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black,FDE,OD (magpul color OD, would be nice to see a mag in this color for once)
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11-02-2012, 10:37 AM
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I was just joking. It would be such a pain to load the belts.
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Yea, sure you were.
You'd buy it in a heartbeat!!!!
Did you lose power or have any damage?
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Yea, sure you were.
You'd buy it in a heartbeat!!!!
Did you lose power or have any damage?
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Well. We are still between our Woodbury apartment and our Goshen house. Goshen did fine. Woodbury is still without power. The generator is powering the essentials. I hear your neck of the woods faired well. How did you make out?
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Well. We are still between our Woodbury apartment and our Goshen house. Goshen did fine. Woodbury is still without power. The generator is powering the essentials. I hear your neck of the woods faired well. How did you make out?
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No problems of any kind - just some high winds blowing away all the leaves on the ground.
Glad you are OK.
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Well sir there are many CAD programs people use to engineer new parts. I have been using Solidworks for 5 years prior to that I used AutoCad for 4. Pro/Engineer is a good program.
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11-02-2012, 12:02 PM
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Well sir there are many CAD programs people use to engineer new parts. I have been using Solidworks for 5 years prior to that I used AutoCad for 4. Pro/Engineer is a good program.
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Just teasing. Used Pro/ENGINEER since 1992... Before that, ink and mylar baby!
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I personally LOVE Solidworks! Never used ProE, Use ACAD daily as a civil engineer. No need for 3D at work
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It's going to be tough getting that curved magazine into that straight pistol grip. Maybe it's flexible plastic?
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I know you put a smiley on it, but those are two different weapon systems, both of which use double stacked .22 rounds, something someone said was impossible.
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Great looking drawings. I would be in for some. Black or camo would be my flavor. Let us know when ready. I will volunteer my services for BETA testing.
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I know you put a smiley on it, but those are two different weapon systems, both of which use double stacked .22 rounds, something someone said was impossible.
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Uh, that's NOT QUITE what was said, thank you.
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I agree, but if he makes a successful double-stack that will be quite an accomplishment. I've never seen a successful .22 double-stack because the rims in the two stacks interfere with each other.
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I know you put a smiley on it, but those are two different weapon systems, both of which use double stacked .22 rounds, something someone said was impossible.
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Yes Sir I had a big smile on my face when I shot the first prototype. It took me 2 weeks to design it and get a prototype. I've shot 1500 rounds with 2 mags and Trust me it is fun spending more time shooting instead of reloading.
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Great looking drawings. I would be in for some. Black or camo would be my flavor. Let us know when ready. I will volunteer my services for BETA testing.
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No problem I will let everyone know when its time. I have 2 people on this forum that will Beta test. I may decide to go with 2 more that way I can receive more feed back to improve on the design.
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I def would help out with the test as needed.
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I just want in on the final product. I'll take a beta test if you are giving them away, but I REALLY want the final product.
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I'm of the opinion that if Eric can pull off a functional, compact, 50-round, double-stack magazine for the 15-22 at a reasonable price, he will kill the sales of the extended-capacity magazines from ProMag, Plinker Tactical and especially the big, bulky drum from Black Dog.
ProMag is also making a 50-round drum but as far as I know, it's only for Ruger's 10/22 and lives up to the reputation of ProMag's metal magazines.
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If this thing is going to revolutionize our 15-22 carrying capacity like it seems, I'm in... shut up and take my money! :-)
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Could be a side load or a split inside load because I was thinking of doing that.
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I'm in for 10 rounders ....But not by choice you see, so don't think I'm not cool or anything.
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I still have to work some kinks out of the 3 prototypes I have. They operate well just need to redesign the follower to keep the bolt open when the last round is released.
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Hurry up, will ya? I'll volunteer to be a beta tester!
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I still have to work some kinks out of the 3 prototypes I have. They operate well just need to redesign the follower to keep the bolt open when the last round is released.
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I take it there's some reason you can't do it the same way the others do?
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I take it there's some reason you can't do it the same way the others do?
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Wouldn't that be a patent issue?
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Wouldn't that be a patent issue?
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Then how do Plinker Tactical and ProMag get around it? Pay a royalty?
The PT magazine they sent me operates exactly the same way as does the S&W.
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Operates yes, but design I believe is where the legalities start. I'm making an educated guess here. I'm not entirely sure how the whole patent thing works. but if it at all resembles copyright law then you can have a mouse character, it just can't look exactly like Mikey Mouse.
Example: Plinker and NDZ both make an after market 15-22 charging handle, however if you look at them side by side they are designed differently. It might be miniscule but they are different. Do the Pro-Mags and Plinker Mag's look exactly like a S&W mag? No. I'm going to wager that with submitted designs, he can have a magazine follower that functions the same as the others, it just can't be designed the same way if there is a patent on that particular piece.
