I don't see much on 15-22s being used suppressed. I have two Gemtechs. The G5-22 and Alpine.

What are you brand are you using? ( .22 - Gemtech / 5.56 - Yankee Hill )
Any specific reason you chose the brand? ( price & availability ...AAC out of stock )
Do you run it dry or wet? ( both )
Pics of the setup or videos shooting would be nice to see.


I haven't had a chance to use my G5 yet.
I have put a thin film of grease inside my Alpine, I found its easier to take apart to clean running it this way. Thoughts on using grease?
Add any questions you want. I'm fairly new to the use of suppressed weapons. I do know if it's legal in your state it's best thing since sliced bread was discovered

I would like to do it at some point, seems friendlier to the neighbors. They are legal in Connecticut, but a threaded barrel counts as an evil feature, so there are lots of questions as to how you are supposed to use the silencer.

Use a Sparrow on my 15-22. Works great. Once you use a suppressor, shooting without one is almost uncivilized. I run the Sparrow dry. Also used on my P220 with .22 kit.

+1 to Simmy

I use the SWR Spectre II and the Silencerco SS Sparrow. Both are stainless and can be easily cleaned with any of the known reliable methods, scrubbing, The Dip, sonic cleaners, wet tumbling or soda blasting. Theses are heirloom quality cans supported by the best, industry leading, no BS customer service. These companies will be around in the future for customer support.

Until they remove suppressors from the registry, I will only buy the best cans available. I'm too poor to buy cheap stuff.

I almost never run cans wet. Water can have corrosive effects on aluminum cans or rust barrel threads if the cans are stored wet. Care must be taken for the can to reach the temperature to burn off the water, or remove the wet can from the host. None of this is a problem SS cans.

Liberty Suppressors line of rimfire cans have the lease blow back in the industry. They also have fantastic CS and are willing to accept custom jobs.

AAC has great cans but a record of poor CS problems. They also have been know to break their upgrade promises. Many dealers will not reorder from them because they continually miss product roll-out deadlines or maintain indefinite order statuses, which makes the retailer look bad. The previous owner was know to belittle his customers publicly.


Yankee Hill's Mite is a flawed design that seals the core in as little as 200 rounds.

Gemtech makes good cans but has suffered occasional serious QC issues since Dater sold it.

There are many other makers out there who make good products.

http://www.advanced-armament.com/
http://www.awcsystech.com/
http://coastalgun.com/
http://www.degroattactical.com/
http://www.eliteiron.net/index.html
http://www.smithenterprise.com/index.html
http://www.gem-tech.com/store/pc/home.asp
http://www.g-man-weaponry.com/
http://www.silencerco.com/
http://www.htgsilencers.com/
http://www.innovativearms.com/aboutus.html
http://www.jetsuppressors.com/
http://www.molyresin.com/products.asp
http://www.fullysuppressed.com
http://www.libertycans.net/
http://www.opsinc.us/
http://www.paladinarmory.com/
http://griffinarmament.com/silencers
http://www.specialinterestarms.com/
http://www.srtarms.com/
http://www.swrmfg.com/
http://www.tacticalinc.com/
http://www.tacticalsol.com/
http://thunderbeastarms.com/
http://www.johnsguns.com/
http://www.trosusa.com/
http://www.yankeehillmachine.com/
http://www.qsmsilencers.com/
http://www.ccfa.com/
http://www.redjacketfirearms.com
http://www.auroratactical.com/home.php?cat=272
http://www.ironridgeguns.com/
http://www.tbasuppressors.com/suppressors
http://www.huntertownarms.com/
http://www.thompsonmachine.net/



The 15-22 is a great host. I think it's the polymer construction that makes it quieter than aluminum AR-22s. It's also purpose designed system, not a retrofit, to fire .22 LR. It also has one of the best magazines for .22LR.

i did a ton of research and i came super close to picking up a sparrow. then i ended up using the half of the $ for another .22 host - sig 1911 .22. ive run a friends aac pilot 2 on my 15-22 and thought it was cool. my indoor range is just loud most of the time so i dont really get to see all the benefits. the 3 that definitely caught my attention were the sparrow, spectre ii and element 2.

what do you think of the g5-22? i looked at it initially but didnt find much reviews on it.

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A BARE threaded barrel is an evil feature. If you have something permanently attached to the barrel, then it's legal; Permanent, as in pinned or welded, not simply screwed on.

JoJo's installs them all the time, as do several other shops.

2 AAC pilot II's one dedicated to 15-22, the other a swapper with my pistols.
Gemtech Sandstorm 7.62 for my Savage 10FP-SR and some other AR's
Have the steel and the new Ti Gemtech Trek in line at the NFA now since August 28th went pending. should be here in December according to nfatracker.
now that we can hunt anything in AZ with cans and unlimited mag capacity, my coyote/bob/fox/mnt lion will hopefully improve.

For backyard rocking chair fun there ain't nothing better than a rimfire can.

YHM Wraith.



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Absolutely the best shooting fun to be had.

