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Old 02-17-2013, 06:10 AM
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Why do I see so many posts complaining about prices?

Prices are what they are because of our free market economy.

It's fine if you don't want to pay a higher price for something because it was cheaper and plentiful a few months ago but don't rant that sellers are price gouging. Someone else will pay the asking price.

I see post after post where people say that they can't find magazines. Then more posts crying about the high prices of magazines. The same goes for ammo.

Supply and demand......
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Old 02-17-2013, 06:51 AM
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Give people any reason to complain, no matter how small or large, and they will. I don't particularly want to spend any more than the next guy, but adapt and overcome is the name of the game.
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Old 02-17-2013, 07:24 AM
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It is somewhat unfortunate that .22lr is approaching centerfield prices. All because so many of us start getting itchy fingers every time we see "in stock" on a website and can't stand the idea of others having some
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I have sympathy for those who are thinking of taking up the shooting sports, and brand new firearms enthusiasts that are just starting out. These individuals have no experience dealing with a firearms panic where demand far outstrips supply. They cant find the firearm of their choice, ammo, and are paying artificially inflated prices.

I also have partial sympathy for those firearms enthusiasts who started within the past three years. Partial sympathy because they got in after the last panic, but didn't bother to take the initiative to learn some firearms enthusiast history.

After the first time BHO was elected, I got caught unprepared. I couldn't find any factory ammo for practice. If not for the 25 rounds of defensive JHP, my handgun would have been a useless paperweight for months. My only opportunity to practice came when I got lucky and found an occasional box of ammo. I stalked local stores, competing against every other ammo consumer.

I vowed that this will not happen to me again. Over time, I slowly built up a factory ammo reserve as a buffer against disruptions in ammo supply. I also hedged the buffer by learning to reload, and slowly stocking up on consumable reloading components. The ancillary benefit is that my ammo reserve also evens out the impact of price increases during "regular", non panic times. Remember when a 50rd box of 9mm was $6.99, then went to $8.99, then $9.99? Now it's $12.99?

I'm not out there buying up shelves of ammo. I'm not profiteering from this current panic. I'm not the bad guy that the unprepared accuse me of being. Yet, I get negative comments. Hopefully when the disruption in he supply chain subsides and everything is readily available again, those who got caught unprepared will do themselves end favor of building up a reserve of ammo.
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It is somewhat unfortunate that .22lr is approaching centerfield prices. All because so many of us start getting itchy fingers every time we see "in stock" on a website and can't stand the idea of others having some
Very true...to pay over $50 a brick for .22 to me is way high but people are diving on it at any price when they can order it online. Seems almost like the thrill of the find takes over for the brain at times. I've been getting .22lr locally without too many problems, they might not have the exact brand I wanted but they always seem to have some options in stock.
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. . . I'm not out there buying up shelves of ammo. I'm not profiteering from this current panic. I'm not the bad guy that the unprepared accuse me of being. Yet, I get negative comments.
Yeah, words like "hoader" and "gouger" are names the unprepared call those of us that were prepared.

It should have been obvious since the elections of 4 years ago that it might be prudent to buy a little extra ammo as one could afford because something was going to happen and it was likely to be bad for gun owners. It really didn't take a crystal ball to see this one coming.
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I also stocked up just before the first election Obama won on reloading components and 22 Ammo and I've maintained my inventories since then plus I reload all my centerfire ammo and I have maintained an inventory of 10 Bricks minimum on 22LR ammo.

Now I recently traded for a Browning HP and I bought some extra 15 round Mec-Gar magazines and I had to pay a premium but that just goes with the territory and I didn't mind as I wanted the magazines.
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Very true...to pay over $50 a brick for .22 to me is way high but people are diving on it at any price when they can order it online. Seems almost like the thrill of the find takes over for the brain at times. I've been getting .22lr locally without too many problems, they might not have the exact brand I wanted but they always seem to have some options in stock.
The few gunstores in my area (50 mile radius) that have any 22 ammo at all are charging $10.00 a box of fifty. That equals $100 a brick.
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The only problem I have with the hoarders is they buy stuff they don't need or aren't planning on shooting. Walmart here puts out ammo at 7 am. This happens to be the time that I have to be at work. By lunch time its gone or there is one box left. After work there is nothing. I used to go shooting every weekend but now I either can't find ammo or can't afford to buy what I could have got at Walmart at a gun show. For double the price.

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On this subject, an old Navy chief once told me, "Son, it don't matter what it costs, are they still makeing it is the question! If its out there I'll get some." We were talking about 44 cent per gallon gasoline back in '73.
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The only problem I have with the hoarders is they buy stuff they don't need or aren't planning on shooting. Walmart here puts out ammo at 7 am. This happens to be the time that I have to be at work. By lunch time its gone or there is one box left. After work there is nothing. I used to go shooting every weekend but now I either can't find ammo or can't afford to buy what I could have got at Walmart at a gun show. For double the price.

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No you can't afford to shoot as much as you used too for the same price...doesn't mean you can't afford to shoot. Yeah this panic sucks but others here are right - evidently people are willing to bear the inflated pricing or the shelves would be stocked full of "overinflated" ammo. I see this panic like parents who have to get their kids the latest gaming system no matter the cost...its idiocy for sure but people ARE paying it.
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Well, funny thing. You see the prices rising crazy in shops, online boards and online sales sites. But Wilson Combat for instance still has the same pricing.

You wanna sell me a Colt carbine for $2,600 now? Guess what? Go and figure it out yourself.

People can ask whatever they want for their stuff. But I'm not willing to pay such ridiculous prices...
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No you can't afford to shoot as much as you used too for the same price...doesn't mean you can't afford to shoot. Yeah this panic sucks but others here are right - evidently people are willing to bear the inflated pricing or the shelves would be stocked full of "overinflated" ammo. I see this panic like parents who have to get their kids the latest gaming system no matter the cost...its idiocy for sure but people ARE paying it.
I guess I should have said I'm not going to waste gas driving to the range a half hour away just to shoot 150 over priced rounds just because I have a job that makes it so I can't get to the shelf the moment its put out.

So I guess I could afford to shoot. But only once or twice a week compared to every weekend as I did before

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Same people whining about the possible gun ban, shouldve prepared, just part of the system.
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Why do I see so many posts complaining about prices?


I see post after post where people say that they can't find magazines. Then more posts crying about the high prices of magazines. The same goes for ammo.


Supply and demand......
You know what would help....an entire thread complaining about people complaining.

Divided we fall.......
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i do know this, that the day's of $20.00 for a brick of 22's are gone even after things "settle down" also the cost of reloading supplys are going to stay high. once the prices go up they never come back down to where they were. this is going to last alot longer than people think and things will never be the same again.this is a major shake up for the shooting population and it is going to change the future of this sport.
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I think that most of us can agree that supply and prices are not what we'd like to see. Beyond that, i don't believe another one of these threads is necessary.

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