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Old 01-02-2019, 12:54 AM
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Has anyone ever tried using one of the Slidefire recoil enhancers that were manufactured inorder to give stronger recoil to the 15/22?

Has anyone ever tried using a slidefire 15/22 with or without the recoil enhancer?

Just curious because I have read alot of speculation around other forums on these since they have been discontinued and wanted to try to use one to train first time shooters on this modification.
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Old 01-02-2019, 01:49 AM
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I don't know anything about the device in question. Not being a smarty here, I'm seriously wondering why would anybody want more recoil? What am I missing?
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Old 01-02-2019, 06:49 AM
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I don't know anything about the device in question. Not being a smarty here, I'm seriously wondering why would anybody want more recoil? What am I missing?
I'm guessing you're using a 15-22 to train someone in preparation for the recoil in a 5.56.
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Old 01-02-2019, 07:31 AM
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I'm guessing you're using a 15-22 to train someone in preparation for the recoil in a 5.56.
If people need to be prepared for the recoil of a 5.56, my Lord, out future military is in a lot of trouble.
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Old 01-02-2019, 01:37 PM
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This actually sounds like a cool device to let a newbie get comfortable before they move up. Some newbies really are afraid of recoil. But it seems like something that would not work. Where does the device get the extra energy? It sounds like snake oil. Reducing recoil I can believe, you use the gas in a muzzle port or a brake, or add damping to spread the impulse over a longer period. But adding recoil? Unless the device fires a blank round I am skeptical.
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Old 01-02-2019, 02:11 PM
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First I've heard of something like this. Being that the recoil on a .223/5.56 rifle is so mild, I'm not sure there is really any real use for something like this or that it would work well.
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Old 01-02-2019, 03:04 PM
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The short answer is No; a muzzle mounted recoil enhancer on a .22 will not have the effect of making it feel like you're shooting a more powerful cartridge.

In more detail, they have a minimal effect on felt recoil, about the same as shooting .22 in a rifle that's a pound lighter. With a .22 it's barely noticeable, even by the slightest framed person.

To explain how they work; essentially it acts as a vented baffle, increasing 'back pressure' of the fired round slightly, (More accuratley extending the duration the gasses are acting upon the bolt.) roughly equivalent to having a longer barrel, without the added weight. It slightly increases the bolt's recoil velocity, thus slightly increasing the felt recoil of the gun. The effect is minimal, but useful for rifles that are cut down to very short SBR lengths, it helps them run better since they are factory tuned for a longer recoil impulse.

Once the bumpfire stocks for .22's came to the market, it became obvious that the recoil produced by most .22 ammo is marginal at best for reliable functionality, and so the recoil enhancers (the first one I know of was the Carlson thruster... thus named because it was designed to increase bolt thrust on short .22 SBR's and SMG's) started to be used on the bumpfire guns to help them with their marginal recoil performance.

I find most new shooters are more afraid of the muzzle blast of the 5.56 than they are the recoil, so I put a can on the gun, and people are much less afraid of it.
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Ive never found recoil to be a issue with 99% of the rifles I own.... shot a .458... and 12 ga slugs.... thats recoil.
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Old 01-03-2019, 06:17 PM
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The short answer is No; a muzzle mounted recoil enhancer on a .22 will not have the effect of making it feel like you're shooting a more powerful cartridge.

In more detail, they have a minimal effect on felt recoil, about the same as shooting .22 in a rifle that's a pound lighter. With a .22 it's barely noticeable, even by the slightest framed person.

To explain how they work; essentially it acts as a vented baffle, increasing 'back pressure' of the fired round slightly, (More accuratley extending the duration the gasses are acting upon the bolt.) roughly equivalent to having a longer barrel, without the added weight. It slightly increases the bolt's recoil velocity, thus slightly increasing the felt recoil of the gun. The effect is minimal, but useful for rifles that are cut down to very short SBR lengths, it helps them run better since they are factory tuned for a longer recoil impulse.

Once the bumpfire stocks for .22's came to the market, it became obvious that the recoil produced by most .22 ammo is marginal at best for reliable functionality, and so the recoil enhancers (the first one I know of was the Carlson thruster... thus named because it was designed to increase bolt thrust on short .22 SBR's and SMG's) started to be used on the bumpfire guns to help them with their marginal recoil performance.

I find most new shooters are more afraid of the muzzle blast of the 5.56 than they are the recoil, so I put a can on the gun, and people are much less afraid of it.
OK, I understand now. The device on the muzzle lets the bullet pass but increases the gas pressure in the barrel by restricting the gas trying to exit the muzzle. This increases bolt velocity (backwards). The total recoil is concentrated into a shorter time, harder hit. Same energy delivered in a shorter time. This is the opposite of a mercury or shot filled damper, which causes the same recoil to be spread over a longer time.
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I bought one ( slidefire) a while back but never got around to installing it. It’s heavy steel but I’ve also seen them in aluminum.
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I used to flinch when I shot my 338 Mag.
Never realized the 5.56 had recoil?
7 Mag, never really like shooting them.
Muzzle blast! Lots of it.
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