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Old 05-27-2021, 03:36 PM
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Getting ready to get a new 22LR and I came across a BNIB M&P 15 22LR. I am a big Ruger fan but I have many S&Ws. I love the way my family members M&P shoots.
*What are your thoughts on the reliability and dependability of this offer from S&W for a rimfire?
*Going to use it for fun, plinking, family range day and some training.
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I have one I just picked up a few weeks ago. While it rattles and feels a little toy like compared to a .223/5.56 AR platform, it is a lot of fun to shoot cheaply. Lot's of fun! Living in VT, I'm limited to 10 round mags (which are virtually impossible to source right now) and with my stock of .22 LR I can pretty much load an entire mag for slightly less than the cost of a single round of 5.56 at today's prices. Clean it often, as you'll find it will need it!
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I have one I just picked up a few weeks ago. While it rattles and feels a little toy like compared to a .223/5.56 AR platform, it is a lot of fun to shoot cheaply. Lot's of fun! Living in VT, I'm limited to 10 round mags (which are virtually impossible to source right now) and with my stock of .22 LR I can pretty much load an entire mag for slightly less than the cost of a single round of 5.56 at today's prices. Clean it often, as you'll find it will need it!
I will second everything said here (except for the part about the 10-round mags!). I purchased one this past year and it's pretty much the only thing I've been shooting so long as the ammo prices have been as high as they have been.

It is fun, it is easy to shoot, and it is easy to shoot well. Yes it is light, but with 22LR you don't need a lot of weight. And it is as close to an AR-pattern rifle as you can get - there is nothing fake on it to make it "look like" an AR. Everything functions (manual of arms) the same as it's big brother. You can even drop an aftermarket AR trigger into it.

Yes, the Ruger 10-22 family is very nice also but if you want an AR-pattern rifle in 22LR that is not a conversion then the M&P15-22 is definitely the way to go.
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Great, fun little .22! I've had mine for about 2 years now and have had exactly ZERO problems with it regardless of what ammo I run through it. CCI, Win, Fed, Rem, SK, Wolf, HP, RN, HV, SV, it doesn't matter. It eats everything without a hitch. It's no 'target' rifle, but loads of fun to shoot! Get it, you'll like it.

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Buy it. A good friend at work has one, and he loves it. He also has a M&P15 223, but the 15-22 gets the bulk of his shooting.
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I’ve got a couple of them, only .22LR AR I ever considered and I have not been disappointed. Very good rifle.
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I consider myself a mediocre shooter. Having said that, I had my 15-22 rifle and pistol at a friend’s new range the other day. For the first time, I tried shooting out to 100 yards (pistol has a Romeo5 while the rifle came from the factory with a cheap, unbranded red dot). They both made me appear as if I actually know how to shoot.

I don’t have any guns I enjoy shooting more than these two.
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Getting ready to get a new 22LR and I came across a BNIB M&P 15 22LR. I am a big Ruger fan but I have many S&Ws. I love the way my family members M&P shoots.
*What are your thoughts on the reliability and dependability of this offer from S&W for a rimfire?
*Going to use it for fun, plinking, family range day and some training.
The answer is obvious if you spend a few seconds here and elsewhere.
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Thanks for the replies. I will update the status as time allows. Looks like I will take the plunge.
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I have two M&P15-22s.

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They're both extremely reliable, and most important, about as much fun as you can have with a rimfire rifle.
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Come on in, the water's fine......... I've got two 15-22's. A rifle that I've had for years and a pistol I picked up earlier this year. Both are super reliable and great fun to shoot.
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Don't hesitate, will be one of your better purchases. Bought one for my wife back in Sep 2012, she calls it her "Zapper". She just zapped a Gray Fox with it last weekend, had a still live woodchuck in it's mouth. She protects all our critters with it. I put a Nikon 4x12 scope on it for her, some JP springs for lighter pull, she won't let me near it.
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I bought mine in 2014. Liked them the first time I saw in the gun store. Never a problem. The early ones had rails and the metal sights that could be removed (not the magpul ones) and not the newer rail systems. I put some surplus knights armament handguards on it. A Nikon P-22 scope sighted in at 50 yards. Also bought an inexpensive bi-pod. The short ten round magazines work best when shooting from a bench with the bi-pod. I was able to pick up a couple of the short magazines years ago when you could find them. Rarely use the two 25 round magazines. Also have a Strike-Fire II red/green dot I put on it sometimes.

With the Nikon scope it is just as accurate as the old school Remington 572 Fieldmaster (in picture). And almost as accurate my 1958 Marlin Golden 39A. More accurate than I can shoot probably. The target in picture was at fifty yards.

