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Old 12-24-2011, 08:37 AM
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I am very new to guns in general (please be patient with me). I just bought a new M&P 9mm. I purchsed a gun cleaning kit with it. It came with 2 products; gun cleaner & gun oil. Have been on many you tube sites & seen many people also using gun grease. My question is this; Whats the difference between gun oil & gun grease? Is gun grease neccesary?
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The grease will last longer but can be a problem if your gun is subjected to very cold weather. I've used both and as long as you maintain your gun regurarly (I have the M&P 9C) the oil is best, at least in my humble opinion.
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Justin,

Conventional wisdom is, if it rotates, oil it. If it slides, grease it (Tetra is a good product). On your new semi auto, use grease on the slide-to-frame rails. A little goes a long way. A quality gun oil or 30 wt. synthetic engine oil work well for all other lube requirements.
I like to use Rem-oil or CLP for oiling.
You can find a fine selection of quality products through Midway or Brownells (google them).

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Conventional wisdom is, if it rotates, oil it. If it slides, grease it (Tetra is a good product). On your new semi auto, use grease on the slide-to-frame rails. A little goes a long way. A quality gun oil or 30 wt. synthetic engine oil work well for all other lube requirements.
I like to use Rem-oil or CLP for oiling.
You can find a fine selection of quality products through Midway or Brownells (google them).

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Old 12-24-2011, 01:16 PM
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Thanks for the input!
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I used mpro 7 oil on the frame to slide, and before even firing it I took it back down to see if it was still there and I wasnt impressed. He might be right I think the grease will stick around longer. Whats a good gun grease?
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Old 12-24-2011, 11:14 PM
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I use Gunslick Graphite grease on just about all my Semis and it works great.
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Loctite, while well known for it's adhesives, also makes lubricants. I use their C5-A copper based product with which I am quite impressed. It seems to be thicker than oil but thinner than grease. I think I got it from Brownells.
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Grease makes sense. Think i'll try it out. Thanks
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I use MilCom TW25 grease on slide rails and any good oil on the rest.
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CLP is all ya need. I don't see the word "grease" in the M&P manual. Grease makes no sense at all if it's not specified.

Grease slows the movement of parts and adds friction. This can upset the timing of the pistol. I can induce stoppages in some pistols by using grease rather than CLP.

For a range pistol use KY Jelly or even peanut butter as your "lube." If you're using this as a weapon use CLP.

All ya need is a very light coat of lube for carry purposes. Heavy lube for a 500 round range session.

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CLP is all ya need. I don't see the word "grease" in the M&P manual. Grease makes no sense at all if it's not specified.

Grease slows the movement of parts and adds friction. This can upset the timing of the pistol. I can induce stoppages in some pistols by using grease rather than CLP.

For a range pistol use KY Jelly or even peanut butter as your "lube." If you're using this as a weapon use CLP.

All ya need is a very light coat of lube for carry purposes. Heavy lube for a 500 round range session.

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theres no way a slight thin layer of good synthetic grease on the slide rails is gonna slow down a pistol or cause friction ... thats just non sense . good quality grease works excellent on the slide rails and last far longer then any oil .
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There are two post refering to a graphite and a copper based grease, as I am fairly new to semi's I would think that using either of those grease products would cause wear on poly framed pistols. Has anyone using either of these noticed this?
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There are two post refering to a graphite and a copper based grease, as I am fairly new to semi's I would think that using either of those grease products would cause wear on poly framed pistols. Has anyone using either of these noticed this?
I have not used either on any of my guns, but I have in other applications and I don't foresee it as a problem. I'm not trying to be smart but you do know the rails in poly guns are steel?
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I just got in a tub of Slide-Glide from Brian Enos. At first blush this stuff blows away the other stuff I have used. I have several other gun grease products and I always felt they were to runny. Slide-Glide is pasty and even stringy. Enos claims softer felt recoil. I can't comment on that yet, I will say just racking the two M&P's I applied his product to now feel like they are riding on Teflon runners. Very noticeable difference.

Oh, and concerning the oil vs. grease vs. nothing debate, I will never forget years ago showing up at a match with my 'new' DCM issued M1 Garand. I had just finished my usual cleaning which included a light coat of oil. When I handed it to the ex-Marine range officer for inspection he gave it one look, grabbed a tub of grease and proceeded to apply liberal amounts to the appropriate moving parts. The lesson was learned and I have been applying grease to my firearms ever since.
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I am aware the rails are steel, but I also know that if the grease builds up from the action of the slide it could start to wear on the poly, and this would be applicable more so to the graphite and/or the copper based grease. A light coat of petroleum or synthetic based would not have the abrasiveness of the other two
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I’ll second Slide-Grease from Brian Enos. I use the thinnest formula on 22lrs, 9s, and 45s… A little goes a very long way. I use a foam Q-tip applicator and work in a very small amount in the slide guide as well as the rails. After 500 rounds the stuff is still there!

