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Old 01-19-2013, 11:21 AM
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Hey guys im just looking for some opinions. I have a freind who turned me out some metal load assist buttons to replace my plastic ones. He has found a way to do them quiet quickly and is thinking of producing them. The question is would anyone be interested or should he not bother. They will just be basic buttons to help slide the follower down no fancy tool to put through them.let me know what ya think and have a great day
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Old 01-19-2013, 11:25 AM
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well, if he can do them quickly, maybe he can just make them to order? that way he wouldn't get stuck with an inventory.

i am pretty sure people who buy the 10 round long magazines would be interested. i know a vendor sells them on e-bay, but if he could beat them in price and quality, he may have a market.
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Yeah i know as of right now he has 40 made and i agree with made to fill orders. He may jus pop out a couple hundred and when there gone there gone. Idk how hes going to do it . Also hes not trying to make a livingboff these he does it because he loves what he does so price shpuld be quiet reasonable.
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As long as they would be cheaper with the same quality as raveneyecustom. They have an excellent rep.
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Ill be recieving some tonight ill try to post tonight. We may even hand out a few for testers not sure like i said as of right now this is all an idea
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I'm interested in some for my 10 rd " long" mags. Looking forward to see how they look.
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Heres some pictures guys tell me what you think.
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Kind of hard to tell, but they appear to look good. What's the price?
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First five people to email [email protected] will receive one free load assist button for testing but must review them on here for others thanks. All prototypes will be bare metal.
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Thanks mcweb, looking fwd to trying it out.
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First five people to email [email protected] will receive one free load assist button for testing but must review them on here for others thanks. All prototypes will be bare metal.
Email sent. I have stock buttons & the raveneyecustom.com so I think I could do a fair comparison.

I really think he should drill them out so people can use a tool that they have or make - like out of a golf t.
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Email sent. I have stock buttons & the raveneyecustom.com so I think I could do a fair comparison.

I really think he should drill them out so people can use a tool that they have or make - like out of a golf t.
They do have a hole its just tough to see in the pics. He used my stock buttons for measurements but modified them for easy use with pull down pins. He was thinking of making a tool but wants to keep costs down for you guys. They are pretty similar to the ravens eye fron what ive seen online.
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Prices are all to be determined . If he leaves them Bare metal obviously thyll be cheaper so depends what u guys want . Thats why we want feedback before we start production.
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Btw all free testers are spoken for thanks guys!
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They do have a hole its just tough to see in the pics. He used my stock buttons for measurements but modified them for easy use with pull down pins. He was thinking of making a tool but wants to keep costs down for you guys. They are pretty similar to the ravens eye fron what ive seen online.
Good good.

Yeah the average guy can make his own tool; golf t, old hex wrench, skinny bolt, old screwdriver, etc. I don't use the one that came with the raveneyecustom one much so really it is not a "needed"part. I would say you need to try to keep them in the sub $2 or max $2 range for singles to be competitive really - and less for bulk orders. Raveneyecustom charges like $7.50 for 3 buttons delivered which I think is a bit much IMHO.

I think black anodized is going to be the way to go for final product. Good color, milspec feeling, neutral & no bouncing of light.

Ps - if you look in my mag thread you can see the black raveneyecustom blacks on some of my mags... nice

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Old 01-19-2013, 09:58 PM
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Its tough to do them for 2 bucks with coating. Its all up to him though im just helping him to get the word out.
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Well we know what the current going rate is so to be competitive it needs to be in that range IMHO.

I bought the 8 pack which got me (as he seems to vary his prices from 16 to just over $20) down to about $2,20 per button.

So I wonder - without the tool & marketing packaging & fluff if $2 is possible if he makes some volume. I guess we will find out as I know for a fact I am buying 7 in the future.... whose 7 will likely depend on price as it will for most people. Really look forward to more on this topic!
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Thanks for sending me out one/ Look forward to trying it out for you guys.
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Definately interested based on price. I need 6!
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Hes figuring out coating costs and everything prices will be listed soon
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Yes the 10 round longs have to have the pin removed for one piece LA buttons to go in, same with RavenEye ones...
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I need 10 of these!
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Yeah these are replacements for the chincy plastic ones in the 25rndrs and its also for people who have modified there 10rnd longs.
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would they work on the promag 32 rounders ?
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Raven's (8 piece plus tool) price is now $23.19, so I would base it on that.
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would they work on the promag 32 rounders ?
That I am unsure of due to the fact i don't own any promags to try them in. You may be able to email the gentleman making them and he may send you a free tester but I am not sure. Other than that i wouldnt know until i have the mag and button in my hand.
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Raven's (8 piece plus tool) price is now $23.19, so I would base it on that.
kind of true.. he has had Buy Now at $16, 17, 18, 19 range and also had auction style. The higher prices came at the auction style when he was at the last of his stock. So, I would base it more on the lower end or an average. Also, his price includes a key... something anyone can make on their own out of many random items.