Lots of fun at the range.
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The ejector can become bent, which will cause casings to stovepipe. The good news is that it’s a simple matter to bend it back. Also, don’t expect it to work very well with spinning metal targets unless you hit the target as far away from the axis of rotation as possible, due to the low mass and relatively low velocity. It forces you to concentrate on pinpoint aiming, which is actually a good thing.
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I only wish they made them thirty years ago, would have been really nice to teach my girls (now Army veterans) to shoot with them (upgrading from their single shot .22’s).
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I was also looking for a 15-22 until I came across the Walther Hammerli TAC R-1. IMO it has plusses over the M&P (Aluminum upper and lower, full length hand guard, and it feels "solid-er" than the 15-22) but it also has it's minuses (standard 10 round mag, can't change the trigger group, and higher advertised 6-9lb trigger pull).
I have about 250 rounds through mine so far with no malfunctions with all kinds of 22 ammo and the trigger is about 6 lbs but is crisp with a good reset. I mounted a TRS-25 3 MOA red dot, sighted in at 25 yards, and when I have a good shooting day can easily shoot 1" groups with it. I'm sure with a good scope and quality target ammo I could do half of that.

Sorry about the pics, for some reason they always end up sideways.
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Getting ready to get a new 22LR and I came across a BNIB M&P 15 22LR. I am a big Ruger fan but I have many S&Ws. I love the way my family members M&P shoots.
*What are your thoughts on the reliability and dependability of this offer from S&W for a rimfire?
*Going to use it for fun, plinking, family range day and some training.
I've owned one for the last 6 years or so and just acquired a second one. I USED to be a dedicated Ruger fan as most tend to be, but the M&P 15-22 made me a convert!

Yes the rifle is made from some form of "plastic" but it's a d*** durable plastic whatEVER it is! The rifle is light-weight and uses the same FCG parts as a full-size. It uses a proprietary version of the now-classic .22 conversion bolt, though of course it has a dedicated .22LR barrel. S&W mags are extremely well-built - better I would say than Ruger's BX25 mags.

The M&P 15-22 comes with a picatinny rail up top and the newer model has the "slimline" rail with just the top rail. This means iron sights, red dot sights, scopes...all mount using the same hardware as an AR-15.

Over the years of shooting, my M&P 15-22 has never malfunctioned - never. That's saying a lot about a .22LR!
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I was also looking for a 15-22 until I came across the Walther Hammerli TAC R-1. IMO it has plusses over the M&P (Aluminum upper and lower, full length hand guard, and it feels "solid-er" than the 15-22) but it also has it's minuses (standard 10 round mag, can't change the trigger group, and higher advertised 6-9lb trigger pull).
I have about 250 rounds through mine so far with no malfunctions with all kinds of 22 ammo and the trigger is about 6 lbs but is crisp with a good reset. I mounted a TRS-25 3 MOA red dot, sighted in at 25 yards, and when I have a good shooting day can easily shoot 1" groups with it. I'm sure with a good scope and quality target ammo I could do half of that.

Sorry about the pics, for some reason they always end up sideways.
When I first saw the Walther's price I was about a nanosecond away from hitting the buy button, but then I did some research. The Hammerli makes use of sub-frames with a proprietary trigger group very similar to the GSG series which I own. While not "bad" it is a different system.

The S&W uses standard AR-15 FCG parts.
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I've got the rifle and the newly released pistol. They use the same magazines. Both are very fun to shoot. Enjoy . . .
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When I first saw the Walther's price I was about a nanosecond away from hitting the buy button, but then I did some research. The Hammerli makes use of sub-frames with a proprietary trigger group very similar to the GSG series which I own. While not "bad" it is a different system.

The S&W uses standard AR-15 FCG parts.
I will agree that the S&W trigger group has it's advantages over the Hammerli but for my use the Hammerli works for me. The only issue I see I have to work around is proper cleaning since the trigger group can't be removed. I hope giving it a good shot of Hoppe's Spray and Lube will be enough.
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Great rifles, operate exactly like a "Real AR" and thus, they make GREAT training rifles, the only down side, you will go though a ton of ammunition, especially if you have grand-kids.....
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Anybody that shoots AR and doesn't have a 15-22 is missing out.

Just as anybody who shoots Glock and doesn't have a G44 is missing out.
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I haven’t had the pleasure (yet) of taking my grandchildren shooting but I sure miss those trips to the Range with my daughters. I just don’t make it to the Range very often now that they’re grown and gone.
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