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Old 11-29-2012, 03:41 AM
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After what I call playing in the army while in garrison, shooting walking and crawling drills, I'm still addicted. I am about to get my hands on a 15-22, and I have noticed one thing that I'm not particularly fond of, and that's a dust cover for the extracting port. After using the search tool and finding a couple of threads, with no luck after two hours of reading posts, I was not able to find my answer.

Is there an ability to add a dust cover to the 15-22? And if so, where at?

I love ready drills and getting dirty when I shoot, and I want to keep my bolt and chamber cleaner than my belly, this would be a nice addition. Any help?
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There isn't an easy way to do it no. You need to fabricate the cover, the mount and the release.

The 15-22 has open magazines which will allow debris into it. Are you sure you're getting the right firearm?

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Old 11-29-2012, 09:50 AM
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There isn't an easy way to do it no. You need to fabricate the cover, the mount and the release.

The 15-22 has open magazines which will allow debris into it. Are you sure you're getting the right firearm?

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Yeah, I'm sure. I have seen plenty of after market mags that are fully enclosed, and I have seen a few that work well.

Thanks for the question though, it is always a good thing to make sure there isn't another issue not thought about or resolved before making a $500 purchase. I have read reviews and found one had a link to a video on YouTube, I know you tube isn't generally where I would go for a gun review either, but nuttnfancy is an off the wall guy, but he seems to have his gun reviews together. His only issue with course drills is the open mag, and there are after markets, one on this forum I can't wait to get my hands on. Made by a forum member.
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After what I call playing in the army while in garrison, shooting walking and crawling drills, I'm still addicted. I am about to get my hands on a 15-22, and I have noticed one thing that I'm not particularly fond of, and that's a dust cover for the extracting port. After using the search tool and finding a couple of threads, with no luck after two hours of reading posts, I was not able to find my answer.

Is there an ability to add a dust cover to the 15-22? And if so, where at?

I love ready drills and getting dirty when I shoot, and I want to keep my bolt and chamber cleaner than my belly, this would be a nice addition. Any help?
Welcome to the forum! There are a couple ways you can approach it, but yeah, you'll have to fabricate one. If you don't really have any fabrication skills, then you can also take an AR15 dust cover and cut it down. You'd have to cut off the cylinder (forgive me, I don't know the technical name for it) on the inside of the door. You would then affix a magnet to the inside of the door. This will keep it closed. You'd use the spring and rod from the dust cover kit as well. You'll have to cut down the rod some though. You will also have to make hinge loops for the rod and glue them to the receiver. I can show you pics of mine if you want.
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Welcome to the forum! There are a couple ways you can approach it, but yeah, you'll have to fabricate one. If you don't really have any fabrication skills, then you can also take an AR15 dust cover and cut it down. You'd have to cut off the cylinder (forgive me, I don't know the technical name for it) on the inside of the door. You would then affix a magnet to the inside of the door. This will keep it closed. You'd use the spring and rod from the dust cover kit as well. You'll have to cut down the rod some though. You will also have to make hinge loops for the rod and glue them to the receiver. I can show you pics of mine if you want.
That would be awesome thanks. I was thinking of the same idea, but I don't know how to go about getting it to tip open automatically.
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There is a picture and review and such of one of these after market doors here on the site. I, just so happened, to have looked at it the other day. Not sure how I came across it, but it is here photos and video review and all.

Here, found it in 2 seconds with Google search. Photos, details, link to video, etc.

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tap your upper reciever, short screws with locktight, a good coil spring, and some sort of latching system, easy to make a cheao one, hard to make a good one.
didnt someone make a magnetic one?
it was mostly cosmetic but modifying his product could resukt in a working product.
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I was thinking about a magnet, and a composite plate with either a bent lip around the edges to give a bit of a seal, or a thin weather type strip to keep the fine dust out of the edges. Or my other idea is keeping with the magnet and composite plate but mounting and edging to the receiver around the ejection port, sort of an external lip like the inset lip on the m-4.
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I was thinking about a magnet, and a composite plate with either a bent lip around the edges to give a bit of a seal, or a thin weather type strip to keep the fine dust out of the edges. Or my other idea is keeping with the magnet and composite plate but mounting and edging to the receiver around the ejection port, sort of an external lip like the inset lip on the m-4.
i think an outset lip with weathertight seal is a good idea. the magnet might be a good idea, but is seems slightly unreliable. i think a latch to the external lip is a better idea
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There is a picture and review and such of one of these after market doors here on the site. I, just so happened, to have looked at it the other day. Not sure how I came across it, but it is here photos and video review and all.

