Apex or this smith

[GONIF]

I was going to get the Apex kit ,but this S&W M&P Trigger Job
looks very promising . is he any good ? is it better than Apex kit ?

[mittenzon]

What, exactly, are you asking?

Are you considering doing the work as described in the Powerpoint yourself as opposed to installing one of Apex's kits?
Or, are you considering sending your gun to Burwell as opposed to sending it to Apex?

Again, clarification of the question will get you a better response.

[growr]

Take the money you would spend either on parts or on an action job and buy more ammo. The more you shoot it the better it will become. Your own skills get to improve as well...How do you lose on that one?
My M&P .40 Full Size has over 15,000 rounds downrange without a hiccup of any sort and the trigger keeps on getting better. Yours will too. Just my opinion........
Randy

[GaryM&P]

If you're talking about shipping the gun to Burwell keep in mind the cost of shipping is substantial and needs to be factored into your decision.

[BigBadAllis]

Depends on what your using the gun for. The Apex is nice and a lot of people like them. If it's your carry gun the factory feel and pull is great. IF your looking for smoothness purely for target practice or competitive shooting you might like it. To be honest, I really didn't notice enough difference to justify the cost.

Jason

[GONIF]

What I want is a light,crisp under 4 # trigger ,and I would do it myself .I was wondering if I should polish the factory parts or get some Apex parts and polish the rest . Any combo of things to yeild the best light crisp smooth trigger . There is no problem with safty ,as I do not put my finger on the trigger untill I have a target in my sights . I'm 59 and been around firearms all my life . So there is no problem wit a light trigger pull .

[mittenzon]

To be honest, I really didn't notice enough difference to justify the cost.

Jason

Sounds like you were able to do a "before and after" test and then decided not to buy the Apex parts. How did you arrange that?

[Fastbolt]

I haven't had the chance to try the Apex sear in a M&P yet, although I know someone who has and has spoken very highly of how it worked for him. I know a couple of guys who are going to order the sears, so I suppose I'll have the chance to test-fire a M&P with the aftermarket sear at some point and see how it does.

In the meantime, my M&P 45 and 40c have satisfactory triggers for my needs (defensive carry retirement CCW weapons), although they didn't exactly start out that way. Both were heavy and had some varying degrees of roughness at first. I remember my M&P 45 gave me some averaged trigger pull readings on my digital gauge running from 8 1/2 - 9+ lbs when I checked it a couple of times when it was new. Considering the expected +/- 2 lbs tolerance regarding the 7 lb trigger pull weight for the .45, mine obviously came in on the heavy end. The weight and minor roughness didn't prevent it from having a consistently predictable break and nice trigger recovery, and it exhibited some excellent accuracy from the very first magazine load fired, but it was heavier than I'd hoped. I just had to work harder in the beginning, but that was the familiarization period with a new design/model, anyway.

By the time I'd ran about 2,500+ rounds through it I realized it had become a lot smoother and seemingly lighter, so I checked it on the gauge again. I got a couple averaged group readings of 5 1/2 - 6 lbs. Nice. I didn't use the trigger weights I keep for checking revolvers, but the digital gauge was close enough for what I wanted to know. That's the weight I prefer in my 'working' 1911's and other pistols (unless the first shot is a heavy DA trigger stroke in a TDA gun, of course).

I tried a 2010 production M&P 45c a while back and my impression was that the trigger was smoother and lighter right out of the box than mine had been. Not as light and smooth as mine has become, but better than mine was when NIB.

I'm not interested in competitive shooting, though. If I were, I'd consider the PC package and sear, or maybe the Apex sear. Dunno. Maybe a Pro Series, if they were to ever offer one in .45 ACP.

[djm]

I noticed an improvement in my trigger somewhere around the 700 round mark, plus many many dry fires. Prior to that I was seriously considering an Apex kit, but now I really like the trigger. And I don't plan to put a kit in my next M&P, now that I know of the natural improvement.

[Backon4]

Shoot the ***** of it. My 40c has broken in to around 3.5 lbs. Be careful if it's your carry gun. Many states AG's have issues with the "image" modified firearms as being used for carry and if you ever have to defend yourself you may be up a creek without a paddle. Just a little food for thought.

[Backon4]

Also last I heard be prepared to be without your gun for 8-9 months if you send it to Burwell as he is known to be very backed up.

[growr]

As Backon4 said.....shoot it alot. Two things happen, your gun gets better and so do you. How do you lose in that equation?