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Old 10-15-2012, 04:18 PM
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Ok so I did a search but everything I found was about the threaded versions.

I ordered the Tacticool22 non threaded set screw style barrel shroud, just wondering if anyone else has this one and what your thoughts are on it? Living in NY the gun laws suck *** and having multiple features on a rifle make it illegal such as threaded barrel,extended mags ,collapsable stocks etc. etc.

Anyway what are your thoughts about this shroud, good bad and how well does it stay in place?

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Old 10-15-2012, 04:42 PM
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I've never used it, but keeping it in place should be no big deal. File a small flat on the bottom of the barrel for the set screw to lock into. Put a bead of Blue LocTite on the barrel and slip the shroud on. Put some more on the set screw and tighten it down.

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Old 10-15-2012, 04:58 PM
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I've never used it, but keeping it in place should be no big deal. File a small flat on the bottom of the barrel for the set screw to lock into. Put a bead of Blue LocTite on the barrel and slip the shroud on. Put some more on the set screw and tighten it down.

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Makes me nervous to file a flat spot on the barrel but the blue thread lock I have and its ok to put directly onto the barrel?
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Old 10-15-2012, 05:04 PM
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Makes me nervous to file a flat spot on the barrel but the blue thread lock I have and its ok to put directly onto the barrel?
Then don't do the slot. It just adds an additional level of attachment security. Blue LocTite will not hurt a barrel any more than it hurts scope mount or other screws. DO NOT use Green or Red LocTite. Those make pretty much permanent bonds requiring heat and chemicals to remove.
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Old 10-15-2012, 05:17 PM
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Then don't do the slot. It just adds an additional level of attachment security. Blue LocTite will not hurt a barrel any more than it hurts scope mount or other screws. DO NOT use Green or Red LocTite. Those make pretty much permanent bonds requiring heat and chemicals to remove.
I have the blue removeable loctite in my gun cleaning bag from my ruger 10/22 build so I will use that.
If I were to file a flat section on the barrel what would be a good file to use so that I do not go to deep?
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Old 10-15-2012, 05:56 PM
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I have the blue removeable loctite in my gun cleaning bag from my ruger 10/22 build so I will use that.
If I were to file a flat section on the barrel what would be a good file to use so that I do not go to deep?
1/4 or 3/8 half-cut mill file. Depth is controlled by pressure on the file - press down harder, cut deeper. It doesn't take much. I actually cut a 1/16" deep slot in the underside of the barrel so it would be impossible for the set screw to slide across the barrel.

I mounted a TactiCool threaded barrel adapter on the barrel and a Tactical Solutions muzzle brake/compensator on the adapter.
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1/4 or 3/8 half-cut mill file. Depth is controlled by pressure on the file - press down harder, cut deeper. It doesn't take much. I actually cut a 1/16" deep slot in the underside of the barrel so it would be impossible for the set screw to slide across the barrel.

I mounted a TactiCool threaded barrel adapter on the barrel and a Tactical Solutions muzzle brake/compensator on the adapter.
I might give it a try, just have to see how I feel about it when I get the shroud.
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Old 10-15-2012, 06:13 PM
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I might give it a try, just have to see how I feel about it when I get the shroud.
Just keep telling yourself, "it's just an inanimate piece of metal".
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Just keep telling yourself, "it's just an inanimate piece of metal".
that is true but if I mess it up it is a costly inanimate piece of metal
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Oh ye, of little faith ... or adventure.
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Oh we shall see
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You can always drill a small divot with a 1/4" drill. Only go as deep as the cone shape on the tip. No deeper.
The set scrw does a fine job if you ighten it correctly. After the screw is finger tight using the short arm of the allen wrench, put that end in the socket and tighten down till the long arm has flexed from the 12:00 O'clock position till it is around 2:30 or so. Use a new good quality allen wrench with nice sharp edges or it will just spin and ruin the screw.
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You can always drill a small divot with a 1/4" drill. Only go as deep as the cone shape on the tip. No deeper.
The set scrw does a fine job if you ighten it correctly. After the screw is finger tight using the short arm of the allen wrench, put that end in the socket and tighten down till the long arm has flexed from the 12:00 O'clock position till it is around 2:30 or so. Use a new good quality allen wrench with nice sharp edges or it will just spin and ruin the screw.
Thanks. I look foward to getting it and I am going to try the drill bit idea. I think that will give it a nice little hole to grab on to tightly. I dont really give my guns a beating or drop them down but when I hit the range I go hard and I run off anywhere from 200 rounds to 500 rounds in a day. Or least I think that is a good day at the range, I am sure some might think that is a warm up
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I have 2 M&P 15-22s On one I have the tacticool barrel shroud, the other has the tacticool lookalike flash hider. Both are non threaded barrels so both use the set screws. I cut a small piece of rubber from a O ring put it in the screw hole, put a small amount of blue loc tite on the screw and then tighten it down. The rubber helps to prevent marring on the barrel. Seems to work for me.
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I have the same barrel shroud on mine and I have had no issues with it at all. I have about 550 rounds through it with no signs of it coming loose with no lock tight. I did however find it difficult to get my M-Lok screws to work where the shround enters the hand guard. I found that if you leave it loose while putting your accessories on it helps. I have the 8" version and could have done with the 6" and been happier. Thanks hope this hepls.
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I have the same barrel shroud on mine and I have had no issues with it at all. I have about 550 rounds through it with no signs of it coming loose with no lock tight. I did however find it difficult to get my M-Lok screws to work where the shround enters the hand guard. I found that if you leave it loose while putting your accessories on it helps. I have the 8" version and could have done with the 6" and been happier. Thanks hope this hepls.
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While I don’t have the shroud, the use of power tools, filing on the barrel should raise a red flag.
If you have to use a file or power tools to install, you probably shouldn’t have that part. It’s non-essential anyway.
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While I don’t have the shroud, the use of power tools, filing on the barrel should raise a red flag.
If you have to use a file or power tools to install, you probably shouldn’t have that part. It’s non-essential anyway.
Agreed. You don't have to do any modification for the barrel shroud or the aluminum TC hand guard.
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They also make pointed set screws to make a indention in the metal,
an allen wrench is all you need.

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