My 9c shot about 2" to the right @ 25'. My front sight became loose within a few weeks of my purchase, so I sent it in for repair to S&W. When it came back to me, it shot about 3" to the left @ 25'.

FYI: I had another shooter verify that my 9c was off by the amounts given, so I knew it was not me.

Just had night sights installed, so I paid the gunsmith to sight the gun. So I was curious if ya'll had your M&Ps sighted, or do you just shoot it as-is from the factory without any sight adjustments.

-T

Mine was fine out of the box. I was hitting low left at first, but it was me

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M&P .40, M&P 9c & Shield 45

Same here, it was due to my lack of technique with striker-fired guns. Otherwise, it was as good as I let it be.

What you describe is a sight adjustment issue, not an accuracy issue. You would need to shoot some groups at 25 yards to gauge your accuracy. Also, most POI and accuracy issues are induced by the shooter, not the gun.

Both my full size M&P9 and my M&P9c were very accurate right out of the box. The more my skill and consistency improve the more impressed I am with the accuracy both are capable of. I am definitely the limiting factor (though less so the more I practice).

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M&P15T M&P9 M&P9c SW1911 4506

I changed the sights fairly quickly after purchasing. The gun is a competition gun used by my wife in IDPA. No other changes have been made.

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NRA Certified Instructor

No issues with my 4 M&P's out of the box. Even after removing and replacing sights by hand, I eyeballed and they still shot fine.

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Jack C

I marvel at accuracy questions from a 4" barrel. You all must be much better than I am. Here is a formula to figure how much a sight needs to be moved to change the point of impact:
M = S * D / (R * 12)

Where:
M = amount of movement or change in sight height needed (in inches)
D = distance in inches need to move the bullet's strike to hit point of aim
R = range to target in FEET
S = distance between the front edge of the rear sight and the rear edge of the front sight blade (in inches)

So if you are 3" off at 75 feet, with a distance of 5" between sights, 5*3 / 75*12 = 0.0166"

Basically you need to move the sight 17 thousands of an inch.

Are you asking about the gun's ability to shoot tight groups or if the sights were regulated so as to hit the center of the target?
In both of these cases all 4 of my M&P's shot to center and delivered very good groups as well. The .45 seems to group a little better than the 9 or .40 but they all deliver exceptionally well for me!
Randy

low and left for me also,about 3 inches at 35 feet
working on my shooting flaws,i was high and right at 35 feet 3 inch group.i know if i worked at it more,i would have no problem getting 2 inches at 20 feet

I think you are right. I used the wrong term.

My groups were consistently to the right with the first sight, and consistently to the left with the replacement sight. It was obvious from looking at the front sight that S&W did not even try to center it. Sure, I could adjust the rear if I wanted, but from what I read here, rear adjustment is very difficult. So I paid a guy.

I was referring to the center of the target.


I attached some pics... both @ 25'. Each target was shot with 10 rounds. Outer ring of each target is 8" in diameter.

M&P9C (with factory sighted - groups ~3" left of bulls eye). Beretta 9mm (I shot a bit high)

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My full sized .40 had to been sent back in to Smith and Wesson b/c the front sight had "drifted" to the right. Can't wait to get it back!

Mine was one of the best I've ever shot! Wish I could say the same for the .45

Mine has been great and accurate out of the box. From a pistol rest it is not as accurate as my CZ's but accurate enough for IDPA.

Take Care

Bob

Compact .40 dead on outta the box.

Mine was accurate, although I shot low left. It is better now that I practiced trigger control with dry fire.

Mine shot low left, or so I thought. The more i practice, the better those sights seem to get. Almost every M&P that's come through our local range has been capable of 3" groups at 25 yards, most are better than 2.5".

Mine shot great straight out of the box. I've probably put 1,500 rounds through it total, never had any issues... Okay one issue, my first time taking it to the range, I had gone through two magazines (10 rounds each) inserted magazine # 3 and on that 21st shot the white dot on my front sight went flying. I was freaking out because my CCW class was a week away! Whiteout is a great replacement LOL.
In the past 6 months, I've ordered a supertuck deluxe for it, the apex tactical DCAEK kit (Love it!) and a set of trijicon night sights.
This is quite possibly one of the best guns I own, and I carry it with me everyday.

My fullsize M&P 9 hits dead on point of aim at 10-15 yds. with less than 2" five shot groups at that distance. I love the gun.

my 9fs was accurate right out of the box and it still is

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HOOCH

I've got as good as 3 to 3.5 inch groups with my M&P full sized 45 with Federal 230 grain Hydra Shoks.

The February 2012 issue of "Combat Handguns" features a test of some Hornaday 230 grain Steel Match ammo. Two of the test pistols were an M&P 45 full size and a 45C. The full size shot a 1.5 inch group and the compact a 1.42 inch group. Shooting was from 25 yards according to the article by David Bahde.

Here was my 9c out of the box, slow fire, 18 rounds at 30 feet. My 45 mid size is about as good. Great guns!

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Ray K
Mount Dora, Florida

Assume you checked for sight upset by dry firing.

I have both a M&P 9 and 45. Haven't found anything to complain about with either. Both are quite accurate for combat pistols, in my opinion.

Here's my first 15 yard test target "right out of the box" with the 45 when I bought it back in July 09.

Since then groups have actually gotten a wee bit better as I've become use to the trigger. Most my previous semi-auto experience was with 1911 & HiPower style pistols.

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I just shot my m&p 40 for the first time too and when I first started shooting it my groups were pretty bad but after practice and really concentrating my groups got closer but I noticed them too being low and to the left. I started aiming a inch and a half high and about a inch to the right and put three in the bullseye but when I put up some little cans I was missing them by aiming like I was at the paper target so I aimed dead on them and was hitting them. I think we just need more practice. I do want to put my gun on something to keep it really still and shoot and just see if it is off any. I was shooting the blazer 165 grain TMJ bullets. Not sure if this is the best grain to use but I got them at good deal.

Mine all shoot fine: POA = POI. Several M&Ps (compact and full size); zero complaints.

Out
West

Mine was dead on, untill I did a trigger job... oops I am going to send it out to get the new sight installed, but I cant seem to let it go, not even for a week...

I see this thread is older and the OP figured out he had a sight adjustment issue instead of an accuracy issue. My target images will show both the POA/POI and accuracy that I get with my M&P40 FS. MY M&P isn't a Bullseye gun but it'll dump it's magazine into a fist (heart) sized hole.

All my targets were shot at just 7yds, two handed, unsupported. You'll notice I used about 10 different loads, mostly SD loads, in my testing.

I've found that with 180gr loads at this range my POI is about 3/4" higher then POA. When shooting 165gr POA/POI are right on. When I use my .357 SIG barrel in this gun and shoot 125gr loads, POA/POI also match.

All these holes show that me and my M&P can shoot right about 1" average groups at 7 yards. At 25yds we average about 5-6". For comparison my .45 1911 can pretty consistently make one hole groups at 7yds but at 25yds I can only average about 4". I know it can do much better at 25 and blame it on my eyesight. So I tend to shoot at 7 where I can actually see what I'm shooting at

Bottem of black (six O'Clock) hold.


6:00 again


The left and center were shot with the .357Sig and a dead center target hold. The right target is with 180gr .40 and I forgot to go back to my 6 o'clock hold therefore it is about 1" high


For comparison this is the very first 8 rounds I put through this gun. I can fairly consistently do ragged one hole 5 shot groups with it now. The orange sticker is 1"