I’ll second the slide racking feel as well… it feels like an air hockey puck…
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Hi all, I was curious about this too. I cleaned my M&P and wondered about grease vs. oil.

I see a mixed bag on this, not only here but on other forums and blogs - seems that everyone has his or her own opinion, backing it up with support that primarily goes like this "well I've used 'x' for years and it's always worked fine".

So I decided to contact Smith and Wesson on the matter and ask what an M&P semi automatic owner should be using for lube on his/her M&P - grease or oil - specifically on the rails and the reply was to ONLY use oil on the gun, not grease. The rep recommended just using "normal gun oil".

Anyhow, take it FWIW but straight from the manufacture's mouth!

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Thanks for your insight, on the proper lubricating of my weapons. I will now start using little grease on the slides of the auto's.
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I'm late to the party, but you can see all the controversy lol.

In the beginning, FOLLOW WHAT'S IN YOUR MANUAL.

The manual calls for small dabs of oil in 7 spots. The manufacturer says that's all it needs. I can assure you it will run fine if you do that . . . and it will spit and drool oil if you use too much. You'll learn by trial and error, and meanwhile using oil will NOT harm your gun, it will work just fine.

Later, as you learn more, you can adjust your methodology and judge for yourself how good (or bad) the advice you get from strangers is lol.
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Later, as you learn more, you can adjust your methodology and judge for yourself how good (or bad) the advice you get from strangers is lol.
I agree with that 100%. Find some people you can trust (which is getting harder to do) and use their advice as a guide but not a rule.

However, I use TW25B on the rails, oil on the rest.
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Follow the manufacturers suggestion. Most of them will tell you to use oil. Everyone has their own opinion of what will work best. I have seen a lot of weird ways that people try to do to keep their guns lubricated. I wouldn't be suprised is someone out there uses the bacon grease from their breakfast.

I use oil for everything, never had any problem and I live in Florida where its hot all the time.
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Here's some good advice from a reliable source. What I've always thought is that oil is fine for typical shooting. However, to keep oil off your clothes when using a carry weapon, use some grease as it stays put and doesn't leak off.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9eUacqOIAaU
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I use TW25b synthetic grease on my slides. Why? Because Sig recommends it and and includes a sample of it with their new guns and I love my Sig .
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Have used BreakFree CLP for years but tried Eezox and it works as advertised. Goes on wet and then dries to leave a slippery film that does NOT attract gunk...
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Check YouTube vids for Froglube. Amazing stuff.
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I use TW-25B on all my slides and any good gun oil on the other lube points.
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Hi all, I was curious about this too. I cleaned my M&P and wondered about grease vs. oil.

So I decided to contact Smith and Wesson on the matter and ask what an M&P semi automatic owner should be using for lube on his/her M&P - grease or oil - specifically on the rails and the reply was to ONLY use oil on the gun, not grease. The rep recommended just using "normal gun oil".

Anyhow, take it FWIW but straight from the manufacture's mouth!

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That's the opinion of one S&W rep.

I'd take the advice of some of the guys on here over that rep. In fact I'd take the advice of some of our guys over most S&W engineers....

I believe an armorer with 30 years experience with guns in the sand and arctic cold keeping our troops with functioning weapons is a better resource than a snot nosed kid 'engineer' who knows everything from books.

I just switched from CLP to TW25b and I like it.
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Any opinions on general purpose lithium grease? (Sold at Wal-Mart, the it is white/clear looking. So I guess white lithium.) For the slide on my m&p at least.
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I have a big can of Hoppes gun oil that I bought in 1981, still using that. On my M1, I use official M1 gun grease in the tiny pots.

I have some little bottles of CLP that I use at the range if something looks like it needs a squirt of oil.
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This was basically my exact question so I revived this thread.

I am wanting to make sure I have the correct product on my slide at all times and I have MANY places to dab all 4 points of your slide rail and frame with grease and oil everything else.

Still the consensus here for the most part?

If so I am going to go with the Slip2000 EWG (extreme weapons grease).

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This was basically my exact question so I revived this thread.

I am wanting to make sure I have the correct product on my slide at all times and I have MANY places to dab all 4 points of your slide rail and frame with grease and oil everything else.

Still the consensus here for the most part?

If so I am going to go with the Slip2000 EWG (extreme weapons grease).

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I would use oil.
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That's the opinion of one S&W rep.

I'd take the advice of some of the guys on here over that rep. In fact I'd take the advice of some of our guys over most S&W engineers....

I believe an armorer with 30 years experience with guns in the sand and arctic cold keeping our troops with functioning weapons is a better resource than a snot nosed kid 'engineer' who knows everything from books.

