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Old 02-15-2018, 11:16 PM
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I have zero issues when using the 10-rd mags with the 15-22, no matter the ammo brand or type.

But when using the 25-rd mags I frequently gets cartridges jamming up in the mag and not rising to the feed lips. I think it might be partially due to the type of ammo, or specifically the bullet shape. Also, it seems to work better if I carefully align the rims when loading the mag. But after jamming several times I gave up experimenting and have just been using the 10-rounders.

For sighting in loads from the bench the 10-rd mags are perfect. But when I take the family to the gravel pit for plinking it would be nice to be able to have several loaded 25-rd mags and not have to reload them so many times like I do with the 10-rd ones.

Do you all get similar cartridge jams in the 25-rd mags, or is this just me? I don't see much discussion about this and for me it is the only frustration I have with the 15-22. Any tips on how to avoid it? Ammo to avoid? Loading technique that is not super tedious?
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Old 02-15-2018, 11:58 PM
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I never have any trouble with 25 round magazines. They always work flawlessly for me.

Follow the instructions in the manual and make sure you Stagger the rounds. Very important!!!

From the manual on loading....

" • Orient the magazine as shown (Figs. 13 & 14). Hold the follower down using the loading assist button on each side of the magazine. Hold the follower down only far enough to load one round at a time to maintain cartridge alignment. Feed each round into the magazine until it is held by the magazine lips and is against the rear of the magazine. Place the next round on top of the previous round and repeat until the desired number is loaded. Do not attempt to load your magazine beyond its capacity."
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Old 02-16-2018, 12:47 AM
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If you’re using Remington ammo, it’s notorious for having ’loose’ bullets that might cause feeding issues. The manual even recommends not using this brand of ammo. Your mileage may vary however. Also, when using 25 rounders, make sure the rounds are staggered. I’ve hand loaded mags where they aren’t perfectly staggered but never had an issue (typically). A loader may be helpful in this regard.
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Old 02-16-2018, 12:57 AM
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Hilljak has a good loader for the M&P 15-22

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Old 02-16-2018, 01:22 AM
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The ONLY solution to your problem is the McFadden Lightnin loader. It loads the 15-22 perfectly and very quick. It stops the problems you are describing.

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Old 02-16-2018, 01:29 AM
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Keep the mag lightly lubricated and this should correct your problem.
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Old 02-16-2018, 01:30 AM
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I have zero issues when using the 10-rd mags with the 15-22, no matter the ammo brand or type.
Loading technique that is not super tedious?
As stated above, tilt the mag back, pull down the plunger, and load them so each rim is above the last. I have fired thousands of fed bulk, winchester, CCI with out problems through at least 15 different mags. I have not used any remington so I can not comment. Be Safe,
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Old 02-16-2018, 08:53 AM
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No issues with the 25-round magazines. I run only the CCI AR Tactical and recently some CCI Copper-22 (the 21gr stuff).
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Old 02-16-2018, 10:23 AM
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No problems ever with that issue - IF you follow the loading instructions in the manual. Pull down on the loading buttons, slide one round in, then let go of the loading buttons. Repeat the process for subsequent rounds.

If you try to hold the buttons down constantly while shoving rounds into the magazine you will have problems. If for some reason you can't follow the instructions get yourself one of the McFadden loaders. I have one. It works well, but with all the preparation it takes to load and operate it, it really isn't much faster than loading by hand.
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Old 02-16-2018, 12:09 PM
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As others have said, keeping the rds staggered is CRITICAL. I have 25 and 10 rd mags. They both run reliably as long as the rds are staggered. The 25s are more difficult to load. 25 chances to screw up the stagger instead of just 10...
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Old 02-16-2018, 07:46 PM
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As others have said, keeping the rds staggered is CRITICAL. I have 25 and 10 rd mags. They both run reliably as long as the rds are staggered. The 25s are more difficult to load. 25 chances to screw up the stagger instead of just 10...
OK, thanks guys for the info about staggering the rounds. I see when I load it sometimes rounds will stack on top of each other rather than staggering left-right. I'm heading to the range next weekend so will load up a bunch of mags with staggered rounds and see how it works.

I'm not sure using the assist button is much help. It seems too easy to pull down a little too much and then they stack sometimes. I'm going to try just pushing them all down for several mags and see if that aligns them more consistently. Hoping something simple like this solves the problem. Many thanks for your help!
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Old 02-16-2018, 08:04 PM
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The ONLY solution to your problem is the McFadden Lightnin loader. It loads the 15-22 perfectly and very quick. It stops the problems you are describing.

