By throw away, I mean something that is not going to be inherited by you kids or grandkids 50 years from now because it would be long broken or worn?
Never fired one, and I'm sure they are fun, but most of this "airsoftish" stuff alot of makers are coming out with doesn't look to be as durable as the 22's of old.

With the proper care it will be around forever. Quality stuff


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Well at least the 1522 frame will not go rusty like weapons of

old .........and at around $1100 here in England needs to be

lovingly cared for

keith

shoot one. you'll change your "airsoftish" idea on it real quick. then shoot a mossberg 715t. you'll realize that there are "airsoftish" ar styled .22lrs

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It's got a Lifetime warranty.

To many people the cost of a 15-22 is significant. And I also believe most on this site take proper care of all their guns.

With care the 15-22 can last a long time, however it won't last forever.

On both the 15-22 and a traditional AR the barrel won't last forever. Both are replaceable, but the AR has the advantage of barrels being ubiquitous and easily replaced by owners without requiring a gunsmith. The barrel on the 15-22 can be replaced by an owner, but replacement barrels are no where near as common or as easy to get.

The bolt carrier group on an AR will eventually need replacing, as will the bolt on a 15-22. As with the barrel, the AR has the advantage of easy parts availability for the bolt and bolt carrier group.

I built my AR and can replace every part on it when those parts wear out. I can also replace the parts on a 15-22, but some parts are held close by Smith & Wesson. This just makes things tougher for the long term life of the 15-22.

I also have a few Remington shotguns. These guns will outlast my 15-22, but parts will still eventually wear out and need replacing. For the 870 parts are easily available and replacing them is about as easy as it gets. A better analogy might be my Glock pistols. The Glock pistols have a polymer frame somewhat analogous to the polymer upper and lower on the 15-22. In both cases the long term life of these components looks good, but in both cases when these wear out it will likely signal the end of the life of that specific gun. Replacing them will likely be more trouble and at greater cost than simply retiring the gun and getting something new.

Certainly with care the 15-22, 870, traditional AR Rifle, and Glock will last a very long time, but of these guns I have mentioned the 870 and the AR are the ones with the clear advantage due to parts availability and ease of replacement of those parts.

If you only shoot a couple hundred rounds a year then the gun should be able to be passed to your heirs. If you shoot several thousand rounds a year and do that for decades then your heirs will get a wall hanger.

Got my 15-22 in 2009. Over 40k rounds through it so far. No signs of any significant wear.

Throw away? From a utility perspective, no. It will likely be serviceable longer than the owner will live.

From an economic perspective, sure. Put a calculator on 40k rounds of .22LR. Then look at Palmetto selling 15-22s for $299.

No I do not consider it to be a throwaway.



I don't want to get a violation so that is all I will say,

They'll probably last as long as an original Colt SAA and probably be just as useful in 100 years.

870 and AR clear advantage? You mentioned Glock. Have you seen the plethora of Glock parts and accessories? You can just about turn your Glock into a motorcycle now days!! Next to the 1911 the Glock is the most accessorized handgun

By the time a 15-22 needs a bolt or barrel replacement we will all likely
be DEAD. My CBC Nylon 66 (Generic clone of the Remington Nylon66)
which was made VERY cheaply compared to a 15-22 had many, many,
many tens of thousands of rounds through it. I sold it back when I
brought my 15-22 home and I am confident the new owner's son will
be shooting it after I'm gone.

Ordered a 15-22 today to replace my 9422 that I'll have to sell to pacify wife who doesn't think I need another gun. Really eager to get my hands on it.

I have two Glocks, and yes, parts are readily available. However, when the time comes that the polymer frame wears out that will signal the useful end to that firearm. That won't happen for a long time, but it will eventually happen if you shoot enough.

The steel receiver on the 870 will take a very high round count to wear out and the AR has enough interchangeable parts that even if the lower wears out all of the other parts could just be used with a replacement lower and the net result for me would be that I would consider the gun to be repaired not replaced even if the ATF might think otherwise.

