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Old 09-05-2012, 09:21 PM
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Check your ejector bar. I know it works, but it may not work well enough.
Never had an issue with ejection using the factory smith mags. I have however not ruled out the ejector. Looking at it, it looks fine. Rides close to the bolt and has a good hook on the end. Kind of hard to ask Smith and Wesson to look at it when it only malfunctions with an aftermarket magazine.

Besides ejector would not explain why it will not even pick and chamber a fresh round either manually cycling or while firing. The bolt just skips over the round.
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Won't "even pick and chamber a fresh round" is pretty telling.
It looks like the edge of the rim is lower in the PT than in the factory.
Could you post a pic with a ruler?
It also looks like the angle of "attack" is different between the two.
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I wonder if the cut in the magazine that engages the magazine latch is slightly off, allowing the magazine to sit fractionally lower in the mag well?
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I had hoped these mags would be a little cheaper.... for the price of one magazine and the (not included) load assist, I could buy two S&W 25-round mags and a mag coupler kit. I would then have 50 rounds and at the same time not have a foot of magazine sticking out of the bottom of my rifle - plus the warm feeling of the stock mag's reliability.

I had higher hopes for the 35-rounder but price, the additional cost of load assist, and relatively untested reliability really killed this for me. Make it under $25 for the mag and load assist included and you'll regain my attention.
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I haven't really had a good chance to try my Plinker mag out, but I have put three full mags through my gun. The first mag shot fine but failed to keep the bolt open on the last round. The second mag had a stove pipe on the last round. And the third full mag failed to keep the bolt open after the last round. For the price its not worth the mag. I will not buy anymore unless the price is around 15-20 and they work as intended.
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Plinker Tactical sent me a free magazine in response to some comments I shared with them about their charging handle. Working with it this evening was "interesting".

- loading it without the loading tool is both slow and difficult. Loading ruger rotary magazines are a snap, by comparison. I gave up trying after 20 rounds. Personally, the loading tool is an absolute necessity and should come with the magazine.

- I have two 15-22s and it will not go past the mag latch on either one without some effort and wiggling. It does not appear to dimensionally match the S&W magazines.

- The mag is a tight fit in both rifles. In neither rifle does the mag drop from the well. You must pull it from the well, with noticeable effort. Ditto the second sentence above.

I will try to get to the range on Monday, but considering the difficulty of loading, I don't plan on putting a lot of rounds through it.
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I haven't really had a good chance to try my Plinker mag out, but I have put three full mags through my gun. The first mag shot fine but failed to keep the bolt open on the last round. The second mag had a stove pipe on the last round. And the third full mag failed to keep the bolt open after the last round. For the price its not worth the mag. I will not buy anymore unless the price is around 15-20 and they work as intended.
This may or may not be a mag problem. it is a known occasional problem even with S&W magazines. It is related to a too-strong spring in the bolt latch, which is remedied by clipping two turns off the spring.

On the other hand, if you have never had a lock back problem previously, it could be the magazines.

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interesting notes about the plinker 35 round mags, wonder if other owners are having similar issues.
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So far, there have been very few users posting about them, one way or another.
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I finally managed to get 35 rounds in the magazine - it about killed my fingers. I timed it and I can load three S&W magazines in the time it took me to load the one PT magazine.

Unlike the S&W magazines, the follower on the PT is not parallel with the top of the feed lips, but is in a nose-up attitude. Loaded, the rounds are at corresponding attitude. I also noticed that the bolt hold-open projection at the rear of the follower is considerably longer than on the S&W. This may explain the last-round feeding problems others have reported - the follower is impeded from rising all the way, leaving the round loose and mis-aligned.
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I finally managed to get 35 rounds in the magazine - it about killed my fingers. I timed it and I can load three S&W magazines in the time it took me to load the one PT magazine.

