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Old 01-29-2013, 07:21 PM
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Has anyone else seen this? Seems like this guy will be in trouble and on top of that im not even sure its real. Just thought I would share.

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Old 01-29-2013, 07:43 PM
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The slide fire stock is a very simple design. It must only keep the finger in a singular position and slide on the buffer tube. I think its very likely and possible to make a "homemade slide fire stock"
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I thought about that after I posted this.

also I see you like Doctor Who, Awesome!
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Yeah, pretty easy to make. Why would you think he'd be in trouble for that though?
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If its so easy and legal then why are people spending so much on the ugly slide fire stock. I'm just curious that's all.
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i made one for my mp15-22 and ruger 10/22 and use both at a public range overseen by a game warden and have had police and gov workers shooting along side of me they think its cool and 1 officer is going to make his own--illegal no way just check the atf website--btw i do keep material from the atf website with me in case someone doesnt believe in the legality of it---check local laws too
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The only thing that concerns me about the video is the complete lack of safety exhibited by the guy. Shooting indoors with no back stop except the water heater, no ear or eye protection, and who knows what a ricochet could hit. Other than that I used to think slide fires were dumb and I still do for a 223/5.56 but on a .22 I think they look fun. Not now of course because I don't have enough ammo to dump a 25 round mag and not worry about my range time only lasting 30 minutes. And, the slide fire stock is cost prohibitive right now for me. The rapid fire .22 does sound nice.
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If its so easy and legal then why are people spending so much on the ugly slide fire stock. I'm just curious that's all.
1. Because most people would rather just spend the money than to take the time to fabricate their own. Much like buying a ready-made pizza instead of homemade. BTW, when I say "easily made", I mean, no complex knowledge of gunsmithing is required to make one. If you've seen one, even just on video, then you know all that is needed is pretty basic.

2. Why would you think it's illegal if you can freely purchase (without a tax stamp) a product that is mass produced FOR its intended purpose?

3. This in no way makes the rifle fully-automatic. It simply increases the rate at which you can fire, utilizing the rifle's own recoil.

4. What is ugly to you, is beautiful to others.
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There is a thread on ar15.com where this idea came from. Not much to it.

I have one that in progress at the moment.
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If its so easy and legal then why are people spending so much on the ugly slide fire stock. I'm just curious that's all.
Same reason people think plinker tactical sucks..they have no patience and don't want to spend the time..
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Thanks for the info you guys, I always learn a lot from this forum. It just seemed like making a modification like that would be illegal to do on your own rather than buying a product from a company with a license for product like that.

That was just my initial thought but know I understand what you guys mean. Also I seems really dangerous to be shooting in his basement but that's a story for another thread haha
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There is a thread on ar15.com where this idea came from. Not much to it.

I have one that in progress at the moment.
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I hate to be the Debbie Downer, but given all that is going on right now, and the fact the Devil herself mentioned the bump fire yesterday at the Senate hearing, it makes me wish these weren't around let alone so easy to make or buy.

I'm not one to get too caught up in the doom and gloom mentaility, but if someone were to commit a crime using one a BF it'd be over for us. The liberals would have all they need to take ARs off the streets forever.
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A strong rubber band on the trigger is all it takes on an AR. I have the ready made SlideFire pizza on an AK and it works pretty slick as well. It is all technique. With sufficient technique, it can actually be done with no modifications to the firearm.

However, from practical point of view, if someone was firing at me, I would rather they were bump-firing rather than single shot timed deliberate fire. The safest place is most likely POA.
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It's fun to use a bumpfire stock. You can also get pretty good in the accuracy dept if you practice a little. I am guilty of sometimes wanting to have fun and using a bumpfire stock. Before these things came out I used a crank device called a bmf activator on my marlin that mimicked a gatling gun. I never really tried the whole beltloop trick because it just seemed silly to me so I guess that's how some feel about the bumpfire stocks. I did make a bumpfire stock for an ak before slidefire an fostech marketed some but I got tired of tightining up things after a few mags so I bit the bullet an bought one. I am suprised they are legal and haven't went the way of the akins accelerator yet but give it time. Tho shalt have no fun
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Wasn't some type of bump-fire device what got Ole' David Koresh's compound in Waco, TX burned to the ground by the ATF back in the 90's? Seems like later reports turned up that all the firearms recovered from the compound were semi-auto, legal for purchase firearms.