Frames can be just as easily replaced as the lower on the AR. Just put the slide and all its parts on a new frame. To the ATF it's still the same thing though.

Not a throwaway at all. Just like the 10/22 aftermarket parts are becoming more available. I know of a company working on some aftermarket barrels for the 15-22 in at least 2 configurations of heavy barrel and fluted.
There is not much to go wrong with these rifles. I have never heard of a 22 bolt breaking or "going bad" or even needing to be replaced.

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I'm no metallurgist but I'm willing to bet no 15-22 barrel will ever be "shot out". The steel used in it is far superior to steel from even a couple of decades ago and unless you do mag dumps all the time it simply won't get hot enough or have enough wear on it to change it much.

A Colt SAA or Mosin may be "ok" to still shoot over 100 years later but I'm willing to bet most aren't ok to shoot with modern ammo unless they have been unissued or in storage for ages after a rebuild.

Not hardly.

No.

And double NO, since my 15-22 is on a form 1.

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Yes, throw it away in my garbage can please.

Negative. It's a quality rifle that was purpose built to be an AR that shoots 22. It's not cosmetic dressing of an existing rifle. Makes a big difference.

I believe at the rate 15-22s are selling, pretty soon, maybe 4 or 5 years, we'll be able to find spare parts just as easy as a Glock or a Remy 870. There is no way to stop the 15-22 frenzie.

I am suppose I am a bit ambivalent about the AR line of .22 cal rifles. My Ruger mark IV I love to shoot. And would like to have a good target rifle in .22 cal. I like Smith and Wesson and would love to see something in a target frame that was seated, with a floated barrel and a set trigger. Don't get me wrong, I have worn out my share of tube fed .22 cal. rifles and I think the AR frame is great for punkers. However, I don't really care for spraying the country side with led and terrorizing the local fauna. There is something about being able to put five rounds in the center x at a hundred yards and put a dime over hole afterword's. That just can't be accomplished with an AR type rifle. Will they survive? Not sure, right now they remind me of the Radio Shack 40 channel CB radio. And when the novelty wears off you will probably be able to find them at your local pawn shop for $75.00 bucks a pop.

have you ever shot one? do you have one? it is not what you seem to think that it is.

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I suspect the vast majority of 15-22s will be around and passed down to future generations long after we are gone.

The only "throwaway" gun that comes to mind is the .45 ACP Liberator, but recently a company has started to make them again, so look for those to be handed down also .

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SWCA LM 2023, SWHF 220

If you treat it like trash, it will turn into trash. It's really up to the user how long any gun lasts. Very few of us actually shoot enough to wear a gun out(except for Chattanooga Phil).

My Mom gave Dad a brand new Winchester 62 in 1939. I shot the gun a lot when I was a kid and Dad gave it to me a few years before he passed. It was ruined due to poor storage and no care. I found it leaning in the corner of a wet white-washed basement. I may restore it for sentimental reasons, but the cost will exceed value.

Poor storage and care turn guns into throw-aways.

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SWCA 1821

So much incorrect information in your post.

Mine will be because I plan to wear it out.

Good luck doing that in your lifetime. Maybe if you run a quarter million rounds through it ...

You must have the S&W M&P 15-22 confused with one of those cute little 22s dressed up like an AR from Mossberg or Umarex.

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Molon Labe!

like I said......

If I can find enough ammo that is.

Well I don't know about 5 shot dime size hundred yard groups with a 22lr, but I do know that I can put 25 22lr rounds, reload and put another 25 22lr rounds into a nice 3" group at a hundred yards off a bench in less than a minute with very little effort with my 15/22 and if I really tried I might get another 25 in that group in the same time, but I haven't tried that yet. My S&W 15/22 is not a throw away for sure. just ask my grandson.