Here, found it in 2 seconds with Google search. Photos, details, link to video, etc.
That is the one done by PainterlyShotGroup and is no longer available. It was 90 percent cosmetic and 10 percent functional at actually keeping dust out of the ejection port.
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I'm not very interested in aesthetics, I want functionality. I have thought about the latch on the shroud, but I don't think there is enough room unless you make the shroud really large and I'm afraid that may cause issues with the ejection port. From what I can tell, right now the magnet would be the best bet as far as I can tell. I just can't wait to get started with it all.
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I'm not very interested in aesthetics, I want functionality. I have thought about the latch on the shroud, but I don't think there is enough room unless you make the shroud really large and I'm afraid that may cause issues with the ejection port. From what I can tell, right now the magnet would be the best bet as far as I can tell. I just can't wait to get started with it all.
Good luck with the project. Be sure to post progress reports - with photos!
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It was 90 percent cosmetic and 10 percent functional at actually keeping dust out of the ejection port.
Yep but that 10% function could have been improved by simple, clean, aesthetically nice useful RTV bead of silicon around the edge to keep out grime.

But it was more to show the OP it can be done nicely and someone did it. It was cool nevertheless.
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I never thought about silicon, just shows that I'm no smith by any means.
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That is the one done by PainterlyShotGroup and is no longer available. It was 90 percent cosmetic and 10 percent functional at actually keeping dust out of the ejection port.
Yes but it was meant to be cosmetic. It functioned like a dust cover in that it stayed closed when you wanted to, it opened when you either charged the rifle or fired a round.

The one I made was made completely by hand, so they were imperfect. The one I run now, is like I described above. It's an actual AR15 dust cover that I modified to fit the 15-22. Another forum member did the same but with the dust cover from an airsoft rifle.

Here are some picture of mine now. In my opinion, fits tighter to the receiver and would most likely do a much better job of keeping crud out. The thing is on an AR15 there is a recess in the receiver that the door closes into and helps create a seal. There is no such recess in the upper of the 15-22. The silicone idea is very interesting though.
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That recess is what I'm thinking about making external on my 1522, maybe out of silicon. Make a good side bead on it, let it dry and take a dremel to it to cut the recess into the silicon.
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Black RTV (used to make head gaskets) is the perfect silicon for this. Just a nice bead around the edge of the cover will make a perfect seal. And it would color match.
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I'm not very interested in aesthetics, I want functionality. I have thought about the latch on the shroud, but I don't think there is enough room unless you make the shroud really large and I'm afraid that may cause issues with the ejection port. From what I can tell, right now the magnet would be the best bet as far as I can tell. I just can't wait to get started with it all.
If you want reliability and functionality, especially in the muck, just build yourself a dedicated .22 AR. My #2 AR, a DPMS, with a CMMG stainless .22 conversion installed is stone reliable. Mags are sealed, functional dust cover, what's not to like. I even shot it without a hitch at some major rimfire competition matches. None of the 15-22 mags are sealed so dust cover or not you can't go slogging thru the mud without cruding it up.
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I've thought about the mag issue Photo, and I have found some aftermarket sealed mags, so that won't be a problem, or after I load em up, I can seal up the mag temporarily with tape. Just be sure you put another piece of tape under that one facing out so it won't catch and gum up the loading knob, can't think of what to call it right now.
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What aftermarket mags are those?

And tape won't work. The knob needs to ride up the magazine as the follower raises.

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What aftermarket mags are those?

And tape won't work. The knob needs to ride up the magazine as the follower raises.

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take the magazine load assist button out of your magazine. manually control the spring pressure as you load rounds from the top of the magazine. replace your magazine plate. wrap mag in chellophane up to the magwell once. then tape up to the magwell.
might work. might not.

and KBK i believe hes referring to the plinker tactical 35 rounds magazines and other similar high cap magazines.
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No, no need for all of that, take electrical tape, and then another piece, cut it in half longways, and put them sticky side to sticky side so that the middle of the tape is not sticky, that way the follower doesn't get messed with by the tape. Simple solution, not too much needed.
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I personally don't use the load assist tabs while loading my mags. Push in the rim end and twist. I can load mags plenty fast and no thumb injuries. I actually learned that method because I split my thumb open on the lips.
So if you wanted to tape it up you could just pull the load assist tabs out for now.
But I think the suggestion of just getting a dedicated AR with a 22lr upper or just a 22 bolt would be better for your desires, if funds allow.
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Fund do not allow lol. But I think my idea will work fine, or I can tape it up completely and take the loading knobs off and manually load the mags. But I do know this is the one I want.
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Funds are a pain in the ***. Personally, I want both, as most probably do. All in due time I guess. And I agree that your double taping should not effect the follower. Have fun!
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