Smith & Wesson Forum

Go Back   Smith & Wesson Forum > Smith & Wesson Rifles and Shotguns > Smith & Wesson M&P 15-22
Forum Register Expert Commentary Members List


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #1  
Old 05-23-2014, 08:14 PM
Road Man's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Kentucky
Posts: 33
Likes: 0
Liked 19 Times in 9 Posts
Talking Slide Fire on my 15-22

When I bought my MOE 15-22 in January it was part of a larger plan.

First, get the 15-22 and shoot it for fun and to establish a base of reliability. I have over 2300 rounds through it and the gun is very reliable. Some brands of ammunition not so much, but the gun is reliable.

Second, get a Slide Fire stock. Well, it arrived the other day. I got the Kit with the stock, FCG, and Recoil Enhancer bundled together by the good folks at Slide Fire. I added the threaded trigger pins, and a rubber butt pad. The butt pad increases the length of the stock slightly, which is good for me, and also serves to provide a grippy surface to my shoulder pocket. I have printed the BATFE letter and placed it in a baggie inside the buffer tube and the butt pad serves to help enclose the letter.

The third step in the plan will be to get a .223 AR, probably a Colt 6920. My plan has been to put the MOE furniture on that rifle and a different handguard. I like the AB Arms Pro Handguard without the rail on top. Step 3 won't happen for several months to a year, so I will need to remain patient.

When the .223 AR arrives the Slide Fire stock will see occasional use on the platform, however the stock will see primary use on the 15-22 due to the huge cost savings in burning through .22lr versus .223 Remington. I will be reloading .223, but even then the cost leans heavily toward the .22lr.

If everything continues according to plan I will pump 500 rounds through the 15-22 on Tuesday. I may shoot a magazine or two in single shot semi-automatic mode and then the remainder using the stock as the manufacturer intended.

I have already checked with the Range Safety Officer where I shoot, and he has NO PROBLEM with SlideFire, or even Class III, so long as everything is legal. SlideFire he already knows is legal, and Class III he would just need to see the tax stamp. The only rule is that all rounds need to hit the backstop. It is nice living in a state where the Second Amendment is respected.

In the past I have rented full auto Class III firearms before and it sure is fun, just prohibitively expensive.

I have seen plenty of YouTube videos where people are able to get these stocks to work without lighter triggers or recoil enhancers. Getting the kit should make this purr like a kitten. I am very excited.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 05-23-2014, 09:52 PM
CAR-AR-M16's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Oklahoma
Posts: 21
Likes: 0
Liked 13 Times in 6 Posts
Default

My local range will allow real full-autos to be fired, but prohibit the Slidefire. Too many guys were flinging rounds all over the place with the Slidefires.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 05-24-2014, 05:53 AM
Rob1's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Boston UK
Posts: 206
Likes: 294
Liked 144 Times in 82 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Road Man View Post
When I bought my MOE 15-22 in January it was part of a larger plan.

First, get the 15-22 and shoot it for fun and to establish a base of reliability. I have over 2300 rounds through it and the gun is very reliable. Some brands of ammunition not so much, but the gun is reliable.

Second, get a Slide Fire stock. Well, it arrived the other day. I got the Kit with the stock, FCG, and Recoil Enhancer bundled together by the good folks at Slide Fire. I added the threaded trigger pins, and a rubber butt pad. The butt pad increases the length of the stock slightly, which is good for me, and also serves to provide a grippy surface to my shoulder pocket. I have printed the BATFE letter and placed it in a baggie inside the buffer tube and the butt pad serves to help enclose the letter.

The third step in the plan will be to get a .223 AR, probably a Colt 6920. My plan has been to put the MOE furniture on that rifle and a different handguard. I like the AB Arms Pro Handguard without the rail on top. Step 3 won't happen for several months to a year, so I will need to remain patient.

When the .223 AR arrives the Slide Fire stock will see occasional use on the platform, however the stock will see primary use on the 15-22 due to the huge cost savings in burning through .22lr versus .223 Remington. I will be reloading .223, but even then the cost leans heavily toward the .22lr.

If everything continues according to plan I will pump 500 rounds through the 15-22 on Tuesday. I may shoot a magazine or two in single shot semi-automatic mode and then the remainder using the stock as the manufacturer intended.

I have already checked with the Range Safety Officer where I shoot, and he has NO PROBLEM with SlideFire, or even Class III, so long as everything is legal. SlideFire he already knows is legal, and Class III he would just need to see the tax stamp. The only rule is that all rounds need to hit the backstop. It is nice living in a state where the Second Amendment is respected.

In the past I have rented full auto Class III firearms before and it sure is fun, just prohibitively expensive.