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OK, thanks guys for the info about staggering the rounds. I see when I load it sometimes rounds will stack on top of each other rather than staggering left-right. I'm heading to the range next weekend so will load up a bunch of mags with staggered rounds and see how it works.

I'm not sure using the assist button is much help. It seems too easy to pull down a little too much and then they stack sometimes. I'm going to try just pushing them all down for several mags and see if that aligns them more consistently. Hoping something simple like this solves the problem. Many thanks for your help!
Just pull down the follower enough so there is just enough room for the round. Let go so the round hits the feed lips. Then pull down again and slip in another round. Rinse and repeat until full.

I have been using my 25 rounds magazines for 5 years and thousands and thousands of rounds of every brand and I have never had any rounds jam in the magazine. In fact I have only had maybe 10 malfunctions of any kind in my rifle.

The reason you have to stagger the rounds is because of the rim of the cartridge does not allow them to stack on top of each other well. If the rim is on top of the rim, it causes the tip of the bullet to tilt down. With the rounds tilted downward they don't feed up to the lips in proper alignment.

The more rounds you put directly on top of each other magnifies the tilt. This is probably why you don't have the problem with the ten round magazines. (you should stagger the rounds in them too).

Let us know how your range trip goes.

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I'm not sure using the assist button is much help. It seems too easy to pull down a little too much...
It does help but use it as an ASSIST button. Pull down on it just enough to make it easier to insert rds. I use the assist button to assist even with the McFadden Loader.
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I have zero issues when using the 10-rd mags with the 15-22, no matter the ammo brand or type.

But when using the 25-rd mags I frequently gets cartridges jamming up in the mag and not rising to the feed lips. I think it might be partially due to the type of ammo, or specifically the bullet shape. Also, it seems to work better if I carefully align the rims when loading the mag. But after jamming several times I gave up experimenting and have just been using the 10-rounders.

For sighting in loads from the bench the 10-rd mags are perfect. But when I take the family to the gravel pit for plinking it would be nice to be able to have several loaded 25-rd mags and not have to reload them so many times like I do with the 10-rd ones.

Do you all get similar cartridge jams in the 25-rd mags, or is this just me? I don't see much discussion about this and for me it is the only frustration I have with the 15-22. Any tips on how to avoid it? Ammo to avoid? Loading technique that is not super tedious?
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Old 02-19-2018, 09:30 AM
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The reason you have to stagger the rounds is because of the rim of the cartridge does not allow them to stack on top of each other well. If the rim is on top of the rim, it causes the tip of the bullet to tilt down. With the rounds tilted downward they don't feed up to the lips in proper alignment.

The more rounds you put directly on top of each other magnifies the tilt. This is probably why you don't have the problem with the ten round magazines. (you should stagger the rounds in them too).

Let us know how your range trip goes.

Good luck and good shooting.
OK, that is EXACTLY what happens to me. When the mag jams the top round's tip is tilted down and won't feed. I loaded up four mags with the instructions you all gave me and I am anxious to try them out this coming Sunday. I will let my grandson do most of the shooting with these mags so it will be third party tested!

Thanks for your patient and detailed tips (even a video!). I love this little rifle and the 25-rd mag jams were the only irritation about it. Hopefully this resolves the issue and I can finally stock up on more 25-rdrs so I can preload for an entire range session.

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Never pull the follower down so there is no tension on the rounds.
Never hold, touch or rest the mag on on aything while shooting.
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Keep the mag lightly lubricated and this should correct your problem.
What kind of lube does one recommend that one use in ones magazine? Just one-dering
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I pretty much do as the video shows but I pull down just a hair more requiring no pressure on the rounds during loading. Just a habit and always works fine. Muscle memory.
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I'm good on boolet stuffing technique, Bama.

BUT...what the heck do I lube the magazine with? and should I? Sounds like something you wouldnt want your mom to catch you doing!
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What kind of lube does one recommend that one use in ones magazine? Just one-dering
None. Especially if you leave your magazines loaded . . .
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Magazines are always at the ready. I thought someone had come with a new special application magazine lube for us to spend our money on...maybe
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Makes me smile to see people asking for a fix to a non existent problem.

Why would you need to “lube” a self lubricating magazine ?