Ned

can a 5.56 silencer be used on a 22lr?

I won't have a chance to try the G5 till maybe Monday. I purchased the 3 cans because I buy so much from one dealer he gave me a offer I couldn't pass up.
I am seriously thinking about the Sparrow next.
AAC would never fill his orders and wouldn't return emails or calls so he cancelled his order. To me that was a red flag on their CS.
I don't run water in mine just a thin film of grease on the serviceable Alpine I find that it comes apart much easier to clean. My 5.56 YHM says up to 10k rounds before it needs to be cleaned. I know a couple guys who never clean their cans.

I may be wrong but I believe you can run 22 thru 5.56 but I seem to remember there are some issues one being the 5.56 tend to weigh a lot more. The Alpine is rated up to 22 mag I believe and the G5 is 22 short / long

I run the Alpine on a Walther P22 but I am looking towards a more reliable pistol to run it on

True 5.56mm cans are made of stronger stuff than .22 cans so weigh more, yes. But if you have a pinned/ welded flash hider then one of the Quick Detach models may be the way to go.

Is anyone using a QD on their 15-22?

My G5 is QD. The Alpine is direct thread and my 5.56 uses the YHM flash hider / suppressor mount.
I wouldn't use my 5.56 on a 22. The 22 ammo is way to dirty and you can't service it like my 22 cans.
Only soak and flush. After shooting 22 all day the Alpine is damn dirty!

I'm thinking suppressed SBR soon...

like tuna said, you can use it but rimfire is very dirty so i wouldnt recommend it. also you'll get better performance out of a can dedicated for each caliber you shoot.

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od: xd9 3"&4", 15-22, 1911 .22

My issue there is I don't want to buy more than 1 and I don't want it permanent on the rifle. I like flexibility. I would like to be able to move it from one 22 to another.
But I'm not dropping any more money for a while, so I am just educating myself for now.

Then you are out of luck in Connecticut, my friend. Possession of a rifle with three evil features is a felony. Stupid Law!!!!

That's what i figured. I have commitment issues!

My SWR Spectre II is being held hostage by the ATF and my dealer at the moment. Should be home within the month.

for a multiple host .22 can i would definitely get a serviceable one like the Pilot II or others. you can media blast the lead off the baffles and it is good as new. they lead up fast. i have a sealed .22 can that i have to soak in kroil for a couple days then run a brass bottle brush through it, spray the **** out of it with brake cleaner and that only gets maybe 1/2 of the lead out.
keep your 5.55 on your 5.56, and .22 can on your .22. you can get most .22's threaded barrels from tactical solutions, most are just the threaded barrels like for the buckmark or the 10-22, but for my MKII's it is the whole upper which is the serialized portion so you have to FFL it. now a 5.56 out of a 7.62 can is pretty dang quiet also. just FYI.

Seeing as how CT doesn't allow threaded barrels on a weapon with 2 other "evil features" (pistol grip and removable mags), I was thinking something like this might be cool someday.
Perm attach a 6.5" silencer to a barrel cut down to 10". No SBR and no long silencer on the end of the barrel. Fits nice under the hand guard too! But like I said, this would be way down the road.

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Won't work, legally, in Connecticut or any other state. The 16 inches is federal law. The rifled portion of the resulting configuration is still 10 inches - 6 inches short of the legal minimum. You want to go that route, you will need the NFA documentation and tax stamp for an SBR.

Again, it's not a threaded barrel, per se, that is not allowed, it's a bare threaded barrel with nothing permanently attached.

hmm, I am going to have to look into that. I have seen in many other forums where people talk about how they bought a 14" barrel with a 2" flash suppressor to make it the full 16". My understanding was that it makes it more difficult to conceal. And the above example was not a guy making it at home but a factory model. I wish I could remember more specific.

I just talked to the folks at Jo-Jo's and you are correct and I was wrong. The minimum barrel length, including permanent attachments is 16" with a minimum OAL of 27". The length of the rifled portion of the barrel is immaterial, from a legal standpoint.

Sorry for the bum steer.

All good brother. Like I said, not doing anything anytime soon. Just day dreaming. It would be nice if S&W would sell a complete upper for the 15-22 but it would prob be almost as much as a complete rifle.

i really like the tactical innovations setup. since i have 2 .22 hosts, it makes more sense to buy a separate can to use on both and id get better performance out of it. however, i really prefer the sbr look vs a can on a pencil thin barrel. with their built-in can, you can stick with just 1 nfa stamp for a suppressor since its 16" overall length. they also do a shorter version which is 10" or 12" which requires 2 stamps.

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I have a Sparrow sitting in the safe at local gun shop, waiting for the feds to say OK. I has only been 5 weeks so I still have some time to wait. Meantime I am looking at different pistols to put this can on (in addition to my 15/22).

SBR 15-22 + suppressor = stupid fun

I've been doing tons of research and have been trying to find a silencer that I can use on multiple hosts without having to remove the flash hider every time and that can be taken apart. I also wanted to have just one silencer for both my 5.56 guns and my 15-22, as that saves the $500 of getting a dedicated 22LR one.