I have seen plenty of YouTube videos where people are able to get these stocks to work without lighter triggers or recoil enhancers. Getting the kit should make this purr like a kitten. I am very excited.
Envious is one word I can think of for one of those things.

Would love to get me one of those Slidefire stocks. Only problem is the price ! UK price tag is £500 when I last looked. That is 845 USD according to exchange rate I just looked at.

Also not sure if they even legal in UK so that's also a potential issue though easily checked.

Will put on wish list but honestly don't think it will find it's way on to my MOE.

Get some rounds through it and enjoy the hell out of it.
__________________
Utrinque Paratus
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 05-27-2014, 05:34 PM
Road Man's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Kentucky
Posts: 33
Likes: 0
Liked 19 Times in 9 Posts
Default

Well, today I went to the range and put 400 rounds down the pipe. First, I shot one magazine in single fire to get used to the different feel of the new trigger and the recoil enhancer. The trigger was observably better. The recoil was a little stronger, but it was still just a .22 and relatively slight.

I gave the Range Safety Officer a heads up letting him know what I would be doing, but once I opened up in rapid fire lots of heads turned to see what was going on.

It took me about half a magazine to get the hang of using the stock. The 15-22 did purr like a kitten, or should I say Growl like a Lion! At around 175 rounds the gun started slowing down. This was because the gun was getting dirty. I had several rounds that would not fully chamber. Of course each one of those stopped everything. All of those rounds did fire when fully chambered. The dirty gun also had several rounds stick in the chamber with the extractor slipping off.

All in all I had a blast. What I learned... Bring a bore snake and just plan on running it down the barrel every time you feel the action starting to slow down. Keeping ahead of dirt will go a long way toward reliability with the Slide Fire. I did not have difficulty keeping on target. I was firing at a clay pigeon laying on a dirt berm at 25 yards. I was easily able to keep within a foot of the target. You do need to keep a relatively loose hold on the weapon so greater accuracy is achievable, but will take some practice.

I let three guys fire the gun. One of them had some difficulty, the other two were having success within their first magazine.

Today I used Winchester M-22. The round is a 40 grain round nose black copper plated bullet, the box lists the speed at 1255 fps.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 05-27-2014, 07:16 PM
ScopeEye's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Earth
Posts: 19
Likes: 0
Liked 5 Times in 3 Posts
Default

I have Slidefire, Love it, makes me smile
The most fun you can have with your pants on...
My local range doesn't seem to care, I never asked, they never said anything
When I shoot with it, it always attracts attention.


I'm running a CMC 3.5# trigger with stock muzzle attachment, that's the best configuration I've found.

I first tried wolf reduced weight trigger springs, that was an improvement over stock
I also tried a recoil enhancer , the biggest problem with those is after a few hundred rounds the ports clog up.
If your going to run one, get a welding torch tip cleaner

I lube my rifle with Dupont Teflon Chain-Saver (Wax Based Chain Lube) Spray on, dries real quick, buff off, super slick

IMO the best ammo to run with the Slidefire is CCI mini mags
With that said mine will run on any brand ammo
Funny, it runs really good with Golden Bullets, My second favorite ammo for the slidefire
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 06-09-2014, 08:37 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Sarasota FL
Posts: 1,151
Likes: 3
Liked 354 Times in 202 Posts
Default

Have a SlideFire that fits my 15-22, 15T, and DPMS AR10. Stock easily moves from rifle to rifle, but I do have to remove the stock hand grip and replace it with the SlideFire block that keeps the springs in place. Works great on all platforms, but I do get occasional FTFs with the 22, which is to be expected. Used mostly with the 22, as the cost is about 4 cents a round, which is much better than 40 cents for the AR15 and 70 cents for the AR10. I use 50 round drum mags, for the 15-22. Easy to load and feeds perfectly.

Bob

Last edited by robkarrob; 06-09-2014 at 08:38 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 06-22-2014, 02:56 AM
mp15.22's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: TX
Posts: 218
Likes: 61
Liked 87 Times in 51 Posts
Default

It never happen unless you can produce a video like mine
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Like Post:
  #8  
Old 06-22-2014, 05:41 AM
Rob1's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Boston UK
Posts: 206
Likes: 294
Liked 144 Times in 82 Posts
Default

And I thought you guys were in the depths of a .22 shortage?

Rob
__________________
Utrinque Paratus
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 06-22-2014, 10:34 AM
grg3d's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 138
Likes: 32
Liked 44 Times in 32 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob1 View Post
And I thought you guys were in the depths of a .22 shortage?