Which is generally what a wire sprung magazine is.

A good idea, oil a spring that needs no oil, especially when there is a full length open window to allow all the crud in the world in to the Mag to then STICK to the spring!!

Good drills. Brilliant idea. Oh, wait guys, my mags keep misfeeding, any ideas as to why????

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Keep them mags clean AND dry.

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First I ever heard of it http://smith-wessonforum.com/139931113-post6.html Seems I'm the only one to want an explanation or expoundation? Could be some kind of teflon miracle solution to a problem we didn't know we had.

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I have lightly lubed magazines (1911s and ARs) after removal of springs and a thorough cleaning with brake cleaner, etc, however, I spent even more time wiping their interior with a rag after a very light oiling (spring also) so that only a barely discernible film remained. This is a rare occurrence for me and has only taken place in coastal environments (salt water, air, etc). Other than that, they've always functioned fine dry and only blown out (canned air) and wiped down on the exterior once in a while. Same "lube job" with polymer magazines. In a non-sand / fine grit environment I don't see a very light lubing being detrimental to overall magazine / weapon function though I see little to no benefit.

With all that said I run firearms wet historically. Not stupid, dripping wet but what people would consider wet. No doubt successive top rounds in magazines have likely gotten a little damp but I've never experienced a feed problem or misfire due to that. Combat weapons go through absolute hell from dryer than dry to big squirts of lube being applied (poured) to the bolts. Regarding the little .22lr rifles, mine (10/22 and 15-22) have done well run a little wet. My .22lr magazines have never been lubed, cleaned, nothing. The 10/22 has been cleaned twice now in the past year or so. Bought it new in the late 80s and it literally has thousands upon thousands of rounds through it. I recall one misfire and one failure to feed. Parts still appear top notch, accuracy hasn't dropped, blah, blah, blah.

For the most part, the average Joe firearm is tough as nails and will usually give you a hint or two if it needs cleaning. That's my experience though, less the Ruger, I'm borderline ocd when it comes to cleaning firearms. It was drilled into me in boot camp decades ago and it kind of stuck with me. I no longer "Drop and give me 50!". I just clean my weapons very well.
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My S&W 25 round mags function as they should when you stagger the rounds in the magazines.
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My S&W 25 round mags function as they should when you stagger the rounds in the magazines.
I have 6 and they run flawlessly; dry. Reckon people really do pull the helper down and just start dumping rounds in? Surely not.
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I had an issue with some new mags with the rounds hanging and not coming up. I took the mags apart cleaned and reassembled problem went away. I don't know what but there was some type of residue in the new mags that caused problems. As stated in post 12 the Mcfadden Lightnin Loader is all you need to properly load 15-22 mags. I shoot steel challenge and load all my 15-22 mags with the lightnin loader with no problems. The only down side to the loader is the amount of ammo you shoot because it only takes about ten seconds to re load a 25 rd mag.
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The McFadden works well though I never use it anymore. Grandson likes using it is the only reason it doesn't collect dust.
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Old 08-08-2018, 09:25 PM
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I have zero issues when using the 10-rd mags with the 15-22, no matter the ammo brand or type.

But when using the 25-rd mags I frequently gets cartridges jamming up in the mag and not rising to the feed lips. I think it might be partially due to the type of ammo, or specifically the bullet shape. Also, it seems to work better if I carefully align the rims when loading the mag. But after jamming several times I gave up experimenting and have just been using the 10-rounders.

For sighting in loads from the bench the 10-rd mags are perfect. But when I take the family to the gravel pit for plinking it would be nice to be able to have several loaded 25-rd mags and not have to reload them so many times like I do with the 10-rd ones.

Do you all get similar cartridge jams in the 25-rd mags, or is this just me? I don't see much discussion about this and for me it is the only frustration I have with the 15-22. Any tips on how to avoid it? Ammo to avoid? Loading technique that is not super tedious?
WELCOME TO THE FORUM, Pilgrim...(AND NO, I'M NOT JOHN WAYNE).....

I WOULD LOAD THE MAGS A FEW ROUNDS SHY OF FULL---22 OR 23 ROUNDS SHOULD DO IT.....

GRASP THE MAG AT THE CLOSED END, WITH THE BULLETS FACING IN TOWARD THE PALM OF THAT HAND......

