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Old 12-21-2015, 08:10 PM
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Long time lurker and 15-22 owner, first time poster.

Is there anyone out there making 15-22 barrels? I'm looking for a 12" standard profile barrel. I live in Canada, and because of our stupid laws I can't cut the stock barrel to 12", but I can install a barrel of that length if it was originally manufactured to that length. Yes, I know it doesn't make sense, but it's a gun law so it doesn't have to.

Anyone out there have any leads?
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Yep Im in Calgary. I had a 10" barrel made.
Contact me for info and pics please!
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Yep Im in Calgary. I had a 10" barrel made.
Contact me for info and pics please!
i think Neal just shortened a standard barrel for you as he does not make any

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Correct, legal patant reasons.
Buys barrels and shortens them.
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Old 12-25-2015, 10:32 AM
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I'm confused. Since the barrels are originally manufactured to 16" and Neal or someone else cuts them to a shorter length, how does that meet the Canadian Law requirement that they have to be "originally manufactured to that length"? Or is it just that the firearms owner can not shorten their own barrel but have someone else cut another barrel and legally install it.
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Correct, legal patant reasons.
Buys barrels and shortens them.
There is a patent (patant?) on S&W's 15-22 barrel?

The patent was posted here a few years ago and there wasn't a claim made on the barrel as being unique...

Lightweight, low cost semi-automatic rifle Patent (Patent # 8,141,287 issued March 27, 2012) - Justia Patents Database

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I'm confused. Since the barrels are originally manufactured to 16" and Neal or someone else cuts them to a shorter length, how does that meet the Canadian Law requirement that they have to be "originally manufactured to that length"? Or is it just that the firearms owner can not shorten their own barrel but have someone else cut another barrel and legally install it.
Nope, you're correct to question this. Cutting the original barrel, regardless of who does it or where it's done would make the rifle prohibited in Canada. The law is very clear in that the barrel has to be manufactured to that length, not altered:
CC s. 84(1) "prohibited firearm" (d): If the barrel has been SHORTENED to less than 18"/457mm, after leaving the factory, "by sawing, cutting or ANY other alteration or modification" that forces the firearm into the "prohibited firearm" class.

We see this all the time in Canada with 10-22s. There are a few manufactures that make short barrels (8", 10", 12", etc). These are perfectly legal and don't change the classification of the firearm (so long as the overall length remains >26"), but if you cut your 16" barrel down to those same lengths the firearm becomes prohibited. This is one of those stupid laws where the ends are the same, but the means to get to those ends are different, with one being perfectly legal and the other potentially landing you in jail.

I went back and forth with Neil a few times and was perfectly clear that the barrel need to be manufactured, not just altered. Rules for the UK are obviously different than Canada, and cutting may be permitted there, but not in Canada. Again, the barrel must be MANUFACTURED, not ALTERED.

Airwolf - Was your barrel specifically made for you (ie, manufactured)? Or was it just altered (ie, cut)?
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