"Buffer Tube" Plug

Gopher Slayer · #1 12-13-2012, 02:42 PM

The thread we were discussing this in is getting sidetracked.

New Owner, Quiet that action!

Some have the plug, and some don't. Maybe with this thread we can figure out what S&W was thinking.

Do the people who don't have the plug have any restrictions in their state? (no threaded barrels, no adjustable stocks, limited capacity mags)

I have a feeling S&W figured they don't need them on models with pinned stocks, so they just left them off all the restricted models period.

Mine is a (033) with no restrictions of any kind. Mine came with a plug.

cryptiq · #2 12-13-2012, 02:57 PM

Same here, 033 w/ plug...no restrictions (FL).

Maximumbob54 · #3 12-13-2012, 03:00 PM

Same as cryptiq.

I wonder if a bore snake or anything useful would fit in there.

ukm@p · #4 12-13-2012, 03:06 PM

033 no plug,no restrictions but live in uk (pc version) I want a plug

Maddmax · #5 12-13-2012, 03:15 PM

No restrictions. Have the plug too.

Juvicator · #6 12-13-2012, 03:26 PM

I've got a plug, one in my 15-22 as well.

Locked-N-Loaded · #7 12-13-2012, 03:37 PM

035 no plug and no restrictions

Majorlk · #8 12-13-2012, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Maximumbob54

Same as cryptiq.

I wonder if a bore snake or anything useful would fit in there.

Yes and yes.

Majorlk · #9 12-13-2012, 03:39 PM

Two 031s and no plug. I'll find out about the elder grandson's 033 when we pick it up in Georgia.

Locked-N-Loaded · #10 12-13-2012, 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gopher Slayer

I have a feeling S&W figured they don't need them on models with pinned stocks, so they just left them off all the restricted models period.

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035, mine, has no restrictions and no plug.. so that cannot be the reason.

I bet there is no rhyme or reason other than... if they have them in stock or not. It is just a finishing item, no actual value, so leaving it off would mean nothing.

There is a chance, they just stopped doing it all together and those that have it might have ones purchased prior to whatever date they stopped wasting time/effort/cost putting a plug in.

Gunslinger808 · #11 12-13-2012, 04:00 PM

Naw, just got my new 15-22 in and it has the plug.

Maximumbob54 · #12 12-13-2012, 04:01 PM

Now I wonder how long it will last if it starts getting removed on a regular.

Locked-N-Loaded · #13 12-13-2012, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Gunslinger808

Naw, just got my new 15-22 in and it has the plug.

Well I also just got mine, 10 days ago, no plug so...

Anyway, what is your model # - post it up

Tempest 455 · #14 12-13-2012, 04:13 PM

Mine has the plug. Got it last week.

Majorlk · #15 12-13-2012, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Tempest 455

Mine has the plug. Got it last week.

Model number?

johnr43 · #16 12-13-2012, 04:42 PM

Came w/ one but it kept coming out, so I put it up ~ somewhere?

DURXXXX, 811033

sound wave · #17 12-13-2012, 04:48 PM

model 33. came with a plug. no restrictions here.

my cap is on firmly. wasn't sure what it was at first.

PigOPs · #18 12-13-2012, 04:48 PM

Plugged...

CrazyFingers · #19 12-13-2012, 05:08 PM

Mine is a 811034 purchased 10-5-2010, serial DUUxxxx.
I do have the "receiver extension" plug. I haven't put anything in there.

19richie66 · #20 12-13-2012, 05:20 PM

033 here, florida no restrictions.Mine came with the plug.

BP_Z28 · #21 12-13-2012, 06:09 PM

I got it. Came with my basic model 15-22 from walmart.

Jyezahn · #22 12-13-2012, 06:22 PM

033 here, no restrictions, plug is tight. I store paracord in mine.

Shooterjgs · #23 12-13-2012, 06:22 PM

Texas... No Restrictions... Model #811033... Plugged

Gunslinger808 · #24 12-13-2012, 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Locked-N-Loaded

Well I also just got mine, 10 days ago, no plug so...

Anyway, what is your model # - post it up

No idea, I never saw a model number other than 15-22.
It's this one:
Magpul MBUS Talo Edition w/threaded barrel.

sound wave · #25 12-13-2012, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Gunslinger808

No idea, I never saw a model number other than 15-22.
It's this one:
Magpul MBUS Talo Edition w/threaded barrel.

the all black one? model # 150781
so the only difference is the MBUS sights and the QD swivel attachment?

Gunslinger808 · #26 12-13-2012, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by sound wave

the all black one? model # 150781
so the only difference is the MBUS sights and the QD swivel attachment?

MBUS, no QD attachment.

Shooterjgs · #27 12-13-2012, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Gunslinger808

No idea, I never saw a model number other than 15-22.
It's this one:
Magpul MBUS Talo Edition w/threaded barrel.

Yea... It's not on the rifle... model number is on the box...

Locked-N-Loaded · #28 12-14-2012, 01:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Shooterjgs

Yea... It's not on the rifle... model number is on the box...

Or here

DelFuego · #29 12-14-2012, 03:39 AM

My APG camo'd 15-22 came with one. Dang it, I was about to take a picture of it and noticed that the darn thing fell out!

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DelFuego · #30 12-14-2012, 03:40 AM

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Originally Posted by DelFuego

My APG camo'd 15-22 came with one. Dang it, I was about to take a picture of it and noticed that the darn thing fell out!

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I would have never known if it wasn't for this thread.

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ArmyArmor · #31 12-14-2012, 06:50 AM

Well now that we know about them we have to have them!! Anyone know how I could get one? Call S&W?

