Is anybody making a fake shroud look , suppressor look?for the m&p15-22

S&W is making one but it won't be out until later this year. There really isn't a time table for it.

If I can find someone to thread my barrel, I will try and see how the fake can that comes from Spikes Tactical fits.

Check Tactical Innovations. They've got a fake one for .22 for about $40 that threads on in place of a flash hider as long as its the standard 1/2x28 thread.

I had one of my ar bbls threaded by sherluks. They did a nice job and the price was good (60-80$ i think)
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Appreciate the link. Got my 15-22 barrel threaded at Olde English Gun Shop. Less than one week turnaround.

GunBroker.com has one...Item# 140500546 from LaCrosse, Wisconsin. Locate it by item# or search..."M&P15"...page#2.

2 bids at $50 so far.

Here is the one I made for about a dollar. 1in. piece of pvc pipe cut to size and thre strips of the pipe glued to the inside for a tight slip on fit then painted flat black.

Why pay for a fake one. Make a fake one out of a 1 inch PVC pipe and a couple of 1 inch PCV washers from an auto store, slides on real snugg.

Why have a fake one? What about a real one? Anyone know how the 15-22 runs suppressed?

Not sure if too many people are willing to pay for a REAL one with the tax stamp and all for a .22. As a LEO i assume you meant a "legal" suppressor. lol......i think youtube has a couple vids with a suppressed .22

They are a bit pricey, but .22's are some of the most popular suppressed firearms out there. The stamp itself is around $200. The suppressors are around $600-800. They are perfectly legal here in WY, as long as you pay the tax stamp.

**Actually just looked at Gem Tech's website. .22 suppressor is $325.00 plus the stamp, of course**

http://gem-tech.com/outback.html

I would love to have one, i could shoot at night out in my back yard......lol.

Just have to be patient. Paperwork takes 3-4 months through the ATF. Fingerprints, photos, etc. etc.

Would be nice to not have to wear hearing protection.

Do you pay for the tax stamp before or after the paperwork is aproved. Also do you have to have a stamp for each one you buy? What about the same can used on different firearms?

After. Yes, stamp applies to each silencer. They are built to a specific caliber, so if you bought one for your .22 rifle, it would also work on your pistol (assuming both barrels were threaded the same).

Interesting too, they must not be out of your control. Can't loan it to your neighbor to shoot (without you there). Can't transport across state lines without notifying BATF. I understand they have to right to come inspect where and how you store it to insure it is under your control.

Regarding the 15-22 specifically Gem Tech just returned email stating they have been using one of theirs on a 15-22 and it has been working great.

Oh, so many toys...so little money.

For anyone seriously contemplating buying a real suppressor I'll throw this out there for you. Don't waste your money on a .22 can when you can only use it on .22 caliber. The whole idea behind owning a suppressor is being able to use it on as many host guns as possible. With that being said I own 2 suppressors. One is a AAC M-4 200 for use on my M-16, the other is a 9mm AAC can that I have used on .22's, 380's, 9mm's....etc. I have a handful of guns I had threaded to 1/2 X 28 TPI and they all work great. I have heard many people argue that a .22 through a 9mm can is not going to be as quiet, but those same people who tried to argue this case could not tell a difference in the sound when I used my 9mm can vs their own .22 can. Why pay a 200 dollar tax and not get your full money's worth? You can even get a .45 can and shoot smaller calibers through it as well, but it gets tricky due to the thread patterns and often ends up costing a lot to get custom thread adapters made. Owning NFA weapons is not cheap, but if you are going to do it, try to maximize what you have for less money!

good info........thanks

Was not aware that would work. Good info.

I feel your concerns about the suppressor can issues. I personally would not put a 9mm can onto a 22lr just because the threads fit. I have an issue about bullet stabilazation. Whats going to happen when some of the rounds start hitting the baffles. I would you a .223 can on a 22lr can if was stated to do so. To me this is just like trying to shoot 5.56 out of a barrel labeled for .223 only. Yes the bullets look alike but the dim. are different. They would work but for how long and what injuries may happen in the process.

Interesting. Did Gemtech say which model they were using on the 15-22?

