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Old 09-20-2014, 03:42 AM
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Default 811033 or 811034 : Is the Magpul Worth It?

I'm planning on ordering the MP 15-22 this weekend. I have been planning to get the 811033 since it's $379. The Magpul MOE (811034) is $90. I'm just wondering if some of the features on the Magpul make it worth the extra $. I like the grip much better, but I'm wondering about some of the others.
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Old 09-20-2014, 07:16 AM
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I got the MagPul version. The only part that you can not change yourself is the quick disconnect that is permanently mounted at the rear of the lower receiver, however there are aftermarket solutions to adding a quick disconnect in a similar location.

I already knew that I don't like the less expensive pistol grip and buttstock. I think that the sights on the less expensive version offer a few more features, but they don't flip down out of the way. When I tossed it all in the blender the MagPul version offered a better value for me. If I had purchased the other gun and started changing the grip, stock, and sights I would have spent more money in the long run. If you won't be changing these components, or if you would change them, but not to the MagPul branded parts then your choice would be different.

My 15-22 is still pretty much stock. I have added an inexpensive red dot, and a SlideFire stock kit. I only use the SlideFire when I plan on rapid firing, the rest of the time the original MagPul grip and buttstock stay on the gun. The trigger, and muzzle device that came with the kit are permanent changes and stay on the gun at all times.

Whatever you get don't start changing things right away. Get a few magazines, I have a total of 4, and buy some ammo. Shoot a couple thousand rounds downrange to get a feel for the gun. Once you have some trigger time you will then be better equipped to make decisions about changing things.
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Oh oh. I started a thread a while back on this very topic and it got a little heated. I was a more forward by asking if the MOE was a rip-off. Anyways, it does all come down to what matters. If you're not in a giant rush, keep an eye out on Palmetto State Armory. I just got my 811033 from PSA for $299. That made the choice easy for me. I had MBUS already waiting to go on and I could add the rest if I chose to. For a 22 plinker, those parts are not necessary in my opinion, but I'm just one person.

Other people have priced the parts out and it ends up being a little cheaper to get them on the rifle than part them out yourself.
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Here's the other thread I started. Some interesting views on this.

MOE 15-22 a Rip-Off?
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For me, the decision was made by the flip-down sites. I planned to and did put an inexpensive TruGlo red/green dot sit on mine, and being able to flip the sites down and use it, then, when the battery runs out after I forget to turn it off overnight, I can press two buttons on the iron sights and the flip them up and I can shoot with the iron sights.
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I would think it to be worth it if you like Magpul and want "that" gun pre-built for you like that.

For me I prefer the individuality and I like the other accessories that are out there much better. I personally wouldn't trade mine for a Mapul version in a million years, but to each his own. Did I spend more money on my stuff than I would of for the Magpul version?, hell yes. But I'm also way happier than I would have been with the Magpul version as well.

So there is my food for thought.
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Only you can decide what is worth it. The 811033 is the basic, threaded barrel rifle. It is fine as is, but on the low end of parts. The MOE is middle of the road, using better parts but far from the best. This is fine for those that want a nice gun & don't want to play around with top notch accessories.

I started with the 811033 & slowly replaced with top of the line accessories & parts. My grip & stock are much superior to those on a MOE. I have an AR & I wanted my 15-22 to duplicate it as close as possible. MOE can't do that and if you later decide to upgrade your MOE, then you just wasted your money in paying more for the MOE.

My upgrades cost way more than the basic 811033 & some think that foolish on a "plastic" gun. Each to his own.
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I passed on the MagPul version because what's on it is the bottom of the MagPul line. Their CTR stock is much better and they have better pistol grips, although I prefer the Hogue grip. The flip sights are a non issue for me because I removed the factory iron sights anyway. I have a CQB scope, and since my rifle is a Plinker and not a hunting or combat firearm, I have no need for other sights.
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Best grip IMO is Hogue

You cant buy the Magpul accessories for less individually so as a package it's a deal
It wont make your rifle shoot any better
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This ^ exactly. That's why I would rather buy the rifle with the threaded barrel for as cheap as possible and enjoy it. I can upgrade as I go. I will say this...those iron sights that come on the rifle are amazing. I like them way better than the MBUS. The MBUS win for the cool factor, but the function of the stock irons is far superior.
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Thanks for all the information. I am still a gun newb, and I am trying to learn more about understanding some of the specs. As far as the barrel goes, is there any major difference between the two? I'm still trying to learn about threaded barrels, compensators, and others.

Right now I would have to say I am leaning toward the cheaper version and upgrading along the way as time and money permits.
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There is no difference in the barrel between the two. Both have a threaded barrel, meaning you could swap the flash suppressor at the end should you choose.
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They make a version without the threaded barrel end. I would not recommend that you get that model. Since you confess that you are a gun newb I would say, just get the less expensive version. I already knew that the MagPul hand grip fit me like custom, and that the MagPul buttstock was more comfortable for me.

As I said in my earlier post, buy a few magazines and don't change a thing until you have spent time shooting the gun. I would think at least a few months (6 is a good start) and a couple thousand rounds before you start making changes. Save your money and when you do start making modifications time will help you make good choices.
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I recommend purchasing the standard 15-22 and adding the replacement parts yourself. I personally found the magpul butt stock too short for my liking. I will be replacing it in the very near future with a Mission First Minimalist buttstock. Other than the buttstock, I find that all the other non Magpul accessories, suit me just fine, based on using a friends standard model.
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I'm planning on ordering the MP 15-22 this weekend. I have been planning to get the 811033 since it's $379. The Magpul MOE (811034) is $90. I'm just wondering if some of the features on the Magpul make it worth the extra $. I like the grip much better, but I'm wondering about some of the others.
This was kind of beat to death in the other thread mentioned, but basically, if you know you want the Magpul accessories, the Magpul version 15-22 is a great deal over buying all the parts seperately afterwards.

If you don't want the Magpul accessories, then obviously no matter how good a deal it is if you wind up replacing those parts it's a waste of money.

Same applies to the AR's like the VTAC II. Incredible deal for what you get, but if you don't want those specific parts, then not so much.
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