

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I was told this is not a tight shot group by some one, uhh a big hole in the middle I guess im missing something what do you think.......Thanks to everyone who took time to look and post happy shooting make that x afraid of being on the target.....lol
Like a previous poster commented...it comes down to your idea of "accurate". If your bragging about amazing groups yeah people are always going to have something go say but don't let that deter you. Just tell yourself every time that the next one will be better and keep practicing! The beautiful about shooting is it's a never-ending progression as long as you learn a little bit each time.

Next time maybe break up your targets a bit and instead of 50 shot groups(or whatever u usually shoot), try 5 shot groups at clean targets. That way you can see exactly what is happening each shot and relate more to how your breathing and trigger squeeze was on each pull...I guarantee it will pay off eventually and that group will be cut in half over time.

That being said, yes that is a good group and i doubt any naysayers would want to be on the other end of it

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Also, slow fire is so much more accurate than "machine-gunning" is.
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I usually take my time shootin, gettin better and better these two targets have about 100 rounds apeice at least in a 1.5 in hole not bad but I agree slow shot slow breathing means tighter groups, Ill gettim tighter
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This is @ 50 yards while I was zeroing my scope. Tight grouping has out shot my other .22's so I traded them....lol and Im an ok marksman at best.... Id like to hear other peoples opinions on this.(federal bulk 550ammo pack)
Accuracy is determined by the barrel and sighting system. *Consistency* is what you're seeing whet you shoot for groups, and the only thing (other than the shooter) that affects consistency is the cartridge. Match-grade ammo is more consistent, in terms of both bulet weight and powder charge. This makes it more expensive.

Federal bulk is about as inconsistent as it comes. Since your rifle handles bulk okay, try some Wolf Match Target, or some Lapua match grade stuff. You may be surprised.

One final note - before shooting for groups/accuracy from a clean .22 barrel, or when changing ammo, you should fir at least one round for every inch of barrel length to season the barrel to the new ammo's lube. Before shooting for groups/accuracy, I put 25-rounds of the selected ammo down my .22 barrels - even my M&P15-22.
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I gotta get some pix up but last night at 50 yards standing I put 3 into the Same Hole about a 1/8 of an inch below Bullseye. And next target 1st shot directly on it.
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I gotta get some pix up but last night at 50 yards standing I put 3 into the Same Hole about a 1/8 of an inch below Bullseye. And next target 1st shot directly on it.
Please post them wanna see.....make them believe....
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Here's some recent shots at 25 yards. The right hand 3 are from my 10/22 with a Green Mountain barrel and a Vortex 4X scope. The bottom target was before adjusting the scope a little up. The left had 3 are from my M&P 15-22 with a Sightron 3-9 scope set at 4X. I don't know what caused the flyer on the lower left target. I do get them from time to time with any bulk ammunition. There are 10 rounds in all but the left upper two targets. The ammunition is Federal 525 pact copper plated hollow point. Both were rested on a sand bag. I love the M&P 15-22 for jack rabbits.
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Here's some recent shots at 25 yards. The right hand 3 are from my 10/22 with a Green Mountain barrel and a Vortex 4X scope. The bottom target was before adjusting the scope a little up. The left had 3 are from my M&P 15-22 with a Sightron 3-9 scope set at 4X. I don't know what caused the flyer on the lower left target. I do get them from time to time with any bulk ammunition. There are 10 rounds in all but the left upper two targets. The ammunition is Federal 525 pact copper plated hollow point. Both were rested on a sand bag. I love the M&P 15-22 for jack rabbits.
nice shootin tex...thats what im talkin bout this will surely make believers out of the nay sayers..
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Curious to see what grouping everyone else is getting feel free to post your shots up the more the merry.
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25 yrds, cheating UTG 4x scope, Federal Bulk Ammo.... I like my grouping

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very nice group mdoffroad would not wanna be on the business end of your barrel
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Let's see some 50-yard 5-shot groups with the bulk ammo.
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Let's see some 50-yard 5-shot groups with the bulk ammo.
ill work on that on saturday when I go to my outdoor range if its not to cold or snowing gonna use bulk, cci mini mag, and subsonics if I can find them
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mine doesn't seem to care what kind of ammo goes through it.



i do want to get a barrel nut wrench to confirm its tight.
but i also didn't get my M&P to bench it. its my AR trainer for "out back" at the range since they don't allow rifle calibers.

this is my 10/22 that sees some bench time. but i also know what ammo it likes


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Now glockeyed's target looks similar to what I get out of my 15-22 as it is no tack driver unless the head of the tack is the size of a hockey puck. Granted the 15-22 is the most cool looking and fun to shoot 22rimfire rifle I own but my Ruger 10-22 is better and my Remington bolt action 541S will shoot better than both of them. The 541S almost seems unfair when it comes to shooting gophers where the 15-22 gives the gophers a real sporting chance. I don't doubt some of the great targets shown here but my 15-22 won't shoot those groups no matter what ammo and I have tried them all. If I bring a box of 50 for the 15-22 I can expect 20 gophers if I bring the 10-22 I can expect 30 gophers if I bring the 541S I can expect 45 gophers.
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Well this was from the first time i took mine to the range...offhand at 25 yds...


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Shooting back in Missouri off my hood...