Didn't say specifically, but they only have one model listed for rimfire.

I have a 15-22 and love it. I think the suppressor is an awesome way to go. I agree with going with the real thing as opposed to fake. Plus, wouldn't going that route also increase the value of your weapon, in the long run? Just a thought. Great posts! Thanks.

Anyone ever tried a levang linear compensator on a 22lr rifle? Do they really lessen the report that much?

The gemtech model is called outback! It is for rimfire and I currently have it installed on my P-22 which comes with a threaded barrel. I must tell you that little pistol has become one of my favorites. It is extremely accurate and just a blast to shoot. But adding the suppressor has pushed it over the top!!! .22's are probably the coolest to suppress, Mine actually makes less noise than my air rifle. I have many AR-15 platforms that i could have suppressed but after talking to many people decided to go with the rimfire one. The .223 model takes the level down to about a .22 so at least you could shoot without your ears on. I purchased a 15-22 yesterday with the intention of threading the barrel and suppressing it. I hope it functions properly as I have read many people have had problems!!!

Oh yeah, As far as purchasing a suppressor goes, The whole process took 90 days. But can be done by anyone who can legally own a firearm!! Just have your class 3 dealer set you up with the proper paperwork, Then pay a visit to the local sheriffs office (they are very nice to you) and have a few pics taken along with 2 sets of fingerprints
and next thing you know for 525.00 you own a suppressor that you can use on any .22 lr. with a threaded barrel.

Where does the problem lie when adding a suppressor? Does it happen with a bad gunsmithing job, or what? I just wouldn't want to trash my 15-22, plus with all other expenses,that could add up to disaster, pretty quickly.

You must have the work done by a competent gunsmith! Not something you can do with a tap and die set!! Then you will have no problems!!
Just take your thread protector off, screw on the suppressor and leave your hearing protection in the truck!!!

You must have a nice local sheriff. What area do you live?

Local sheriffs in my area won't sign.

Suppressors and other class 3 weapons ownership depend on state and local laws also.

I live in western colo. Yeah I guess it might be a little tougher to get an approval in Detroit or Denver But for the most part unless they can prove that you are a menace to society you should
be able to get your TAX stamp!! People do it everyday, I would suggest you check your local laws etc. Then think back and try n remember how bad a boy you were back in the day!! LOL

In my area you can own Class 3 weapons. But the CLEO will not sign. Just refuses. Doesn't matter that there is no known reason, just won't sign. No law that says they MUST sign.

Which is just stupid, because CLEO is not giving you a authorization to own a class 3 item, it's just his acknowledgment that owning said class 3 item is not against the law in his city/county/state. Of course, you can get around this with a simple revocable trust or a corporation.

Onapar,

wondering if you have anymore pics of that PVC. maybe from the front?

If you make it yourself i take it that you don't need a tax stamp right?
and if that is the case being a plumber ican make as many as i want to.
but would that be breaking any laws i don't need them knocking on my door.

nooo... dont do it! lol, im not 100% versed on the 'making-you-own' part of it, but i DO know that you need a stamp, no matter where it comes from. as far as making it yourself, you better do some homework on the subject... i think there might be a pop-test! or at least, dont let anyone see it...

Yeah i guess you're right about the homework don't want a "Hey guys watch this" to happen or one of my cop buddies to see it, so i'll just leave this one alone!!!.

lol, yeah.. theres nothing saying that you cant make a faux suppressor tho! your best bet might be to call a local class 3 dealer, and ask. even then, im sure he'd try to sway you to buy a factory one from him. take a look at the Gemtech ummm... outback II or something like that, i cant recall, but its right on their site.

As far as federal laws go, there's nothing to keep you from making your own supressor without a manufacturers license so long as it's for your own personal use (do not sell it) But it's still a NFA item and still requires a tax stamp. Local laws are the big limiting factor. If you're interested in making your own, contact the BATFE to get the info on what they require.