Just sayin..... don't be the next Dave.

I'd rather the legislative gun-haters focus their attention on bumpfire stocks than high-cap magazines. But that's personal opinion. And don't take this the wrong way, I don't have anything against bumpfire devices. I do agree with a post further up the thread - probably the safest place to be is the POA, at least after the first shot.
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I'm a sissy I guess because I wouldn't wanna go up against a bumpfire stock even tho they are so inaccurate, impracticle, etc. Etc. I guess the feds felt the same way about the Waco situation. Those hellfire triggers must have actually worked.....guess I shoulda got one of them at the last gunshow . Oh well since ammo seems in short supply it appears none of these devices make much of a difference until the sky stops falling .o
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I hate to be the Debbie Downer, but given all that is going on right now, and the fact the Devil herself mentioned the bump fire yesterday at the Senate hearing, it makes me wish these weren't around let alone so easy to make or buy.

I'm not one to get too caught up in the doom and gloom mentaility, but if someone were to commit a crime using one a BF it'd be over for us. The liberals would have all they need to take ARs off the streets forever.
I was watching the same senate hearings and yup slide fire was mentioned directly. The context was that it is easy to turn a semi auto into a full auto with such a device.
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I think Mainevent got it right.
The bump fire in my opinion pours gasoline on the fire.
We need to understand the antis primary arguments are based on emotion.
The faster you can burn ammo whether it is effective or not the louder will be the hue and cry.
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I can see both sides of this argument. I have one and love it, but after the CT shooting that was the first thing I thought "thank god he wasn't using a slidefire" While I agree, it is far less accurate, it still can be managed after practice. With the .223 at 50yds I had them in a 24" group and the .22 I can have inside a dinner plate at 50yds. With my 15-22 I can actually use it while using my grip-pod and still do a full mag dump while prone using the bipod legs. And something overlooked while talking about the slidefire is that you can do as few or many round strings as you want. You can still 3-rd burst after practice so the effectiveness could still be achieved. When I bought my slidefire way before all this bad stuff started happening, it was the talk of my shooting buddies and got asked about it all the time. Even from people I didn't know. As of late, I pretty much just leave it locked up.
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Banning a bump-fire stock is really kind of rediculous. If you want to do a mag dump with your firearm, you'll find a way. Maybe they should outlaw the Dremel moto-tool...
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Would you rather see a slide fire and 100-round mags go or see it all go? If, and I know it's a big if, a person uses anything like either one of those from here on out in a mass shooting then the fat lady is going to go on stage.
There will be no "sporting rifle" image left to protect. All there will be is a witch hunt for anything related to "assault rifles".
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Would you rather see a slide fire and 100-round mags go or see it all go? If, and I know it's a big if, a person uses anything like either one of those from here on out in a mass shooting then the fat lady is going to go on stage.
There will be no "sporting rifle" image left to protect. All there will be is a witch hunt for anything related to "assault rifles".
I refuse to concede anything. Period.
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Not much to say regarding the genius shooting his hot water tank.Regarding the slide fire stock, they are legal as per ATF approval letter.

http://www.slidefire.com/downloads/BATFE.pdf
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Havent we had enough consessions? I mean, I get the whole "no constitutional right is unbridaled". But im an old guy so keep that in mind if you bother to read the rest of this.

Im old enough to remember the 1986 tragedy in Miami with the F.B.I. agents that resulted in the original "assault weapons ban". Back then, the term was machine gun, and it effectively banned any full auto weapon BUT grandfathered those made prior to its enactment. What it essentially did was ban "machine guns" from everyone but the wealthy. The tax stamp wasnt as much at issue as was the scalper prices on the pre-ban weaponry that was transferable. An old tactic really, in that instead of out-right banning anything, you simple make the price so outrageous that they become unattainable to most. So, instead of spraying a target with full auto fire, It became fashionable to neutralize the threat with a round of shot from a shotgun peppering with less rounds.