For me the 15-22 was just something to train myself and the wife and kids on before stepping up to a real AR15. I've only been to an indoor shooting range once so far and was comfortable with the "platform" after about two magazines (50 rounds) but I'm already looking at AR15s to buy. I only fired an M-16 twice while in the Air Force and it was nothing so I know that an AR15 won't be a big deal. But I figured that MAYBE my wife and kids could benefit from the 15-22 so that's why I bought it first. It's definitely fun to shoot and the lack of recoil will be great for the kids. I don't really have any long term plans for it. I'm definitely not going to waste any time and money on adding bells and whistles such as (faux suppressors and what not ) to it to make it look like a real AR15. If the hobby doesn't stick with anyone else in the family then I might try and trade it towards an AR15. But even with the current prices of 22LR it might be worth keeping it as a cheaper alternative to the 5.56/.223 ammo.

That's a good plan, you don't want to go about surprising your faux.

Don't ya just hate it when that happenes?

They make a real mess after being suprised!

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Molon Labe!

10's of thousands of rounds through mine with fewer malfunctions than I can count on my fingers and toes... definitely not a throw away.

This is sorta like asking if you consider the Boeing 787 Dreamliner throw away because it is made of plastic......

KBK

How about we have a contest to see who can ware out their 15-22 first. Ok everyone, starting now shoot as much as you can. I will check back and see how everyone is doing in 25 years.

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I love my S&W's but the company is just like politicians, they tell you what you want to hear till they get your money but when it is time for them to live up to their promises it is different. New S&W's have the life time warranty till a new owner comes along. I speak from experience because my model 19 is considered too old by the factory for them to consider it under warranty.

Let the fun begin!

* puts the Slidefire back on her favorite 10-22*

A "real" AR15? You do know that most "AR" 15's are actually something else, right? The M&P15-22 is a real "AR" type rifle, in .22.r.
It has a Polymer receiver. So do some in .223 Remington.
Like some other posters have mentioned, there are some "AR" style .22's that are most definitely NOT actual "AR" style rifles. The "Colt" (Umarex) and the Mossberg come to mind. I've sold them both to customers, and I can't believe they didn't bring them back. The M&P is a keeper.

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I'm curious about the reasoning that you are using for your post, I believe that you are implying that because the 15-22 is mainly made out of polymer is not as durable as old .22 rifles. Well lets talk about Glock for a second and how when it hit the market people freak out a out a gun made out of plastic and how was not going to be as durable comparing to the all steel guns, personally I have a few thousand rounds through my 15-22 and as matter a fact is getting better as now it's less picky about ammo as it was when new. I highly doubt that I have enough money to spen on ammo and mags to wear out my 15-22.

I just want to let everybody that I am doing my part in finding out just how long the 15-22 will last. I travel allot and I don't have a backyard range but I shoot when I can. So far I have 4,235 rounds through her and have about 6,000 rounds just waiting for their turn.

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Mine has something close to 20k through it ...

Notice much wear?

I haven't. I still use the original mags.

No noticeable wear on anything. That 20k is primarily through a dozen 25-rounders with a few 10-round shorts thrown in. I run a bore snake through the barrel every 1k or so and clean the bolt face at the same time. I blow out the lower and the FCG with 90 psi air, too.

I have a High Standard Trophy Supramatic with something close to 100k through the barrel and it still does a 25-yard, 10-shot group of an inch or so from a machine rest.

.22 rifles don't really wear out,it's very hard to do so...... plus most people won't be able to put that many rounds through it.

The gun is plastic but .22 doesn't put much stress on parts, so they last longer. Also, the lower receiver takes so little stress that Bushmaster and others make lowers for .223 AR's out of polymer and some private gun owners have made AR lowers out of wood.

I don't have a 15-22 but I have a 20+ year old Ruger 10/22 that has a zillion rounds though it, that will still hit a groundhog at 100 yards.

A good start!

Majorik, that is amazing! So I just have gotta ask, where did you get 20,000 rounds of 22?

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