I just switched from CLP to TW25b and I like it.
I think you are selling S&W a little short here. Their sole job is to sell guns and sell guns that are reliable and run correctly. I would certainly think they are not employing "snot nosed kids" as engineers.....their entire reputation depends on it.

That being said, I never use grease, oil only. I listen to what the manufacture of the weapon recommends, and most recommend oil from what I have seen. Look at the high end 1911s....many (Brown, Baer & Dan Wesson) specify very clearly oil only, no grease. They do that for a reason. Wait, maybe they employ "snot nosed kids" too as lead engineers too
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Tetra grease works fine for me, but here in Florida it rarely gets below 60 in the winter. Summers are in the 80-90 range. When they say to use oil, it's because some of their guns could be in the snow belt where the temps could be 10 degrees. My problem is when applying oil to a gun, it's gone & bone dry after a week. The Tetra stays in place forever. GARY
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I use Break Free CLP on everything but the slide rails. On my M&P22 I use TW25 which is a light grease and holds up well. On my others I use Shooters Choice on the slide rails. This works for me
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Ask 100 gun guys which is the best gun oil and you'll get 100 different answers. Mostly all of the newer lubricants are pretty much the same performance wise.
I use Mobil full synthetic motor oil myself.
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I don't think there is an agreed "conventional wisdom" on this topic yet. And there are sub-arguments: Froglube vs. TW-25, MobilOne vs. Walmart bearing grease, etc. Individual opinions vary.

A few points where there does seem to be agreement:

--Aluminum frame guns (e.g., classic Sigs) last longer with grease on the areas where steel (the slide) contacts the frame (aluminum). (Sig recommends TW-25B). Oil (including Breakfree CLP and many others) works fine on steel-to-steel frame rails.

--Oil that is too light, which might be light machine oil or even RemOil, will evaporate quickly from a gun in storage or in pocket, and won't last through a long range session.

--Gobs of grease, esp. lithium based grease, can stiffen when cold and cause the cycling of automatics to slow down enough to cause malfunctions.

Personal opinions: CLP works fine for my M&P9. TW-25B works well with my P229. Hornady One Shot® cleaner/lubricant is the best preservative/anti-rust agent going (not to be confused with One Shot case lube for reloading).
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Look at the high end 1911s....many (Brown, Baer & Dan Wesson) specify very clearly oil only, no grease. They do that for a reason. Wait, maybe they employ "snot nosed kids" too as lead engineers too
Actually, Sig not only recommends grease on the slides of their 1911's, they also include a small sample of TW25B with every gun now. I have two.
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Here's some good advice from a reliable source. What I've always thought is that oil is fine for typical shooting. However, to keep oil off your clothes when using a carry weapon, use some grease as it stays put and doesn't leak off.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9eUacqOIAaU
Very interesting video.... Thanks..
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I agree with that 100%. Find some people you can trust (which is getting harder to do) and use their advice as a guide but not a rule.

However, I use TW25B on the rails, oil on the rest.
Sigs ship with Mil-COMM applied at factory__they claim and
are supposed to include a sample with each pistol. That said, I
got a replacement P232 last year directly from Sig (NH) but
no sample.
I use TW25b grease too. It resembles hand lotion and isn't
thick at all. Their oil is the same base product as their grease.
One should follow the directions the first time using the product
for best results.
Its my understanding the military uses it on their gatling guns.
Mil-COMM states as have reviewers it is "Extreme Lubrication".
Likely other good lubricants are fine for average shooters, I feel.
That said, I really like it because it stays and you use very, very
little of it.
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I'm going to throw one other item into the fray. High moly grease. I'm not referring to bearing grease at 3% moly but 60+% moly paste. I first found this via my air rifle hobby, then used it in my custom 1911 rails. Then have I used it on a variety of rifles and pistols for a poor mans trigger job. High moly paste bonds with friction to the metal and is extremely slick. I use a toothpick to put a small amount on to any sliding surface with amazing results. Honda 60 is one brand or you can pick it up here Super Moly Paste. This small pot is enough for years of use
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I use TW25B grease. It works very well for me, also use the thinner version in oil form too. Great product.
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I bought Wilson products, grease & oil, for my Colt 1911, I follow what the handbook that came with my shield says about lubrication. No grease on this one.
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Interesting thread, if I may add some coal to the fire what brand oil lol
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I just use good old 3 in 1 household oil. It doesn't take much.
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I've been using Hoppe's #9 & Rem-oil on all my firearms & carry guns since 1989 and I as of yet had not one gun fail, rust, wear out, or even had a part replaced. My Remington 870 express magnum that I've had since 1991 still looks new (ish). I have a small terrycloth rag that I squirt Rem-oil on & use that to rub down the outside of my firearms, I use rem oil for lubricating as well.. If they sold it by the gallon I'd buy it... I'd use it as an aftershave moistureizer if I could.
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