Ranger98 · #32 12-14-2012, 07:22 AM

I tried calling S&W a while back to order a replacement and was told that there was no part number available in order to obtain one.

BP_Z28 · #33 12-14-2012, 10:27 AM

Sounds like a wanted item. I will sell mine for $2,000 lol. Surprised you can't just order one! Why make it in the first place then!?!?!?

sound wave · #34 12-14-2012, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Ranger98

I tried calling S&W a while back to order a replacement and was told that there was no part number available in order to obtain one.

home depot must sell something that can be used. pretty much a standard plug with a little grab tab on it.

from the sound of it, it would probably stay put better too.

TacoDaTugBoat · #35 12-14-2012, 11:20 AM

I have a compliant version and no plug.

Gunslinger808 · #36 12-14-2012, 01:04 PM

I would think that compliant rifles would not have them.
After all, you need to be able to retract the stock in order to be able to use it (unless you have REALLY long fingers).

Jyezahn · #37 12-14-2012, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Gunslinger808

I would think that compliant rifles would not have them.
After all, you need to be able to retract the stock in order to be able to use it (unless you have REALLY long fingers).

It's much easier to remove if you take your stock off.

Ghost_Soldier · #38 12-14-2012, 01:58 PM

030 w/plug no state restricions

Gunslinger808 · #39 12-14-2012, 02:50 PM

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It's much easier to remove if you take your stock off.

That's part of my point, on a compliant rifle the stocks are pinned in place, it takes tools to even get them off.

Maddmax · #40 12-14-2012, 05:02 PM

OK. How many have an S&W logo stamped on the butt stock ? Mine doesn't.. 030.

Majorlk · #41 12-14-2012, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Maddmax

OK. How many have an S&W logo stamped on the butt stock ? Mine doesn't.. 030.

My two don't - 031.

Jyezahn · #42 12-14-2012, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Gunslinger808

That's part of my point, on a compliant rifle the stocks are pinned in place, it takes tools to even get them off.

Yeah, I was just saying that even with the stock in its shortest position, it's difficult to get the plug out.

19richie66 · #43 12-14-2012, 07:36 PM

You can get plugs similar to these at probably any hydraulics place that sells hoses and fittings. Only difference is they will probably be red or blue and wont have S&W on it. We get fittings all the time that come with them to protect the threads.

DelFuego · #44 12-14-2012, 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gunslinger808

I would think that compliant rifles would not have them.
After all, you need to be able to retract the stock in order to be able to use it (unless you have REALLY long fingers).

Define compliant. I live in California and my 15-22 has a threaded barrel, a collapsible stock, and a 10 round magazine.

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Majorlk · #45 12-14-2012, 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DelFuego

Define compliant. I live in California and my 15-22 has a threaded barrel, a collapsible stock, and a 10 round magazine.

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Compliant generally means bare, unthreaded barrel and a pinned stock. The CA model isn't considered a "compliant" model. Your only restriction seems to be the 10-round magazine.

Locked-N-Loaded · #46 12-14-2012, 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DelFuego

Define compliant. I live in California and my 15-22 has a threaded barrel, a collapsible stock, and a 10 round magazine.

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I would say the use of "compliant" around here might more reference the wording S&W uses in their product literature for certain model numbers. If you look at their catalog on 15-22's, the mark certain ones as "compliant" and then explain why that one gets that designator.

I, like you, live in CA and did not buy a specific "compliant" version as the only thing we needed was a 10rnd mag limit so all versions of the 15-22 could technically be made CA compliant.

S&W just designated some and sold some that way likely to make it easier on those wanting to buy and go the easy route and just get it with a fixed stock or non threaded barrel or with a shorty or blocked 10rnd mag. Me? I wanted a MOE and that did not come in a "compliant" version technically.

Locked-N-Loaded · #47 12-14-2012, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Majorlk

Compliant generally means bare, unthreaded barrel and a pinned stock. The CA model isn't considered a "compliant" model. Your only restriction seems to be the 10-round magazine.

They, in fact, at one time did have a specific MOE "CA compliant" model number - I believe it was the 150877. Now you can find a current specifically listed "CA compliant" model 811062 - the key to this model just being the 30rnd capped to 10rnd mag.

Point is, it is sold as a "CA compliant" model made easy for the FFL and retailer and such, but not the only model you could make CA compliant.

Majorlk · #48 12-14-2012, 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Locked-N-Loaded

S&W just designated some and sold some that way likely to make it easier on those wanting to buy and go the easy route and just get it with a fixed stock or non threaded barrel or with a shorty or blocked 10rnd mag. Me? I wanted a MOE and that did not come in a "compliant" version technically.

Due to the AWB restrictions, non-compliant models cannot be sold in CT, MA, NJ or NY; we have NO choice. Even though there is no mag restriction here, we still get the crippled magazine. If someone wants an MOE model, one must outfit it as an aftermarket deal.

Locked-N-Loaded · #49 12-14-2012, 08:49 PM

I was more addressing this statement "The CA model isn't considered a "compliant" model" - in fact, S&W does list it as a "CA Compliant" model. So, if you said you wanted a "CA compliant" 15-22 you could in fact buy just that from them. Model 811062.

Majorlk · #50 12-14-2012, 09:00 PM

Whatever you say. The fact is the ONLY thing "compliant" about the CA model is the crippled magazine. If you want to call that a "compliant' model, that's fine with me.

I'm not about to get into yet another argument with you simply because you get some perverse pleasure out of nic-picing over something that really doesn't matter. End of discussion.