Unlike the S&W magazines, the follower on the PT is not parallel with the top of the feed lips, but is in a nose-up attitude. Loaded, the rounds are at corresponding attitude. I also noticed that the bolt hold-open projection at the rear of the follower is considerably longer than on the S&W. This may explain the last-round feeding problems others have reported - the follower is impeded from rising all the way, leaving the round loose and mis-aligned.
Sorry you had to go through all that hassle. Sounds like the engineers did not consider the problems with loading or maybe they were in a hurry to sell the mag without much testing. Just my opinion
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Old 09-29-2012, 12:16 PM
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Sorry you had to go through all that hassle. Sounds like the engineers did not consider the problems with loading or maybe they were in a hurry to sell the mag without much testing. Just my opinion
I agree with you. I can understand not wanting a cut in the sidewall of the magazine for a loading button, but they should then include the loading tool, not make it an $8 option. It will be interesting to see if I have the same problems with feeding that others have reported.

From what I have seen and read so far, it is over-priced and under-developed.

I've already disagreed with PT over the dimensional differences and fit between their charging handle and the S&W original, so I don't imagine they'll be all that thrilled with my comments about the magazine.
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Well lets hope they are listening to the reviews and make some needed changes
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Well lets hope they are listening to the reviews and make some needed changes
I am not aware that PT has a presence here. I've never seen anything posted from them.They may "read the mail" though.

I really hope they can make a good, functioning product. There are several shooters here that shoot competitions requiring more than 25 rounds. The magazine would eliminate a mag change during shooting.
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Rainy days and other things kept me away from the range until today. The results with the PT magazine were pretty ugly.

I used it in two different 15-22s and the results were the same: stovepipes and failures to feed on every other shot. In every FTF, the nose of the round was cocked up and the bolt rode over top of it. This tells me (1) the magazine does not seat with the feed lips at the proper height in the mag well and (2) the angle of the follower is wrong.

I put 20 rounds through one gun and 15 through the other. I wasn't about to go through the finger agony of reloading the mag for more shots.

I'm glad it was a freebee from PT, because I would be really upset if I paid money for it.

If anyone wants it, the first one to PM me with an address gets it.

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i dont even want it free - its too long and then my round count will get thrown off.
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i dont even want it free - its too long and then my round count will get thrown off.
My thoughts exactly. I think it was Photoracer who said he liked the capacity for some of his matches, but I don't know if he ever tried it.

I don't know if my sample is a fluke or if it is representative of all production. I have a hard time believing that much beta testing was done before they were released. I'm not going to bother with a report to them on the magazine.

Drums don't do anything for me, but if someone develops a reasonably priced 50-round double stack mag for the 15-22, I would be interested.

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Drums don't do anything for me, but if someone develops a reasonably priced 50-round double stack mag for the 15-22, I would be interested.
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The magazine is spoken for.
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i bought several of the plinkers, everyone of them has been sent back, they are absolute junk!! jam city;;;stick with s&w 25 rounders, got to lambos armory site,awesome prices!!!
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i bought several of the plinkers, everyone of them has been sent back, they are absolute junk!! jam city;;;stick with s&w 25 rounders, got to lambos armory site,awesome prices!!!
It really makes me wonder about both their product design and their field testing. I have mixed emotions about their charging handle, even though I have kept it and use it.
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I finally had a chance to use the 35 magazine this weekend. There was only one issue I had that I was able to deal with. If the bolt was open when the magazine was inserted, the magazine functioned flawlessly. If the bolt was closed, the magazine would not seat properly and would fail to load any and every round. I was using the Winchester M-22 and the CCI Blazer ammunition.

One of the things I noticed was that the spring was not responding properly when the 34th and 35th rounds were loaded in the mag, even with the load assist tool. This did not stop the magazine from feeding when in the firearm but it may be something that other buyers were having problems with their issues.

I was able to rapid fire as fast as I could and the magazine function the way the stock S&W mags do.
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A little off topic, but I have been using 2 of the promag 32 round magazines for a while now. They perform flawlessly. You just have to pay attention while loading them. But they perform as well as the 5 S&W mags I have. Just FYI.
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I finally had a chance to use the 35 magazine this weekend. There was only one issue I had that I was able to deal with. If the bolt was open when the magazine was inserted, the magazine functioned flawlessly. If the bolt was closed, the magazine would not seat properly and would fail to load any and every round. I was using the Winchester M-22 and the CCI Blazer ammunition.

One of the things I noticed was that the spring was not responding properly when the 34th and 35th rounds were loaded in the mag, even with the load assist tool. This did not stop the magazine from feeding when in the firearm but it may be something that other buyers were having problems with their issues.

