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| | M&P15-22 Mag development The purpose of this thread is to show the stages of product development. I have been working hard for the past 2 months developing a new magazine for the M&P15-22. To the forum moderators I'm not here selling anything just providing information and pics. I know there are several vendors and product development companies on this site that are capable of engineering new products for the M&P15-22. I will only provide basic information as I do not want to give away all my secrets at least not yet.
There are currently a handfull of companies who manufacture magazines for the M&P15-22. I know everyone feels a certain way about each company in regards to quality, capacity, availability, and pricing. Those companies include the stock Smith and Wesson 25 and 15 round mags, Promag's 32 round mag, and Plinker tactical 35 round mag. Please understand I'm not in no way shape of form trying to downplay any of these companies. I respect each one of them and their hardwork to develop new products for the us. I Welcome all comments. So without further a do, I will begin with the first step. | | The Following 3 Users Like Post: | | 
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I reverse engineered each part of the Stock 25 rd S&W Magazine. | 
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| | What's the capacity?
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| | If these are what I think they are I'll take 5.
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| | Awaiting more info. As a note, S&W doesn't make 15 round mags. Their are 10 rounders and 10/25 rounders.
Looking forward to see what comes next. | 
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Keep them coming and don't forget about us Kali guys who can only have 10 round mags
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| | What is the result you are looking for? Or is this a surprise thing and we all have to wait to find out ? | 
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Originally Posted by strobro32 What's the capacity? | I will be able to supply that information when ready. Just know everyone will be happy. Trust me | 
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| | Belt feed? | 
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Originally Posted by TacoDaTugBoat Awaiting more info. As a note, S&W doesn't make 15 round mags. Their are 10 rounders and 10/25 rounders.
Looking forward to see what comes next. | I'm sorry 10 round mags I'm losing my mind. Thanks for the correction. There is also a 32 and 35 round mag by promag and plinker | 
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Originally Posted by Triggs75 Sub'd.
Keep them coming and don't forget about us Kali guys who can only have 10 round mags
Chad | Oh no sir I haven't forgot about the Cali or New York guys. I'm just focused on a current design. Quote:
Originally Posted by crazykg85 What is the result you are looking for? Or is this a surprise thing and we all have to wait to find out ? | Well right now its a surprise, I will disclose information when ready. Figured folks would be interested in a thread regarding new product development. | 
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Originally Posted by TacoDaTugBoat Belt feed?  | No belt feeding. | 
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Originally Posted by TacoDaTugBoat Belt feed?  | Dream on. Belt feed would take a complete redesign of the 15-22's action, including the lower. | 
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Originally Posted by DOOMSDAY TACTICAL Just know everyone will be happy. Trust me | That is the kind of answer I like to hear. Quote:
Originally Posted by Majorlk Dream on. Belt feed would take a complete redesign of the 15-22's action, including the lower. | Not really. It would only take minor tweaking to Lakeside Machine's existing beltfed .22LR upper to work. Too bad he is selling his company.
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Not really. It would only take minor tweaking to Lakeside Machine's existing beltfed .22LR upper to work. Too bad he is selling his company. | Note that's an upper designed specifically for belt feed. It's not a modified 15-22 upper. | | The Following User Likes This Post: | | 
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| | Very creative. Who is he selling the company to? | 
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| | I'm not sure if anyone has made an offer. He was shopping the idea around at the Creek.
Back on topic, I really like box mags for firearms. I'm looking forward to DT's design. Please keep us informed as much as possible.
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Here is my first design of the new mag after I had all the dimensions on the stock mag. Let me know what you guys think. Please keep in mind this is not the final render
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| | Looks like a magazine. | | The Following User Likes This Post: | | 
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| | How do you load it? Most .22 mags I've seen require the loading buttons to stop your fingers breaking. | 
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| | Looks like a double stack mag.  50 rounds would be stellar.  In any case, I would prefer a load assist tab/button.