As a young man with limited financial resources I decided to play with machine guns on Uncle Sams dime and time. That was fun, but once that gig ended and I became "CIVILized" I still enjoyed firearms, but no more full auto playtime. I used to get a kick out of going to the range just to people watch and see all those folks with their M forgerys an AK fotay sebens pulling the trigger just as fast as they could on weapons that they payed overpriced amounts for that when field stripped and cleaned were revealed to be nothing more than watered down, neutered, parted out copys of the real deal.

I wanted to get my own military rifle for range play but I wanted an authentic one that was in the same condition as the maker had made it for the military instead of a "safer" and "civilianized" version marketed towards us lowly untrustworthy civilians. So I bought a Garand, and enjoyed myself. Then along came the 94 AWB. I eventually sold the Garand to fund a purchase of the at that time ELUSIVE high capacity evil 9mm pistol. Of course the 94 ban sunseted and the world turned and I eventually got back into the world of recreational shooting. I wanted another AUTHENTIC military rifle so I bought an SKS. I loved it so much I bought a Mosin to keep it company and then I found one of those hand crank gatling gun things for a 22. I bought it on an impulse and put it on my Marlin 795 from time to time for grins an giggles. Its fun, and something about wasting 22s just felt good. Low an behold, someone finally started making drum mags for the Marlin an i was REALLY havin fun at the range. Id heard about slidefire stocks and since id had some exposure to the AK platform I figured since 7.62x39 was cheap enough id try my hand at making one since at that time slidefire didnt offer an AK model. So after a brief affair with the cheap and evil AK I was introduced to the lovely 922R compliance worksheets. After that introduction I liked my SKS even more so I dropped the AK and my homemade bumpfire stock like 3rd period French.

Then I learned that some folks had actually been able to get a Slide Fire stock to work with a 22. Since 22 ammo and rapid fire seemed a perfect combo for me to get my full auto fix I set out to get a Smith & Wesson M&P 15-22. I had heard some had got the slidefire to work on Ruger 10-22s but id never been a big fan of Rugers so...I finally got lucky and aquired my little AR wanna be 15-22.

Now im in the autumn of my life, enjoying plinking and popping with my little M forgery and all of a sudden some joker shoots up a theatre, then we have the tragedy in Connecticut and now I cant even find 22 ammo, Now we have impending legislations, and now my $250.00 SKS is worth $500.00 and likely the ONLY automatic rifle that wont be on the ban list. The whole firearm industry is in turmoil, and all because of a handful of murderers who could have, and would have wreaked havoc with ANYTHING they could have aquired, (bombs, vehicles, knifes,etc) but because they had firearms its a bumpy ride for every gun owner.

I found it Ironic that the Colorado school shooting (Columbine) occured during the last AWB and I also find it Ironic that the mother of the murderer in Newtown whos guns the shooter used after murdering his mother were legally aquired by her, in fairly haste fashion because she feared a renewel of the 94 AWB after the re-election of the incumbent. It would seem the very "ban" every advocate is pressing for is the very one (at least in part) that has already erased the lives of 20 children.

I dont think anyone on this board would have a problem turning in every gun they own if they thought for one minute it would avoid another tragedy like the ones we have seen as of late....but the reality is glowingly apparent that anyone willing to commit murder is certainly willing to commit other crimes to gain access to weapons be they slidefire equiped or otherwise, 30 round mag or 10 round, etc. etc.
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Well said capt.koolaid. WELL said.
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I dont think anyone on this board would have a problem turning in every gun they own if they thought for one minute it would avoid another tragedy like the ones we have seen as of late.

Don't include me in that statement. Anyone who willingly gives up freedom in the pursuit of safety will soon have neither.

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Don't include me in that statement. Anyone who willingly gives up freedom in the pursuit of safety will soon have neither.
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Don't include me in that statement. Anyone who willingly gives up freedom in the pursuit of safety will soon have neither.
Holy ****!

Dont include me either. That is absurd. I wouldnt give up a single gun. Dont kid yourself.

The occasional fruit loop going to a shooting preserve known as a "Gun free zone" pales in comparison to what communists tend to do with dissenters.

And make no mistake, the commies always trying to steal our liberties are no different than Mussolini, Hitler and all those other demonic communists.

Taking guns from law abiders to reduce "gun violence" makes about as much sense as tackling drunk driving by taking cars from sober people.

Holy ****, cannot believe I read that on a gun forum.
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