I was able to rapid fire as fast as I could and the magazine function the way the stock S&W mags do.
Congratulations. You are one of the very few who have reported that the magazine was usable.
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Congratulations. You are one of the very few who have reported that the magazine was usable.
Lol. Yeah.
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I grabbed 2 of these from Midway for my new 15-22 and so far in ~20 attempts between them have had 1 round successfully fed. All the rest have wound up chomped between the bolt and the breech right at the end of the casing. Had tried just loading 30 rounds in one of the mags w/ the same results. This is all hand loading BTW.

So far I have tried w/ Aguila Super Extra, CCI Tactical, and Mini Mags. I've had zero FTFs/FTEs in >500 rounds when sticking w/ the S&W 10 & 25 round mags using the same ammo.

Based on my personal experience at this point I would advise against buying these. I'm hoping that Midway will let me RMA mine and exchange them for more S&W magazines.

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I grabbed 2 of these from Midway for my new 15-22 and so far in ~20 attempts between them have had 1 round successfully fed. All the rest have wound up chomped between the bolt and the breech right at the end of the casing. Had tried just loading 30 rounds in one of the mags w/ the same results. This is all hand loading BTW.

So far I have tried w/ Aguila Super Extra, CCI Tactical, and Mini Mags. I've had zero FTFs/FTEs in >500 rounds when sticking w/ the S&W 10 & 25 round mags using the same ammo.

Based on my personal experience at this point I would advise against buying these. I'm hoping that Midway will let me RMA mine and exchange them for more S&W magazines.
My experience, as well. PT sent me a freebee a few months back (another story) and it was a disaster. They just sent me another to try, but I haven't had time to do so. PLEASE WRITE THESE PEOPLE AND TELL THEM YOUR EXPERIENCE - THEY DON'T BELIEVE ME.

According to them, they have sold hundreds and have had no complaints.
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I'll be sure to do that Major. I've actually got pics of a few of the mangled rounds and was considering making a short video but figured that would maybe look like I've got too much free time on my hands

I think I'm going to stick w/ the S&W mags until Doomsday has his available for purchase.
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Ha.....You will spend more time loading than shooting

I have 4 30 round mags for my Colt C 4.....Have thought about paying a kid to be my designated loader.
I have this deal with my grandson; if he loads - he shoots. Problem is he's trying to negotiate the deal up from the 15-22 to my 1911's! And after Christmas he'll be busy with the magazines for his Sig 1911-22 so maybe I'll have to train the Labrador to do the job (he doesn't shoot, just fetches).
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Here's the pic of the chewed up rounds from my first attempt at using these mags in case it's useful to someone:
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My thoughts exactly. I think it was Photoracer who said he liked the capacity for some of his matches, but I don't know if he ever tried it.

I don't know if my sample is a fluke or if it is representative of all production. I have a hard time believing that much beta testing was done before they were released. I'm not going to bother with a report to them on the magazine.

Drums don't do anything for me, but if someone develops a reasonably priced 50-round double stack mag for the 15-22, I would be interested.
I have the 2 Promags now but have not had the chance to use them as yet. Hope to use them in my club's Jan. Speed Steel event. I have used them at the range once and they seemed to work OK. I think the round angle of the follower is slightly different than the S&W but I am not sure it makes any difference. Time will tell when I have to shoot very fast.
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I am new around here but not to the planet. Been here a WHILE. I've shot just about everything that will fling lead down range at one time or another.
Bought myself a 15-22 and I have found my love in firearms. Also have an AR-15 223 that Holds almost the same high place in my repertoire.
My M&P sports five 25 round mags, all S&W mags and feeds and ejects perfectly. Fired 250 rounds through it last Wednesday and my buddy popped off a couple of magazines as well, not the first problem.
These 35 round magazines look to me like a project that needs more fine tuning and R&D.
I also looked at the loading tools on the market and after about two minutes came up with a much simpler, cheaper, easier way to load my 25 round magazines. I pull the orange tab on the follower down far enough to stick a piece of carbon fiber tube through the slot in the sides of the magazine and insert the tube all the way through so it protrudes from both sides. Load three rounds in the magazine and then hook two fingers over the tube on each side of the magazine. While pulling down on the tube insert more rounds. You will only be able to get 24 rounds in so just pull the tube out of the magazine and load the last(25th) round manually. No tired or sore fingers.
If you don't have any carbon fiber tube you can substitute copper, brass, aluminum tubing, a wooden dowel, a small screwdriver or most anything that is strong enough to resist breaking. I just loaded all five of my magazines with just the C.F. tube and my fingers with no soreness, cramps, or distress to my hands. If you want a difficult job done give it to a lazy man, he will find an easy and cheap way to accomplish it.