I believe he was asking about a fake can. but as long as it doesnt lower the sound by more than 2dbs then its legal (if i recall correctly) atf says to be classify as a suppressor it has to lower the sound level that much but check me on that... ive built a fake can and have it on mine. it looks like an intregally suppressed ar now(it adds no length to the rifle) i get alot of thats cool as *ell remarks... i work for a class 2 weapons manu. so i actually have several different flash hiders / muzzel tamers ive put on it. if anyone wants to see pics i can post them ... i think lol.... just so people know flash hiders and muzzel tamers usally raise the volume of the gun.. dummy cans shouldnt change sound level at all but can if they extend past the barrel ... i did notice a slight accuracy increase when i installed my fake can im assuming its from the weight hanging off the end of the barrel

Belt Fed, lets see those pics.
There is a thread adapter on ebay for non threaded barrels. It slips over the end and is held on with set screws. It should work fine for a flash hider or a fake can. But you really need to have the barrel threaded concentric to the bore within .002 In. T.I.R. .0005 In. would be ideal. The barrel has no taper except for the last few inches by the chamber. This lets your machinist or gunsmith chuck up close to the muzzle, and use a 4 jaw chuck to get inside the tolerance needed. Turning between centers is the old easy way of threading tapered barrels. It works well, but it can damage the breech face and the crown. Plus there is a slew of other problems with a length of pipe spinning in a lathe. Very experience machinists can pull it off without a hitch.

ive threaded well over 100 barrels for myself and other people.. ive found the best way to get it right is to build a jig(aka setup tool) that inserts in the barrel so that u can locate off the i.d. of the barrel i have never picked up a barrel that the i.d. and o.d. were true to each other... But i can say that the smiths r pretty close... i did go ahead and put an 11* target crown back on mine causr the 1/2-28 threads leave a sharp edge with the recess that is cut from the factory... and i may need some help on those pics havent figured it out yet lol

I agree 100% that the I.D. and O.D. are almost never concentric. Thats why I use an indicator in the bore and not on the barrel O.D. plus a 4 jaw lathe chuck gets you right on the money. I did the same crown on the muzzle, for the same reason.
Maybe you should advertise your services. I bet you would get a lot of work from 15-22 owners.
For the pics, Use the "go advanced" reply. At the top, there is a paperclip. That is where you can attach pics that are on your computer, to the post. If you have pics online, photobucket for instance, use the mountain with a little sun, and it will ask for the URL of your image. The paperclip images are the little ones in the posts and the mountain / sun are the large images.

thanx ill try and post pics today... and ya if any1 needs it done all they need to do is ask...

here are some pics (if this works lol) of my setup for now... the m&p has hogue grips with a threaded barrel for "attachments" and an extra red dot i had laying around (waiting on barska m16 elec.) sorry these are all the attachments i had laying around the house they r off other guns the billet slotted 1 is a some what copy of a m14 flash hider that i keep on a bolt gun the other goes on 1 of my 10/22s... they r both just me playing around with extra time... the black m4 is off a m4 and the shoud is t6 billet aluminum hope yall enjoy

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The M&P 15-22's with the threaded barrel/ flash hider are in the stores... I had one in my hand last week.. SKU # 811033

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The shroud looks great. What are the details? Ya gotta love that threaded barrel. Now all you need is a new handguard;-)

i had to retake them in a lesser setting but here r a few more...just incase anyone cares the browning 1919 is what i help the classII friend build the most of and i mean we build alot of them... that 1 is mine that i built out of spare parts it is a 50 state legal semi auto monster....

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ya ive allready made the nut just havent found the right grip or should i say right grip for the price

as far as details go... i work for a class II weapon manuf. on my days off from my real job and in my free time i monkey with my own stuff... i had the rifle less than 1 hr before me and the mad scientist tore it apart and started dreaming stuff up for it... i really like the attention the gsg-5sd gets at the range so i threaded the barrel 1/2-28 and made the can to copy that look.. it really balances the rifle out in looks and feel... its made from a piece of t6 billet aluminum and ive played with the weight till it feels like i think it should... right now its just painted but it will be duracoated this week (simular to the coating on a h&k mp5) we do alot of threading barrels for people with legal suppressors so we r tooled to do it right.. hope every1 likes the pics and if i can help any1 on here let me know

tacticool22.com have threaded slip on for gun barrel look it up saves a thread job