Either way, I think a goal should be not just to match pricing, but to beat pricing. If it is just matched, what is the incentive? I, and most others, will just buy whatever is easiest and on eBay with eBay Bucks, I actually make money on buying on eBay. So better pricing, that will sway people a direction.
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Alright guys he gave me the word on pricing. $2.00 each. $17.00 for 10. Plus shipping.
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I assume they will be black?

Get me his info so I can find out what it costs to get the 7 shipped I need or do we need to go through you, if so you can PM me if you want?
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Thanks for the update. Pricing sounds fair if they have a black finish. Waiting to hear from the lucky "testers" to see how well they work.
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They will have a black oxide coating .
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great.. so, how do we get them? he ready now or a week or a month or what?
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Also recieved confirmation the five testers will be dropped at the post office today.
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Alright guys i spoke with him he said one week from now hell be taking orders. I will not handle any orders they are all through him. Im simply just helping to get the word out. Also he will know price of shipping tonight also. Please be patient guys and please try to remeber this is not his job he just does it for fun so hes doing things as quick as he can. We appreciate your guys interest and hope to have you as future customers.
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sign me up for 20 if hes able
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He will be more than able. Hes taking orders starting next week i will post the email to contact him with that he made just for this on next monday.
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Good news guys he is taking orders as of now. For right now he will be taking orders through his email [email protected] while his website is being constructed. These buttons will work only with 25 round mags and 10 rnd shorties . These are not compatible to stock pinned 10 rnd long magazines since you cannot bring the follower down enough. (Buttons are in development to be used with 10 rnd pinned mags) thankyou.

Again prices are $2.00 a peice or $17.00 for ten.
Shipping is $2.50 for 1-10. $3.50 for 10-20.

For now only accepted methods of payments are paypal and of course cash.

And remeber i do not handle any orders or anything to deal with transactions i am just passing along the word but thanx guys for the feedback and support

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Just sent an email.... So ..... These will work for the "10 round long S&W 15-22 magazines....///"
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Just sent an email.... So ..... These will work for the "10 round long S&W 15-22 magazines....///"
yes BUT as is clear above NOT until you unpin them so you can slide the follower down.. And, since your in San Diego, CA you need to then reblock them. Get some blocks from Tacticool22.. that is what I use here in CA.
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yes BUT as is clear above NOT until you unpin them so you can slide the follower down.. And, since your in San Diego, CA you need to then reblock them. Get some blocks from Tacticool22.. that is what I use here in CA.
I did the "10 round long magazine mod"on four of my magazines! I do not understand "blocks" I will look it up!
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Hate to get off subject but,are these the blocks that you are talking about! Smith & Wesson M&P15-22 10 Round Magazine Restrictor [MR1] - $4.25 : Tacticool22, Tactical .22 Rifle Parts and Accessories.
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These buttons will work only with 25 round mags and 10 rnd shorties . These are not compatible to stock pinned 10 rnd long magazines since you cannot bring the follower down enough. (Buttons are in development to be used with 10 rnd pinned mags) thankyou.


For now only accepted methods of payments are paypal and of course cash.
ETA for the 10 round pinned?
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Hard to say he just started working on it. Prolly no earlier than a month.
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exactly... if you remove your pins to remove the follower to put in these buttons you will have to block it back to 10 rounds to be CA legal so you need those blocks to do so. I just got another batch in the mail from them today, it is how I 10rnd block all my 25rnd mags to be CA legal.
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Order placed and paid for... Hope they are on par with quality, I guess we will find out just how nice these are I will report back my honest opinions since I have the raveneyecustom.com models as well.
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