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Old 12-08-2016, 06:16 PM
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Having put a NDZ sbr on my 15-22 sport i noticed a

fair amount of side movement on the lever

my cure was to put a 4mm ss plain washer either

side of the lever,this has now cured all the side movement





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Old 12-08-2016, 07:33 PM
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Nice. Although I've seen this fix posted before, and of course, I didn't make note of the size washer used.
Wanting to address this same issue on my rifle. So this was a timely post. Thanks trebor127
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Just got and installed my NDZ SBR (at last) and have noticed the same thing. Where did you get the washers and how easy it is to install them?
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Any good hardware store should have what you need. And the job is straightforward, and only takes a couple of minutes. But the first time I tried it, I found that the washers were too thick, making the bolt release too tight. So I had to make the washers thinner, regular plated washers probably wouldn't be suitable, so I used brass. Turned out great.
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Neat fix,

I hadn't noticed the play before. Ill need to go look at mine now....
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When you say '4mm' washer i'm presuming you're referring to the full diameter of the washer. All the online sources i've looked at only advertise the diameter of the hole, not the overall diameter. Can you tell me what the diameter of the hole in your washers/diameter of the roll pin is please, i'm guessing around 2mm but as the guns are US made i'm guessing it'll be an imperial measurement.
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Ok you guys here in England

PM me your addresses and i will post you out a couple....

They are stainless steel,i will have to check the hole dia

as i think the pins are 3/32" dia..i had to adjust the thickness

by .002"....this is easy by using a small needle file and just

rub the washer using the tip of your index finger on the

file.....(just make sure the washer is between your finger and

the file when you finish rubbing HAHA...you will see)

You will need a small punch maybe 2mm dia and a small

toffee weight type hammer......the roll pin is not to

tight

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Guys i forgot to add that you will need to borrow your mrs

tweezers unless you have your own haha to slide in the

washers.

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Keith,

That's a great idea but I have to ask, when will you be sending my tweezers back?

I really need to sort my nasal hair soonest !!!

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I have my own tweezers, angled tweezers, which i use to feed crickets to 'Ghost' my Praying Mantis, when she is too lazy to catch food for herself. Will these do or do you need to use tacti-tweezers?
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Have to be Matt black tacti tweezers, available from your friendly neighborhood tacticool22 shop site $25

Or you could go for the top of the line Magpul tweezers with storage pocket and safety lanyard. Available in Black, FDE OG or Field Green. $75 apiece.

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But for the ultimate mall ninja your going to want the Mike's tactical tweezers with built in IR Laser and Dave's Defense CREE High Lumen Auto Strober. $350.....(with mail in $50 rebate)
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But for the ultimate mall ninja your going to want the Mike's tactical tweezers with built in IR Laser and Dave's Defense CREE High Lumen Auto Strober. $350.....(with mail in $50 rebate)
Sound like a steal at that price. Lmao

If I PayPal you the funds ? You good with posting in ????

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Teflon washers work great , but it doesn't matter , as soon as you lay the rifle down the tab releases.
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Have to be Matt black tacti tweezers, available from your friendly neighborhood tacticool22 shop site $25

Or you could go for the top of the line Magpul tweezers with storage pocket and safety lanyard. Available in Black, FDE OG or Field Green. $75 apiece.

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Rob i am on the look out for a genuine "Snody" tactical

tweezer........but mine when i find it won't be black.....

Titanium Combat Tweezer by Mike Snody

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So, what we are saying here is that the sbr is manufactured with the width of two washers out of tolerance? Pretty sad if you ask me...
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^^^ Mine seems fine but maybe with a bit of tinkering it feels better I havent tried this yet but I am very happy so far.
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So, what we are saying here is that the sbr is manufactured with the width of two washers out of tolerance? Pretty sad if you ask me...
Well, no one did, but as it's an open forum feel free to jump in with the negative vibes.


The fix is for a minor issue that some feel could be better.

Like a trigger swap, a stock change or any other modification or improvement that people make.

Not SAD just making it better or improving the experience.

Isn't it great that people take the time to share experience and help others to make things better for themselves too.

Or is that just me being too liberal in my thinking??????

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Well, no one did, but as it's an open forum feel free to jump in with the negative vibes.

Opinions, like ***** holes and and excuses are the same everywhere.

Every body got one.

The fix is for a minor issue that some feel could be better.

Like a trigger swap, a stock change or any other modification or improvement that people make.

Not SAD just making it better or improving the experience.

Isn't it great that people take the time to share experience and help others to make things better for themselves too.

Or is that just me being too liberal in my thinking??????

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Didn't mean to offend. Improvements and tweaking are great. But seriously, that is pretty far out of tolerance for the part. Close to 1/8".
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Seeing as the SBR just attaches to the bolt release, it would have nothing to do with the manufacturing specs or tolerance of the SBR and everything to do with the play in the factory bolt release catch.

Trebor127, kind of stated that in the title of the thread.

So the moral of the story here is read before you decide to comment. Also if the fix works for the price of a couple of washers, then what is the big deal?

Personally i cannot recall ever noticing this particular problem on my 15-22, i will be taking her out to the range tonight and if, after noticing it and it bugs me, then i'll probably take the nice man up on his offer, he already has my postal address
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Re read the thread with regards the thickness of the washer.....

No offence taken, just thought I would mention it is all

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Rob i am on the look out for a genuine "Snody" tactical

tweezer........but mine when i find it won't be black.....

Titanium Combat Tweezer by Mike Snody

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Bejaaaaaaazus I was taking the pi$$ but clearly some one has been serious at some point about tweezers.

Cheap at twice the price me thinks..... NOT!!!!

Even at a discount price of $200..... have to say.... REALLY!!!!!!!!!

What on earth would you need to pull that would require that piece of massive overengineering and waste some perfectly good Titanium.....

I'm thinking maybe a spent depleted Uranium Sabot Round...

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GM remember "walls have ears"

I think Rob must have tooth ache

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