Rob
Its Because of him.....
__________________
M&P15-22ís Tupperware for Guys
Reply With Quote
The Following 3 Users Like Post:
  #10  
Old 06-22-2014, 05:12 PM
Rob1's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Boston UK
Posts: 206
Likes: 294
Liked 144 Times in 82 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by grg3d View Post
Its Because of him.....
I'm thinking that he the reason mags are in such short supply and soooooo expensive over here.

Rob
__________________
Utrinque Paratus
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 07-21-2014, 01:26 AM
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 2
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default Trouble when my scope is on

Whenever i have my 3x9 Bushnell scope with light on my 15-22 my slide fire doesn't seem to work as well. I bought the hole slidefire package with trigger and enhancer. Is anyone else having this problem? Tried several different ammo. Im not useing the 50 drum so i don't think its a weight issue.
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 07-21-2014, 03:46 AM
mp15.22's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: TX
Posts: 218
Likes: 61
Liked 87 Times in 51 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Phatpastor View Post
Whenever i have my 3x9 Bushnell scope with light on my 15-22 my slide fire doesn't seem to work as well. I bought the hole slidefire package with trigger and enhancer. Is anyone else having this problem? Tried several different ammo. Im not useing the 50 drum so i don't think its a weight issue.
I find it that you have to use 1300fps and up bullets to make it dump a full mag. The best is the Aguila that goes 1700fps and the Interceptor at 1470.
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 07-21-2014, 06:42 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Sarasota FL
Posts: 1,151
Likes: 3
Liked 354 Times in 202 Posts
Default

You really have to use a light touch on the rifle, to get it to work. Any weight you add to it, will reduce the already light recoil. Also if you push forward too hard, the recoil can not overcome the heavy push. It is trial and error, until you get it right. I can get it to work perfectly, using 1260 to 1300 fps ammo. I them hand it to a friend, who can not get more than a few rounds fired, and it stops. Almost always it was the trigger did not get reset, too much muscle used pushing forward.

It is just touchy with the 22 caliber, with such low recoil. No problems when using the SlideFire with the 223 or 308 caliber rifles.

Bob

Last edited by robkarrob; 07-21-2014 at 06:58 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 07-21-2014, 08:04 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Baton Rouge, La
Posts: 2,099
Likes: 66
Liked 1,219 Times in 579 Posts
Default

Slide fire on a .22lr = a waste of ammo.

But it's tactic00l to say the least.
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 07-22-2014, 10:41 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 2
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by robkarrob View Post
You really have to use a light touch on the rifle, to get it to work. Any weight you add to it, will reduce the already light recoil. Also if you push forward too hard, the recoil can not overcome the heavy push. It is trial and error, until you get it right. I can get it to work perfectly, using 1260 to 1300 fps ammo. I them hand it to a friend, who can not get more than a few rounds fired, and it stops. Almost always it was the trigger did not get reset, too much muscle used pushing forward.

It is just touchy with the 22 caliber, with such low recoil. No problems when using the SlideFire with the 223 or 308 caliber rifles.




Bob


Im thinking it must be the ammo because my scope cant weigh as much as a full 50 round drums! Trouble seem to be trigger reset. plus im a big guy not very easy on anything. I'll rob a gun shop to find the right ammo a get enough to shoot. Thats most likely my biggest problem find ammo in large enough quantities to actaully get the hang of this thing! It's still a blast shooting 5 -10 round burst! Won $50 shooting a skeet out of the air took three tries but i got it!
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 07-23-2014, 09:02 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Sarasota FL
Posts: 1,151
Likes: 3
Liked 354 Times in 202 Posts
Default

I agree that if you can find more powerful ammo, 1500 fps and higher, it could solve your issue. The problem is finding that ammo, and when you do find it, the price is usually well over 10 cents per round. I check Gunbroker prices often, and the higher power 22 ammo is usually over 20 cents a round, too expensive for me.

Bob
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
Smith & Wesson M&P 15-22 Thread, Slide Fire on my 15-22 in Smith & Wesson Rifles and Shotguns; When I bought my MOE 15-22 in January it was part of a larger plan. First, get the 15-22 and ...
Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
slide fire singlesix The Lounge 1 01-23-2014 11:24 PM
Getting that slide fire to run, the right way gr8jab Smith & Wesson M&P 15-22 24 10-28-2013 05:24 AM
WTB slide fire rphearn WANTED to Buy 0 08-20-2013 01:45 PM
Slide Fire Arthury Smith & Wesson M&P 15-22 1 04-13-2012 03:40 PM

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3
smith-wessonforum.com tested by Norton Internet Security smith-wessonforum.com tested by McAfee Internet Security

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:36 AM.


© S-W Forum, LLC 2000-2013
Smith-WessonForum.com is not affiliated with Smith & Wesson Holding Corporation (NASDAQ Global Select: SWHC)