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Originally Posted by strobro32 Looks like a double stack mag.  50 rounds would be stellar.  In any case, I would prefer a load assist tab/button. | I agree, but if he makes a successful double-stack that will be quite an accomplishment. I've never seen a successful .22 double-stack because the rims in the two stacks interfere with each other. | 
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| | Probably not legal in CA  but I like. I hope it works and is affordable. About 3 of those would melt the barrel. | | The Following User Likes This Post: | | 
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Originally Posted by strobro32 | I stand corrected. First time I have been wrong ... in the last couple of hours. | | The Following 5 Users Like Post: | | 
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| | It looks like the Keltec .22WMR which is a double stack.
I don't think the magazine is for the pistol.... The magazine is made by Shooters Ridge for the 10/22
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Originally Posted by Majorlk Looks like a magazine.  | I tried my best to make it look like one. lol | | The Following User Likes This Post: | | 
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Originally Posted by strobro32 Looks like a double stack mag.  50 rounds would be stellar.  In any case, I would prefer a load assist tab/button. | Well sir I can tell you your close and a load assist tab will not be needed. I will show you when the time is right | | The Following 2 Users Like Post: | | 
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Originally Posted by Kayback How do you load it? Most .22 mags I've seen require the loading buttons to stop your fingers breaking. | No breaking fingers here just time to load them | | The Following User Likes This Post: | | 
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Originally Posted by strobro32 | Great find Strobro32. The Keltec pistol is a double stacked .22 cal and the stock magazine holds 30 rounds. Talk about thinking out the box | 
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Originally Posted by DOOMSDAY TACTICAL Well sir I can tell you your close and a load assist tab will not be needed. I will show you when the time is right | How much more teasing can we take?????????/ | | The Following User Likes This Post: | | 
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Originally Posted by wlkjr How much more teasing can we take?????????/  | IDK maybe 30 more days or less. | 
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Originally Posted by DOOMSDAY TACTICAL IDK maybe 30 more days or less.  | Please hurry. I'm old. | | The Following 3 Users Like Post: | | 
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Originally Posted by wlkjr Please hurry. I'm old. | Well we need to find the fountain to help you out.
Here is one of the 3 designs. | 
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| | In cammo maybe? | 
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Originally Posted by wlkjr In cammo maybe?  | I'm still debating on the exterior colors. Originally I planned on the stock mag color or the FDE. I'm thinking Cammo will be a Great look. | 
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| | Very nice. Keep them coming
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| | What about Hot Pink for the Ladies? Maybe Black cammo or Dark Earth | | The Following User Likes This Post: | | 
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| | How about Black, Foliage Green, Flat Dark Earth, OD Green, and cammo. It would be nice to have an OD green mag to mach my furniture just like on my AR-15.
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Originally Posted by DOOMSDAY TACTICAL What about Hot Pink for the Ladies? Maybe Black cammo or Dark Earth | I will buy the hot pink ones and rock them with the new pink Magpul gear I just found out about.
I have a daughter and a wife who will enjoy shooting it, and I honestly enjoy running pink guns and totally cleaning up at shooting matches. I get it is a .22, but nothing works better when people go "Hur Hur, U R Teh GayZ!" for having a pink gun and you smoke the stage clean.
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Originally Posted by Majorlk Dream on. Belt feed would take a complete redesign of the 15-22's action, including the lower. | I was just joking. It would be such a pain to load the belts. | 
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Originally Posted by Ghost_Soldier How about Black, Foliage Green, Flat Dark Earth, OD Green, and cammo. It would be nice to have an OD green mag to mach my furniture just like on my AR-15. | Nice choice of colors. I guess I will need to conduct a poll to narrow down at least 3 colors at first. | 
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Originally Posted by Kayback I will buy the hot pink ones and rock them with the new pink Magpul gear I just found out about.
I have a daughter and a wife who will enjoy shooting it, and I honestly enjoy running pink guns and totally cleaning up at shooting matches. I get it is a .22, but nothing works better when people go "Hur Hur, U R Teh GayZ!" for having a pink gun and you smoke the stage clean.
KBK | Should I tag the Mag with a slogan (Real Men use pink mags)? | | The Following User Likes This Post: | | 
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Originally Posted by DOOMSDAY TACTICAL Nice choice of colors. I guess I will need to conduct a poll to narrow down at least 3 colors at first. | Here are my three choices; stock mag color, FDE, & Cammo. No particular order |  | | | Thread Tools | Search this Thread | | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode |
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