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Old 01-08-2013, 05:41 PM
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so what's the verdict on these mags? hard finding anything else these days... just ordered 4 of them. probably should have read the threads first. Got so excited that I found mags that I bought first.
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so what's the verdict on these mags? hard finding anything else these days... just ordered 4 of them. probably should have read the threads first. Got so excited that I found mags that I bought first.
Have you read this thread in its entirety? That should answer your question. Also read this thread:

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I own 5 factory 25 rounders and 4 Pro Mag 32 rounders.

I have one factory mag that has had the mag body itself warp so bad that the load assist button will bind up and it will not properly stagger rounds no matter how much care I take in loading it, I have retired it from service.

All four Pro Mags have functioned FLAWLESSLY for me. I regard them as good as factory mags, and I got them for 12.99 each, so I am quite happy with them.

I am looking forward to seeing how well Doomsday's mags are going to work out, I'll be picking some up later.
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Just got two of these in the mail today, ordered them before I found the two threads about them. Hopefully I ended up getting ones that actually work.
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In a rush to find a few magazines before new rules were forced upon the law abiding citizens of this great nation, I bought two PT 35 rounders.

It will not feed the first round into the chamber. Very disappointed, hope this update will prevent future purchases and wasting of valuable time and resources to other forum members.

Also, I was unable to get more than 15-20 shells without the load assist. So if you decide to give these a try, buy one, you'll be glad you did.


I've emailed PT and will let you know their response.

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I would love to have a 20 round mag let alone 35.
new york just passed a gun bill last night.you can only have 10 round mags and can only load 7 bullets per mag.more than 7 rounds is a felony.
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In a rush to find a few magazines before new rules were forced upon the law abiding citizens of this great nation, I bought two PT 35 rounders.

It will not feed the first round into the chamber. Very disappointed, hope this update will prevent future purchases and wasting of valuable time and resources to other forum members.

Also, I was unable to get more than 15-20 shells without the load assist. So if you decide to give these a try, buy one, you'll be glad you did.


I've emailed PT and will let you know their response.

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Just another disappointed customer. PT will tell you that you are the only one this happens to and they have sold hundreds that are working fine. Both statements are suspect.
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Just another disappointed customer. PT will tell you that you are the only one this happens to and they have sold hundreds that are working fine. Both statements are suspect.
I have two that work just fine.
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I have two that work just fine.
You are in the minority. I'm glad they work for you. Not all buyers have been so fortunate, based on other reports here.

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That takes care of that. Thanks for the info guys.
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**** I just bought 3 of these today
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Good luck with them.
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By the way anyone want to sell me another Plinker Tactical load assist tool. I wouldn't mind have another around, pm me thanks, MJ
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Where? Tough to come by
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Still no reply from PT about a refund or exchange on my defective mag.

Great customer service .... pffft.
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A local gun shop they has 12 that morning , I got 3 left 1
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Finally got a good chance to try out the Promag 32s. I pronounce them very good. I found it a little harder against the spring getting those last 7 rounds in the mag, but that is about it. Shot our Jan. Speed Steel event and used just the 2 Promags. Using a 32 allows me to shoot all 5 runs on a stage without using a second mag. The tab for the hold-open is a little closer to the body and once and awhile it does not hold the bolt back, but a minor point. Kicked everyone's a** as usual. Hope I can get a couple more once the madness is over. Ended up selling a couple of my unused S&W 25s to a friend's daughter for her new 15-22 because she could not find a second mag anywhere ($20/each). Still have 7 of those anyway.
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I guess I will have to add my experience with these mags to the list of "DID NOT WORK". The mag wouldn't feed more than 1 shelll at a time after manually pulling the bolt...after about 5 pulls I yanked the mag and gave up....all the rounds were bent and ruined. Something definately not right with these mags. My factory mags were flawless.
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