Or he is just trying to design it different for the sake of being different and it's not working out as planned.
People were always pushing me to file for a patent with the dust covers I made for the 15-22, but I always sort of figured, it's been invented already, it's not new and unusual.
I'm sure I'm not completely accurate here, someone please correct me if I'm giving bad info here. I just tend to look at it with the understanding that if it's proprietary, then it's protected.
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[QUOTE=Majorlk; The PT magazine they sent me operates exactly the same way as does the S&W.[/QUOTE]
Did it? I thought you reported that it functioned horribly and gave it away for free?
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I take it there's some reason you can't do it the same way the others do?
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Correct there is a patent on the S&W stock mag. The problem is the internal spring its not pushing the follower all the way up to stop the bolt. Simple adjustment
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Wouldn't that be a patent issue?
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Correct!!! Thats why I made my own design.
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Did it? I thought you reported that it functioned horribly and gave it away for free?
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I believe his issue he had was the loading of the mag not the follower if I'm not mistaken.
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Did it? I thought you reported that it functioned horribly and gave it away for free?
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Yes it was horrible and I decided not to give it away but sent it back to PT. The rear of the follower was shaped exactly like the S&W follower. Since the magazine was a sealed unit, it was not possible to inspect the follower further.
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I believe his issue he had was the loading of the mag not the follower if I'm not mistaken.
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And constant jamming, failures to feed, etc.
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LASTEST UPDATE: I filed for my SOT Manufacturers License today through the ATF. Hope it comes back before the end of the month. But it may take up to 60 days for approval. Wish me luck
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Good Luck!
Any further updates would be great. A mag the size of the ten rounder that could hold +/-25 would be cool as well. But I guess one thing at a time.
I like using my 4 25 round mags with red followers for plinking ammo, and my 25 rounder with the blue follower (modified 10/25 rounder) for varmint ammo. So some more compact higher capacity mags would be cool. Plus I like how it looks more like a PMag.
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PM me a mailing address and I'll send you a loading assist button for the blue magazine.
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Do you want an international tester if so ship one across the pond to me if not will you be able/willing to sell and ship me the finished product (unsure of shipping laws)
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Good Luck!
Any further updates would be great. A mag the size of the ten rounder that could hold +/-25 would be cool as well. But I guess one thing at a time.
I like using my 4 25 round mags with red followers for plinking ammo, and my 25 rounder with the blue follower (modified 10/25 rounder) for varmint ammo. So some more compact higher capacity mags would be cool. Plus I like how it looks more like a PMag.
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I can only make one mag design at a time due to the pricing of the injection molds. The high Capacity design is my priority right now depending how things turn out I'll have 2 other designs ready to go. I've been told by a couple people already that the mag looks similar to a PMAG. I'll have to make some more exterior changes to differentiate it from Magpul.
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Belt feed?
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Maybe...a hopper...dump in the rounds from a bulk pack and they just self-load into the gun!
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Do you want an international tester if so ship one across the pond to me if not will you be able/willing to sell and ship me the finished product (unsure of shipping laws)
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I will be able to get things out your way after I am approved for the S.O.T. Class 2/3 Manufacturers license. Due to ITAR regulations I can not import or export at the moment
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This looks great, definitely a low profile, high round count fan. I think black would be good for us guys with the black guns. Not that I'm a tactical freak, just that it would match and not be to stand out-ish. I think it makes the whole package more sleek looking. Any idea on price so far?
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No pricing at the moment. Injection molding is costly so I'm working on bringing the price of the mold down. When everything is in line and ready to go I will post the information.
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Any teaser on capacity?
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Not ready to give out the information yet.
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Here is another teaser.
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I hope you get ITAR certification. These things aren't likely to be a threat to US soldiers.
And I really REALLY want some. Hey if TAPCO can ship me 30 round AK mags these shouldn't be a problem
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I hope you get ITAR certification. These things aren't likely to be a threat to US soldiers.
And I really REALLY want some. Hey if TAPCO can ship me 30 round AK mags these shouldn't be a problem
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I feel it will be fine but I wont know until everything is approved. Crossing fingers
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i want some of these, i like the the g3 type mag look, and it just makes sense to make this type of mag.
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It would be great if you could be able to throw some ranger plates on the mags if wanted to.
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You know what else would be awesome? Is if you could somehow design the mag so that you load it with .22lr and it magically fires 5.56.
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I was thinking of making my own but I could design the mag to accomodate the Magpul Ranger plate. I'll try making one this weekend. I have other projects going on right now and still looking for a good deal on injection molding.
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You know what else would be awesome? Is if you could somehow design the mag so that you load it with .22lr and it magically fires 5.56.
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I like the idea but will need a miracle for something like that to happen. lol
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