Anyone have issues with this? I mixed CCI 40grain MM with American Eagle 40grain and had feed issues. The bullet shape is not exactly the same so I am guessing this is the issue?

Most feeding issue come from loading a magazine and rounds not being staggered, or in other words: rounds being stacked one on top of the other.

If you've been loading these for awhile you likely already know what rounds look like from the back of the magazine as it's being loaded, so you should be able to notice when rounds are 'stacked' and when they are 'staggered'. You may also notice how they appear from the side too when they are correctly loaded, one bullet will be pointed of the one side of the mag and the round above and below it should be pointed to the other side of the mag.

ALL of my feeding issues have come from 'stacked' rounds and not 'staggered'....it shouldn't make any difference who made the ammo if it's at least close to the same grain. You should be able to mix 36 grain and 40 grain without any issues, but loading 20 something grain ammo and over 40 grain ammo 'could' possibly cause some difficulty. (DISCLAIMER: I've never tried this so I cannot confirm the accuracy of my last statement )

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I tired this once with an old box of .22lr ammo that my dad gave me. It was mixed with remington hollow points and round nose and had a few federal hollow points in it. I had big time feeding issues. That's the ONLY time I've ever had any problem with my 15-22. I make sure not to mix any ammo anymore with the 15-22. All the rounds were staggered in the mag like they should be. I think it does have something to do with the shape of the round.

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im guessing the different round shapes cause them to not be staggered as neatly.

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My guess is that so little of the bullet actually contacts the neighboring one in the magazine, that it would make no difference. But based on the examples above, it sounds like my guess might be wrong.

I've never mixed ammo in a magazine, as in alternating rounds or inserting them randomly, although I've finished one ammo type and then loaded another in the same mag without a problem, in my 15-22 and handguns.

Thanks for the feedback. The rifle is new but I have put about 600 rounds through it over the last 45 days. Until then no issues with CCI 40grain Min Mag and the American Eagle when use by themselves.

I had been buying small packs of ammo from Walmart. So I had a some of some and some of the other left over so I just put them in on box (around 200) to get rid of them yesterday. That is when I started having issues. I was randomly loading them in the mags.

That mix is gone now and I just purchased some of the American Eagle AE5022 in bulk off of surplussammo's site. I will have to get out this week to do some shooting....with all the same rounds in the Mag.

I did watch one of those video's by the guy does the 15-22 training video's. I pulled those round feed assist lugs out of my Mags to force myself to load them one at a time. It will go slower but they will done right.

Unnecessary. Just follow the instructions in the manual and all will be fine. Pull the button down just enough to load a round and then pull it down a little further for the next round, etc. DO NOT pull it all the way down and dump the rounds in.

8K+ through 16 magazines doing it S&W's way and not a single feed problem.

After the last Tactical .22 match, and a fresh set of blisters, I decided to look for a loading tool.....I found something that should help a lot.

I just ordered some of these for my magazines....they're going to prevent a lot of blisters on my thumbs from pushing down on the mag buttons:

Smith + Wesson M&P15-22 Magazine Loading Tool - Fast!! | eBay

They also have extra button replacements sold separately.

MP15-22 Kit w/ 3 Magazine Loading Assist Buttons. Use for extra magazines | eBay

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If you are getting blisters, you are doing it wrong.

Put the bottom of the magazine on a hard surface and use your thumb and first finger on both sides of the magazine.

8k loaded by hand and not the first blistered or sore finger - and 60 seconds to load a 25-round magazine. (I load 12 25-round and 5 10-rounders at every loading session)

I bought the "tool" you listed and used it twice; more trouble (and slower) then using fingers on buttons. I did replace the buttons on several magazines with the ones that come with the tool, though. Not all that much difference from factory.

I load the way Majorlk does and have never had a feed issue in about 5k rounds.

yup over 4k rounds with just my fingers and the stock mags.

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OK, I just loaded 2 mags to test your method.

How does putting it on a hard surface change the fact that you still need to push down on spring loaded buttons, you still need to push the buttons down with your finger & thumb?

The one thing your method did seem to do well was to make sure the rounds loaded in a 'staggered' manner (so thank you for that little tip). It did nothing to prevent the stress on my thumb (the digit that blistered), I still needed to push down against the spring on a small button.

I also needed to buy one of the magazine loading assist devices for my Ruger MkIII 22/45 LITE because those magazines were doing the same thing. Both mags have small buttons and both have spring pressure, it's hard to get away from that, and I know I'm not the only one complaining about this....otherwise there wouldn't be any devices being made (or sold) out there.