I've pretty much settled on the Huntertown Arms Kestrel 556. They're supposed to be coming out with a QD version soon, but you can buy it now and upgrade to the QD later as both end caps can be removed. Actually, the rear portion of their can has the serial number, so the main body, endcaps and baffels can all be changed out for another caliber or for maintenance without having to go through the hassle of paying another tax stamp.

Trying to save a buck... I considered buying a 5.56 can and using it with my 15-22 and Sig522, but the more I thought about it it didn't make sense for me.

I shoot my .22 rifles and pistols about 10 times more than my AR. I shoot my 15-22 off hand for extended periods of time and very much enjoy it's light weight. Most 5.56 cans (other than titanium) weigh over a pound, so hanging that much weight from the muzzle of my 15-22 was a non starter for me, and the size and weight made it about useless for my .22 pistols. The thing I like most about shooting suppressed is not having to wear ear protection and enjoying the sounds of the shooting environment. A suppressed 5.56 is about as loud as shooting HV .22 which I wear ear protection when shooting. So.... I asked myself why would I buy a can that I didn't want to use on my .22 rifles or pistols, just so I could use it on an AR and wear ear protection? The answer was... rimfire can. I'm going to get a 5.56 can one of these days but not to save money for use with my .22s.

buy the can you'll shoot the most first, then save up for the second can.

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This.

Don't short yourself, these are possibly life long purchases.

Are there any quick attach 22LR silencers?

What's a common sound pressure level for a silenced 22LR with supersonic and/or subsonic ammunition?

Regarding sound levels, although shooting 22LR suppressed may seam hearing safe, it may not be. OSHA's permissible exposure level at 100db is 2 hours per day. NIOSH's recommended exposure level at 100db is 15 minutes per day.

Hearing loss and sound is very difficult to quantify anyway.

Most hearing protection does not work as well against impulse noise as it does with continious noise. Gunfire is impulse noise.

There is evidence as well that most of the damage is done through bone induction rather than through the air. That means that if you are shooting the gun, the noise in transferred through the gun and through your bones into your ears. If you are a bystander, the hearing protection you have over your ears isn't as effective as it should be becaue the noise is transferred into your bone structure and almost chanelled into your ears.

Softening the report is good all around for everyone's hearing.

KBK

There are quite a few. Some better than others. You can just do a Google search.

KBK

i shoot my 15-22, 10-22 and all my .22 pistols with my dedicated .22 cans and subsonic ammo in the garage all the time. have a nice bullet trap and an improvised one. all you hear is the bolt noise from the rifles, the pistols are a little louder of course.
nothing like shooting in your garage!!

I sure hope you have a way to get the air exchanged in the room. Breathing that mixture is not good for you.

Also, as a side note, I sure hope you live somewhere off the grid where its legal to do what you just explained. Shooting in a residential area is just plain stupid.

As fun as it may be, I would not recommend that to anyone.

If my government is concerned with protecting my hearing, then I suggest they stop making the purchase of suppressors so difficult.

It's harder to buy a suppressor then the actual firearm that it will be used on. Laws are so outdated its unbelievable. 1930s...?

Here it is the other way around. Getting the gun requires applications, fees and licenses. I can and have walked into a shop and bought a suppressor and walked out.

live in the county, no issues with neighbors, garage is fine with door open, no biggie.
I was stationed in Germany from 1988-1998 and man when we would visit Scotland, Ireland and a few other places, getting a can was as easy as walking into a Circle K and getting a candy bar! cheap also. Our quandry was, i had all the guns in my quarters, but could not have the cans on post and could not ship them back... somehow they ended up over here i don't know how they got in that shoe! kept them at a buddies off post place and had a blast.
it is considered inconsiderate to shoot unsuppressed in some civilized countries!
Now buying a gun in a LGS instead of the Rod and Gun club was another story...very expensive, and Red Stag hunts were out of range money wise for most folks.

the bird feeder i put in my backyard has improved my overall shooting. have dove in the freezer year round.

Just saw in another thread that a stripped upper can be had for $20. Wonder what parts they would let go? I would love to have a separate upper some day for a permanently attached silencer on a shorter barrel with an overall 16". But then again, the non-suppressed would prob just collect dust!

SBR it and put the suppressor on other weapons.

Fixed it for ya.

Can a permanently attached suppressor be adequately cleaned?

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no offense but permanently pinning a can to a rifle isn't practical or the smartest thing to do. i suppose if it were a take apart it would work but you would be stuck with one weapon, one can.

Right, but the guy lives in CT.

In Connecticut, anything not permanently attached to a threaded barrel is illegal - AWB requirement. Here the AWB applies to .22s, as well as centerfire.

Im sure you could still clean it. Unscrew the cap, drop the stack out, clean it, reinstall, back to the range.

if you're going to do a sbr, you might as well go with the tactical innovations built in suppressor. especially with needing the 16" length in CT.

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The xcaliber genesis is nice.