NOW SWING THE MAG IN AN ARC, STRIKING THE PRIMER SIDE OF THE MAG SHARPLY INTO THE PALM OF YOUR OTHER HAND. THAT WILL FORCE THE ROUNDS FULLY REARWARD IN THE MAG.....

TRY THAT OUT, AND GIVE US A REPORT.....
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I just kinda dump the rounds in myself. . . Like several other people have said, I do pull the assist button down a little just to take the pressure off the rounds - and then I just drop them in one by one - I don't try to stagger them or anything - but they mostly do stagger by themselves. I load the full 25 rounds. I have nine of the 25 round magazines and eight of the 10 rounders - I rarely have any misfeeds and I run all different types of ammo. CCI, Remington, Federal, etc. My rifle runs anything. The only suggestion I may have for the original poster is you might try holding the magazine on a different angle when you load the magazine - it just might affect how the rounds nestle themselves. I assume you have already tried cleaning the rifle and the magazines.
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Old 08-30-2018, 06:46 PM
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The ONLY solution to your problem is the McFadden Lightnin loader. It loads the 15-22 perfectly and very quick. It stops the problems you are describing.

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Listen to this guy! That loader is awesome and lightnin' quick.

I had the same issue as you and it was caused by me loading the mags incorrectly. I wasn't staggering the bullets.
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Don’t feel bad, I needed to learn this one the hard way too. I’m 98% a revolver guy, and the few .22 auto loaders I do have never offered up hint of a problem when I’ve loaded them by holding the magazine assist down and dropping the bullets in. Did the same thing with the 15-22 and had a miserable first couple of range sessions. Went back, read the manual, and the problem has never been an issue since. Also bought the McFadden loader and the daughters and grandkids absolutely love it. Only problem I have now is ammo supply. I’ve run most any kind of ammo I can get my hands on, including thousand and thousands of Remington Goldens and Federal AutoMatch without an issue. Sure am glad I convinced myself to get one “o dem ar-kinda guns”. This is such a sweet little gun to shoot that I’ve decided to purchase one for each grandkid.

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The ONLY solution to your problem is the McFadden Lightnin loader. It loads the 15-22 perfectly and very quick. It stops the problems you are describing.

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Yep!! What he said.
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Old 09-01-2018, 09:18 AM
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Just pull down the follower enough so there is just enough room for the round. Let go so the round hits the feed lips. Then pull down again and slip in another round. Rinse and repeat until full.

I have been using my 25 rounds magazines for 5 years and thousands and thousands of rounds of every brand and I have never had any rounds jam in the magazine. In fact I have only had maybe 10 malfunctions of any kind in my rifle.

The reason you have to stagger the rounds is because of the rim of the cartridge does not allow them to stack on top of each other well. If the rim is on top of the rim, it causes the tip of the bullet to tilt down. With the rounds tilted downward they don't feed up to the lips in proper alignment.

The more rounds you put directly on top of each other magnifies the tilt. This is probably why you don't have the problem with the ten round magazines. (you should stagger the rounds in them too).

Let us know how your range trip goes.

Good luck and good shooting.
Take your time and load magazines per manual. If you follow the instructions above the rounds will automatically stagger.Would
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Old 09-01-2018, 09:21 AM
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Just pull down the follower enough so there is just enough room for the round. Let go so the round hits the feed lips. Then pull down again and slip in another round. Rinse and repeat until full.

I have been using my 25 rounds magazines for 5 years and thousands and thousands of rounds of every brand and I have never had any rounds jam in the magazine. In fact I have only had maybe 10 malfunctions of any kind in my rifle.

The reason you have to stagger the rounds is because of the rim of the cartridge does not allow them to stack on top of each other well. If the rim is on top of the rim, it causes the tip of the bullet to tilt down. With the rounds tilted downward they don't feed up to the lips in proper alignment.

The more rounds you put directly on top of each other magnifies the tilt. This is probably why you don't have the problem with the ten round magazines. (you should stagger the rounds in them too).

Let us know how your range trip goes.

Good luck and good shooting.
Take your time and load magazines per manual. If you follow the instructions above the rounds will automatically stagger. Never a problem with mine and have had for five years. Buy some extra mags and preload before going to range and you won't need to rush reloading.
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I've never had trouble w/the 25 rd mags, I run 10 of them for steel shoots. I also would not oil them,but when I do clean them I take them apart and wash w/soapy water then blow them out and spray them down w/Armorall. Don't know if that helps but it never hurt.
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