Anyways, thanks for the tip, it did help me with 1 of my 2 issues.

I'll come back and provide an update for the new magazine loading assistant after I try it out for myself. It's got to be better than what I have already.....with any luck at all.

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Just wondering about the possibility of an overly dirty firearm. Maybe it could be the cause?

Well, as you realize, (and assuming the Ruger is similar to a High Standard, Browning Buck Mark or Medalist), loading a .22 pistol, using the strong spring and smaller button on one side only, is one heck of a lot harder on the thumb than the 15-22's magazine is. Loading the 15-22's is like my thumb is on vacation, or something.

But as Majorik says, putting the mag against a flat surface just makes it easier, and as you've found, possibly a bit more accurate (loaded in a better manner, not shooting).

Heck, try loading that 10th round into a S&W M&P 9c, if you want to know what a sore thumb feels like!

Never said it did. What is DOES do if give the magazine a solid base to rest upon while you put your fingers on the TOP of the buttons, not press on it from the side.

If you are getting blisters, you are doing something wrong. It's that simple. Even my 8-year old grandson loads magazines with no problems or blisters.

The Ruger mags have a button only on one side. Any mag made that way is a pain to load - no pun intended. Try loading compact centerfire magazine with no assist of any kind.

Or the last round in a .40S&W compact. That's why I always use a UPlulu loader for all centerfire stuff.

I've never tried it in my 15/22 but in my .22 pistol I can interchange ammunition without issues. I was doing that when I was testing my new can. 2 rounds local standard velocity, two rounds local sub sonic, two rounds Russian sub sonic, two rounds USA sub sonic.

Ran a couple of drills like that listening to the different pitch of shot.

Eventually decided it didn't make a difference

KBK

I have never run into a problem with mixed ammo, but then again, it's been a few years since I used anything for plinking except Federal Champion - I buy it by the case. No partial boxes of multiple brands.

I have different ammo for match use and silhouette shooting that I don't plink with.

I mix ammo with no problems.

I load my mags typically while sitting in an easy chair watching TV.

That would make my belly the "flat" surface.

My "Home Crafted" loader is not pretty, but it works. I roughed out the opening and smoothed it with a soldering tool. Saves the thumb and finger but the price is right.

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Very ingenious!!!

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Not sure if it really applies to a 22lr as it does to other larger caliber guns but mixing ammo. from what I understand is a very bad idea. Reason being if you get a round that malfunctions for various reasons (say a squib) and you fire your next round bulging your barrel, you're going to need lot numbers, dates, etc., to prove your case that it was the ammo's fault and not yours (not saying anyone shooting a round into a squib ISN'T their fault but just loosely using this as one example).

We had a poster a while back who was mixing all his ammo. into a can. From that can he would load his magazines. Sure enough, something went wrong, I can't recall what exactly, and he was basically out of luck because he couldn't prove it was the ammo's fault as he wasn't dead positive on which bullet was the cause.

Food for thought anyways, it reinforced what I have always been taught to never mix ammo, at least not in the same magazine or where I can possibly lose track (say loading 6 magazines a few days before I go shooting).

Hope that helps!

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^i remember that thread in the m&p15 section, it was quite amusing lol.

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od: xd9 3"&4", 15-22, 1911 .22

Do all the time when friends and I are having a shoot day. Never had problems feeding

The big concern for me in mixing ammo is inconsistent performance from shot to shot, not the remote possibility of a problem.

I don't remember the last time I had any sort of problem with factory center-fire ammo.

I've had general probs with Am Eagle in the 15-22 (NONE with my pistols though) ie., FTE, FTF, jams. The 15-22 seems to be content with Aquilla Super Extra HV 40 gr. rounds.

I haven't had many problems with mixing ammo in my mags, just bad rounds that the factories let pass. I regularly mix loads of CCI Mini-Mags and Federals with tracers in a 4/1 ball-to-tracer ratio. It sometimes helps with correcting fire (even with all the lasers and red-dots, you sometimes have to bracket-in a target). And in rapid fire at dusk it brings back memories of mad-minutes along with a whiff of the smell that used to linger after the last gun was silent. I even mixed in some 15-plus year-old CCI and had no FTF's. I think if you don't go for some Slobovian Spam-can junk and spend decent money you shouldn't have any problems IF you keep everything clean! (Another lesson-learned from the olden days).

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I expect a day will come when all ammo is serialized and we have to load our magazines with rounds in sequential serial number order.

That would completely rule out mixing brands....

i want to try out tracers sometime, just have to find the right place.

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