This here is one of my targets trying out some ammo...you can see there is a big difference between bulk ammo and some of the better stuff at 75 yds.


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Have had the best results with the winchester sub-sonic ammo.

And this is a target a shot at 70 yds testing out the CCI Stingers i have... They are old so that may be it, but that is a bulk ammo 16 shot group and 2 8-shot groups of stinger on the left and bottom left?


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Accurate? My 15-22 is definitely accurate enough for me

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If you want to remove as much of the shooter as possible from your group results, shoot from a mechanical rifle rest. That will show you how accurate your rifle/ammo combination is.
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If you want to remove as much of the shooter as possible from your group results, shoot from a mechanical rifle rest. That will show you how accurate your rifle/ammo combination is.
Yeah I have a lead sled and been meaning to try the .22's put on it...

Honestly I prefer to just shoot off sandbags. With a front and rear bag I can do just as well or close if there's a stable bench to shoot off of...

Been stocking up on different brands of ammo so sometime this week I'll go out and see what I can get for accuracy at 50, 75, and 100 yds...and it is a 300 yd range so if my shooting is on maybe i'll extend the test out a ways
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keep the pics coming lets see who posts the tightest grouping... may well have a poll.
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anybody has more pics please post them
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I was out today, not the best conditions. Temp 34, slight breeze ~8-10mph crosswind. These are from a solid standing rest about 5' high wearing heavy duck hunting jacket, hat and gloves. The front of my gun was resting on a box of Fed 550. The last box of ammo I ran through the gun was American eagle so I knew I would have to adjust my scope.
Bottom left 40yrds scope on 4 power.
Bottom right 40yrds two clicks down one right.
Top right I moved the target in to 30yrds and moved the scope one click down and tuned the scope up to 7.
Top left 30yrds -PRICELESS.
This is an air-gun target and I’m not sure if the spacing between the rings is the same as most targets so I added I dime for reference.
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I was out today, not the best conditions. Temp 34, slight breeze ~8-10mph crosswind. These are from a solid standing rest about 5' high wearing heavy duck hunting jacket, hat and gloves. The front of my gun was resting on a box of Fed 550. The last box of ammo I ran through the gun was American eagle so I knew I would have to adjust my scope.
Bottom left 40yrds scope on 4 power.
Bottom right 40yrds two clicks down one right.
Top right I moved the target in to 30yrds and moved the scope one click down and tuned the scope up to 7.
Top left 30yrds -PRICELESS.
This is an air-gun target and I’m not sure if the spacing between the rings is the same as most targets so I added I dime for reference.
I went out saturday myself it was cold windy my shots were all over the place so i froze my brass casings after firing two mags had to call it quits will go to the indoor range this sat and see how i fair hopfully repeat what i did on my last six targets... happy shooting and thanx for the post
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Bullseye handgun shooting is done at 25 and 50yds with one hand standing. The 10 rings are 1.5" and 3.3" respectively. Top scores are 90 of 100 pts. Shot with .22's.
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lets see some more pics im sure someone wants to post some bragging rights......lol
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Darn it! I guess I'll just have to go shooting again tomorrow. Apparently most just buy the guns and accessories and never shoot.
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20 or so Yrds with red dot using gear bag as a rest today. It will do better shooting slower. I was shooting pretty fast that time
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20 or so Yrds with red dot using gear bag as a rest today. It will do better shooting slower. I was shooting pretty fast that time
Good shootin i would not want ta be on the business end of that deal. Make that x affraid of being on the target.
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Pics of the twins
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Hopefully soon ill have twins too lol
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I've never stretched the legs of any of my 22LR's...so today, I went to the 100yd range and tried my luck.

The 15-22 did great, IMO. Used a cheap-o bipod on a sling-stud / picatinny rail adapter.

Started at 50 yards...shot slow with the iron sights, and pretty fast with the Bushnell "T-dot" sight:

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(I think that was ~60rds on each target...might have been 50 on one, and 75 on the other)

Then moved over a few spots to a 100 yard target (and took off the front iron sight, so it wasn't in the way of the dot):

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I think I've read that the bullet drop is around 6" at 100yds, so i just aimed at the very top-center of the target...and ran through another 100 rounds:

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I'm impressed with this rifle!!!

I don't consider myself a marksman, and I wasn't looking for every-hole-touching...but I was still amazed that almost every round at 100yds hit the target!!!

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^^^ Oh, and one of the rifle (along with my father-in-laws Marlin 39A) -->

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15 yards, standing, cheap BSA red dot, I can't seem to get it dialed in, I was aiming at the 6" bullseye about 6" below this group. The group was a full 25 round clip, Blazer bulk ammo, rapid fire.
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This is my best so far. 2 Mags (50 rounds) CCI Tactical AR 375 pack.
30 yards. Indoors. Slow firing. 3x42 NcStar scope. BiPod on front. No sand bags on the back.

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Nice shots guys keep the pics coming make that x affraid of being on the target........
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Point to point on the star is 1.5".

I have a 10-22 with a fluted Green Mountain barrel and a 30 year old Tasco 6-18 scope.

This was part of a political sign that Charlie has a lot of after loosing a run for state senate.

The 10 shot group was fired at 100 yds.



The additional dents are the result of my puppy thinking that my target was a chew toy.
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