Spike's CAR-1 Without Crush Washer?

[ECLIPZD95]

Anybody with a CAR-1 experience any loosening issues when installed without the crush washer?

[Gopher Slayer]

Yep. I had it just tight enough to get the lettering to line up. It was perfect. Then I shot a magazine through her and it would spin almost an extra 1/4 turn (unlike materials and vibrations??). It's kind of difficult to find a washer that will fit over the threads, inside the shroud, and only take away a 1/4 turn. I didn't want it any thicker because it made the "can" stick out a little further and I'm a picky ***. I ended up making one out of some rubber like material I found out in the garage.

As I was posting this, I found something. Too bad I didn't see these last time I ordered.
Muzzle Device - Alignment Set (1/2x28) [SAF0001] - $3.95 : Spikes Tactical

[BillyJack2012]

Great advice. Thanks for the thread. I'll be heading over to Spike's to pick the can and alignment set on Thursday!

[Incredible Me]

Offtopic question:

Will this one fit?

Muzzle Device - SEI Vortex Flash Hider (6.8) [SAFH6SV] - $87.00 : Spikes Tactical

Love the looks of the 4-prong.

[Gopher Slayer]

Originally Posted by Incredible Me

Offtopic question:

Will this one fit?

Muzzle Device - SEI Vortex Flash Hider (6.8) [SAFH6SV] - $87.00 : Spikes Tactical

Love the looks of the 4-prong.

Nope, that one is for 5/8x24 threads. The one below it says it's for a 5.56, but doesn't give a thread size. I assume it's for 1/2x28, but would call or email before you buy.

In other words, the device you buy needs to have 1/2x28" threading.

[Incredible Me]

ok thanks!

[ECLIPZD95]

Gopher - Thanks for the info. Just ordered a CAR-1 and alignment set. Hopefully the shroud will still lie inside the guard rail.

[Gopher Slayer]

Originally Posted by ECLIPZD95

Gopher - Thanks for the info. Just ordered a CAR-1 and alignment set. Hopefully the shroud will still lie inside the guard rail.

It should, but keep us updated. I'll wait to order mine until then.

[Justin Ellis]

So is the consensus that this washer set will work better than the crush washer? When I use the crush washer the engraving lines up poorly.

[Gopher Slayer]

Originally Posted by Justin Ellis

So is the consensus that this washer set will work better than the crush washer? When I use the crush washer the engraving lines up poorly.

I've never put mine on with a crush washer. I wanted it to be recessed inside the handguard. It lined up perfectly without any washer, but not after the first few shots. The washers I posted from Spikes should allow you to choose what works. I'm sure with the right combination you can get it to line up perfectly, stay tight, and still have it recess. If you want to use them in addition to the crush washer(behind), that would work also(in theory).

Stay tuned

[ECLIPZD95]

Just installed my CAR-1 and I needed to use 4 of the 45 degree washers from the alignment kit to get the engraving to line up. With the 4 washers the shroud is still recessed inside the handrail, but barely...probably 1/8th of an inch at most. However, the end of the barrel is now also recessed into the shroud by that same amount with one line of thread showing.

[Gopher Slayer]

Originally Posted by ECLIPZD95

Just installed my CAR-1 and I needed to use 4 of the 45 degree washers from the alignment kit to get the engraving to line up. With the 4 washers the shroud is still recessed inside the handrail, but barely...probably 1/8th of an inch at most. However, the end of the barrel is now also recessed into the shroud by that same amount with one line of thread from showing.

Good info. Thanks.

[tommyb9999]

Originally Posted by ECLIPZD95

Just installed my CAR-1 and I needed to use 4 of the 45 degree washers from the alignment kit to get the engraving to line up. With the 4 washers the shroud is still recessed inside the handrail, but barely...probably 1/8th of an inch at most. However, the end of the barrel is now also recessed into the shroud by that same amount with one line of thread showing.

thanks for the info ECLIPZD95! I picked up a CAR-1 w/ the alignment kit from Spike's yesterday afternoon. I used the 4 washers as you suggested; made for an easy install

[Yuba]

Got any pictures? Gopher I have seen your sweet 15-22 many times.

Thanks
Yuba