UK based shooters

Talisman · #51 06-01-2019, 12:02 PM

As title applied for another slot on fac. Gonna purchase an MP 15/22 Sport SL.
Intend to use for LSR along with my CZ455. Thought about a 10/22 but fancy something different that's easy to strip down.

mbliss57 · #52 06-01-2019, 06:38 PM

Mike from OHio USA. I just got back in January from a 3 year stay in the UK. Worcester based for most of the time. Now I am back in the USA with a couple of safes full of all kinds of hardware. I had a friend there that had some shotguns. But I was unaware that you could shoot anything that was a semi auto in any caliber or a handgun for that matter. The 1911 you refer to? Are those .45 ACP 1911s? I was told by the store owner in Worcester that the only handguns allowed in England were Air soft pistols. Was I mis- informed? Good luck to all of you. You do a good job making do with what you are allowed! I am flying back in August for a friends daughters wedding and then some vacationing in North Wales before heading back to London for a couple of days and then fly back to Cleveland, OH. We really enjoyed our time in England/ the West Midlands. We made some life long friends and we saw an lot of the Uk from the Isle of Skye to Kent, to Yorkshire, Devonshire, Herefordshire, Wales and alot in between. I would do it again in a New Youk minute.

touchoneoff · #53 06-01-2019, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Egg on Leggs

Magnum is OK but .17 is not.

Well, now that's strange. Maybe the English government thinks if the casing has a shoulder, that it's more "scary"?

touchoneoff · #54 06-01-2019, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Talisman

As title applied for another slot on fac. Gonna purchase an MP 15/22 Sport SL.
Intend to use for LSR along with my CZ455. Thought about a 10/22 but fancy something different that's easy to strip down.

CZ455 huh? Nice gun right there.

Blackstuff · #55 06-03-2019, 04:02 AM

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Originally Posted by mbliss57

Mike from OHio USA. I just got back in January from a 3 year stay in the UK. Worcester based for most of the time. Now I am back in the USA with a couple of safes full of all kinds of hardware. I had a friend there that had some shotguns. But I was unaware that you could shoot anything that was a semi auto in any caliber or a handgun for that matter. The 1911 you refer to? Are those .45 ACP 1911s? I was told by the store owner in Worcester that the only handguns allowed in England were Air soft pistols. Was I mis- informed? Good luck to all of you. You do a good job making do with what you are allowed! I am flying back in August for a friends daughters wedding and then some vacationing in North Wales before heading back to London for a couple of days and then fly back to Cleveland, OH. We really enjoyed our time in England/ the West Midlands. We made some life long friends and we saw an lot of the Uk from the Isle of Skye to Kent, to Yorkshire, Devonshire, Herefordshire, Wales and alot in between. I would do it again in a New Youk minute.

Glad you enjoyed your time over here!

Semi-auto wise we're restricted to .22 (lr, WMR etc) for rifled guns, and they must not be 'short firearms' i.e. must have at least a 12" barrel and 24" overall. The 1911 referred to would be the GSG version, but in UK spec which means it has a 12" barrel and a 'coat-hanger' arm-brace do-dad sticking off the back of the magwell to make up the 24" OAL requirement, they are hideous but its what we have to put up with!

Semi-auto shotguns are also legal on a Shotgun Certificate (license) but if you want more than 2 in the magazine you have to get the shotgun on Firearms Certificate (FAC). Semi-auto and pump-action FAC shotguns must have at least a 24" barrel and be 40" OAL. Lever-action, break-action, bolt-action etc only have to comply with the 12"/24" restriction.

Egg on Leggs · #56 06-03-2019, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by touchoneoff

Well, now that's strange. Maybe the English government thinks if the casing has a shoulder, that it's more "scary"?

No, it is a simple piece of law. Only .22 was allowed to be semi auto then .17 came along. No mention or update in law of semi auto = no semi auto in .17.

Blackstuff · #57 06-04-2019, 03:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Egg on Leggs

No, it is a simple piece of law. Only .22 was allowed to be semi auto then .17 came along. No mention or update in law of semi auto = no semi auto in .17.

When there were proposed changes to the legislation following the Cumbrian shootings it was actually proposed to allow .17HMR semi-autos (actually any rimfire semi-auto .22 and below), but there were no changes to the primary legislation (many due to David Cameron getting them shelved). While a .17HMR would've been nice (if not expensive to run!), the other stuff that was proposed would've far outweighed any gains we would've made.

Rob1 · #58 06-27-2019, 02:02 PM

I recently took delivery of my .22WMR AR type semi auto from GunCraft.

Absolutely great fun to shoot. A little pricey for ammo but best we can get in UK I’m afraid.

And a mile better than .17HMR IMHO.

Rob.

andyo5 · #59 06-27-2019, 04:48 PM

My soul brothers in the UK, don't overlook the joys of shooting bolt action rifles. There are many models built to focus on long distance accuracy, which is alot of fun if you have access to a 200 yard or longer range.

I was under the impression that in the UK, you were required to store your gun (any type) at a registered gun club under lock and key. You are not allowed to keep them in your home, Not so?

I recall a story from a few years ago in which a UK resident used a shotgun to shoot a home intruder. He was successfully sued by the intruder, and ended up going to prison for a firearms violation.

Egg on Leggs · #60 06-28-2019, 02:09 PM

We can keep our firearms at home as long as we comply with thhe security requirements.

The incident you quote related to Tony Martin, a secluded farmer whose house was broken into. The laws of self defence here are specific and the response proportional. Shooting the miscreant in the back while he was running away does not comply with self defence. There were other mitigating circumstances.