help!! grip scew threads

jsha22lr · #1 05-05-2012, 11:05 PM

so i was swapping out my moe grip for the slidfire solutions block when i noticed that there is some play in the grip. well i didnt thing any thing of it until i swapped it back over and now there is considerable play of at least a few mm in the grip. when i tighten the grip screw it goes in but more easily that i feel comfortable with. i think the threads for the screw are stipped out or something. has anybody esle had/have this problem? is there any possilbe way to fix it?

Basic · #2 05-05-2012, 11:45 PM

Grips off, attempt to thread bolt into hole. only a few turns in, do not try to bottom out. If the bolt threads easly and has no MAJOR play (with bolt only a few turns in, it will wiggle) I think you should be fine

I gotta say this, IMHO, dont waste the cash!
Those bump fire, cost the same as the 15-22, buttstocks on springs.... Yeah, those things are just not ment for a .22 rimfire. Heck the AR boards are FULL of members selling these things because they dont like them.

Basic · #3 05-05-2012, 11:46 PM

try it and tell me.

Please

Basic · #4 05-05-2012, 11:48 PM

Watching tonights UFC on DVR. Ill check back

Basic · #5 05-06-2012, 12:53 AM

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Allen 1 · #6 05-06-2012, 08:37 AM

If you indeed did strip the threads you have a couple options.

The best fix is to use this product .emhart.com/brands/heli-coil
This will give you a permanent professional repair.

Second option is to use JB Weld.
Mix the weld as directed and fill the cavity then apply some "release agent" to the screw. I use paste wax.

Insert the screw into the damaged threads and let it harden. You will now have threads. I've seen headbolt threads on an engine repaired this way and torqued to 70 ft # and they held remarkably well.

Good luck.

Majorlk · #7 05-06-2012, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Basic

I gotta say this, IMHO, dont waste the cash!
Those bump fire, cost the same as the 15-22, buttstocks on springs.... Yeah, those things are just not ment for a .22 rimfire. Heck the AR boards are FULL of members selling these things because they dont like them.

I'm happy to see that I am not the only one who feels this way. I have wondered how S&W feels about them, considering the accelerated wear on the action they cause.

jsha22lr · #8 05-06-2012, 01:57 PM

Alien, if I do the Jb weld, will I still be able to switch between the moe grip and the slide fire? I use them both pretty regularly, when I go to the indoor range(no autos allowed) and the country(that's when the slide fire comes in handy).

Basic, just where exactly have you seem people trying to sell them? There is a thread on here about the slide fire, but so far I have not seen anybody trying to sell thiers. In fact the people I have talked to don't want to sell them. If they accelerate wear, then one must acknowledge the fact that the wear was going to come eventually anyways, slide fire or no slide fire. If the thing is going to wear out, then I'm going to have fun doing it.

Basic · #9 05-06-2012, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by jsha22lr

Alien, if I do the Jb weld, will I still be able to switch between the moe grip and the slide fire? I use them both pretty regularly, when I go to the indoor range(no autos allowed) and the country(that's when the slide fire comes in handy).

Basic, just where exactly have you seem people trying to sell them? There is a thread on here about the slide fire, but so far I have not seen anybody trying to sell thiers. In fact the people I have talked to don't want to sell them. If they accelerate wear, then one must acknowledge the fact that the wear was going to come eventually anyways, slide fire or no slide fire. If the thing is going to wear out, then I'm going to have fun doing it.

Dont get tiffy.. Truth is they are not made for the 15-22. Have your fun, its ok.

1. Yes, you must use anti-seize
I personaly would have a shop heli-coil it (and keep the paperwork/receipt)

2. Not here. There are some very large forums dedicated to the AR platform. Im not going to advertize for other forums & vendors. Im a member of the big one just to buy up the "ar accessories" that are not high dollar enough for those with a TROY tattoo on their hip. Try Google.

jsha22lr · #10 05-07-2012, 12:19 AM

Sorry basic, didn't mean to come across as sounding rude! I just so far haven't seen somebody listing to sell there on the big forum, if the one I'm thinking of is the one your talking of! Haha internet makes thing sound rude when it's really not ment to be, right? Any ways back to the topic at hand, will this helicoil fix it? Will it be a long term solution or just a quick fix?

Basic · #11 05-07-2012, 01:48 PM

JBweld is a band-aid ! Nothing more than a gray colored two pary epoxy (glue).

Heli is a true fix. Have a gun shop do it IMO

Are you sure you have thread issues?

stavman11 · #12 05-07-2012, 03:54 PM

LOVE my Slide Fire........

My 15-22 is the FUNNEST TOY I own..... yes I got the Slide Fire as a Toy.... for My Toy.....LOL

My opinion only.... Not trying to ambush the thread... was curious on the Bolt Stripping since mine seemed a little TIGHT last time I removed it but seems Perfect still...

LOVE my 15-22........ and good luck on yer Grip Screw bud

Stav

Rundover · #13 05-08-2012, 09:46 PM

Another alternative is a nutsert. This is a nut that when tightened the first time will expand and lock itself in place providing you with a steel nut which would be stronger than he plastic. You would need to bore the hole out a little from the action side and insert it from there. Hmmmm, I might just do this next time my grip is off.

jsha22lr · #14 05-09-2012, 09:08 PM

yep i'm definitly having thread problems!! i was cleaning the rifle, when i held the lower by the grip and tilted it upwards to see if there was anything in the trigger, the grip actually came out some to the point where im seeing the springs that hold the saftey and the dissassembly pin. definatly not going out till it gets fixed proffessionally! anybody have a link to the helicoil thing that way i can show my gunsmith what its is that would work? should i give S&W a call too while im at it?

jsha22lr · #15 05-09-2012, 09:11 PM

how exactly does the heli coil work any ways?

team sidewinder · #16 05-09-2012, 09:51 PM

Well you pretty much drill the orginal hole out larger and then use the tap that comes with the heli-coil to tap new threads in the larger hole. Then you install the heli-coil into those threads which brings the hole with the heli-coil installed back to a new hole with heli-coil threads be it standard or metric which ever heli-coil you go with. They always have instructions and all the tools in the kits.

Hope I made it clear as I have done lots of heli-coils and it is really a simple task. BUT you are working with a much smaller hole than I usually use heli-coils on but you can do it.

jsha22lr · #17 05-13-2012, 01:40 PM

okay so i talked to my gun smith and he siad it should be a simple fix. but im using a jard 3lb trigger and it has this screw that pushes up on it so it will catch on the disconector or what ever its called. should i remove it and then put the heli coil in or just leave it in?

Doug B · #18 05-15-2012, 08:55 PM

Helicoil repair of threads is a very common repair. It is not very difficult to do, and most hardware stores sell the repair kits. We repair equipment that flies on aircraft from time to time with helicoils. Any machine shop in town should be able to do it for you, if u are leary. We typically repair threads as small as 4-40 and occasionally as large as 1/4-20. Personally, I like Keenserts better though.