Disappointed with new M&P 9

[CavScout 00]

Just ordered a brand new M&P 9. Test fire was 02/04. After good initial cleaning and lube I noticed that the slide stop/release is so hard to release its almost border line of needing struck by an object. I can get it to drop but it takes two thumbs and a lot of pressure. I did it 3 times to see if it would loosen up but quit because i was putting so much pressure it felt like it might break.

I went to my local gun shop and looked at some new ones there. They didnt have the issue at all. One 40 was a little tight but felt like it could be broken in easily.

I had a buddy look at it that is an M&P goro and informed me that they come stiff. He said he has never seen or heard of one being that hard after handling it. I watched his face turn a couple of shades of red trying to release it and he couldnt.

Looks like ill be contacting S&W before even shooting the thing. This could have been avoided if they would just have checked it.

[OKFC05]

If you are trying to release the slide stop on an unloaded new gun, I'm surprised you can do it at all, especially with the magazine in the gun. How easy is it if you drop the mag and slingshot the slide? Close OK?

[CavScout 00]

Originally Posted by OKFC05

If you are trying to release the slide stop on an unloaded new gun, I'm surprised you can do it at all, especially with the magazine in the gun. How easy is it if you drop the mag and slingshot the slide? Close OK?

I was doing it without a magazine, tried with a magazine to see if it had some weird feature that required a magazine in it to work. Same result. I can sling shot it fine. I expect it to be a little stiff where its new, but not inoperable.

I own 10 semi auto handguns and have never seen one that tight. It obviously an issue if other brand new ones can do it just fine.

[MichiganScott]

It is a slide lock, not a slide stop or release. The gun was never designed to have that part used to drop the slide.

Insert the empty mag and pull the slide to the rear. It will lock open. Drop the mag, pull the slide to the rear and release. The slide will snap forward. You do not operate a M&P like a 1911. If you had inserted a loaded mag, your pistol would now be loaded.

[motorcyclejoe]

Originally Posted by OKFC05

If you are trying to release the slide stop on an unloaded new gun, I'm surprised you can do it at all, especially with the magazine in the gun. How easy is it if you drop the mag and slingshot the slide? Close OK?

Agree. But I would think your buddy would have told you this. I have a FS 9 and 9c and I've never been able to release the slide with an empty mag in place - unless I pull the slide back to release the pressure from the follower.

[CavScout 00]

Originally Posted by MichiganScott

It is a slide lock, not a slide stop or release. The gun was never designed to have that part used to drop the slide.

Insert the empty mag and pull the slide to the rear. It will lock open. Drop the mag, pull the slide to the rear and release. The slide will snap forward. You do not operate a M&P like a 1911. If you had inserted a loaded mag, your pistol would now be loaded.

You mean to tell me that a handgun targeted for Military and Police does not have a slide release?

I figure this would be well known if that was the case because I don't know an instructor that would recommend a firearm without a slide release. One hand weapon manipulation scenarios would be a no go.

If that's the case why does it seem like mine is a minority and other M&P's are able to do it?

[RaginRog]

I release the slide by pulling it back and releasing. I've never liked releasing the slide by way of the lock/release. Mine are still a little stiff even though each of my M&Ps has over a 1k rounds.

[427mach1]

Originally Posted by CavScout 00

You mean to tell me that a handgun targeted for Military and Police does not have a slide release?

I figure this would be well known if that was the case because I don't know an instructor that would recommend a firearm without a slide release. One hand weapon manipulation scenarios would be a no go.

If that's the case why does it seem like mine is a minority and other M&P's are able to do it?

I think you will find that most modern pistols have a slide STOP, not a slide RELEASE. Many people mistakenly refer to them as a slide release. While it is possible to make it function as a slide release, it is not recommended. Read your owner's manual and you will see it is referred to as a slide stop. My M&P manual shows a slide stop. My Ruger manual shows a slide stop. Glocks have a slide stop.

One hand operation is possible buy hooking the rear sight and pushing forward on the grip, thereby moving the slide rearward.

[RaginRog]

I also meant to add that I was a little disappointed with mine. However, I realized for its price point, USA manufacturing, and warranty it makes for a good value, and good pistol. I've been a gigging musician on and off since 2006, and find there is a paradigm here. For example Fender American made guitars and basses are very good instruments stock. However, dump $2-300 into one on better electronics and pickups and it significantly improves a good instrument. Pistols are the same, particularly M&Ps. S&W gives you a weapon that is reliable, and with the help of the aftermarket industry can turn into an amazing pistol.I by far enjoy shooting my M&Ps over my S&W revolvers and my pricey Sig P226.

[scooter123]

The correct terminology for this device is Slide Lock and it always has been identified as such. I can also state with absolute certainty that there are some semi auto handguns that have no external controls for the Slide Lock because many firearms designers consider releasing the slide with the Slide Lock to be somewhat abusive. To put it simply, the most correct method for releasing the slide is by slingshoting it.

Now, I'm not saying you can't thumb the Slide Lock to release the slide, about 30 years of TV and Movie actors using this technique for dramatic effect proves that it can be done. It has also proven to be a good technique for adding a bit of drama to a scene in a movie or TV show. Just be aware of where this bit of gun handling originated. If you want to continue to copy some actor then you are perfectly free to contact S&W and ask them to stone the lock notch on your slide for an easier release. I don't know if they'll actually do that but it can't hurt to ask.

[MichiganScott]

Originally Posted by CavScout 00

You mean to tell me that a handgun targeted for Military and Police does not have a slide release?

I figure this would be well known if that was the case because I don't know an instructor that would recommend a firearm without a slide release. One hand weapon manipulation scenarios would be a no go.

If that's the case why does it seem like mine is a minority and other M&P's are able to do it?

The first thing I do when I buy a firearm is read the Owner's Manual. Smith and Wesson repeatably calls the part in question a "slide stop". On page 17 of the manual, they instruct the owner to pull the slide to the rear to drop it from the locked position. Nowhere does S&W instruct the shooter to use the part in question as a slide release.

Your "problem" has been discussed ad infinitum on this board. Call the mothership on Monday and request they send a call tag for repair. Be prepared to receive the pistol back in 4-6 weeks in the condition it was in when you returned it.

Or you can just shoot it and it will eventually loosen up enough for you to use it in a manner different than which it was designed. I believe the part has been re-engineered and beefed up so breakage is no longer guaranteed if you use it improperly. If it breaks, S&W will still repair it.

[Arik]

Originally Posted by CavScout 00

I figure this would be well known if that was the case because I don't know an instructor that would recommend a firearm without a slide release. One hand weapon manipulation scenarios would be a no go.

The same way us lefties do it. By using the slide. Most guns arnt ambidextrous

[Elliot45]

CavScout 00, I too thought the same same as you regarding the 9mm M&P Pro I just purchased. Nice to know that it isn't a slide release on a S&W but it is on my Colt Gold Cup, my Springfield XDS, my Browning Buckmark, my Beretta and several other semi-automatics. Unfortunately I can live with this but not the jams and other issues I'm having on my Pro that I mention in my recent post. Just wanted to let you know that you're not alone in your thinking about the slide release. Regards, Jim

[427mach1]

Originally Posted by Elliot45

CavScout 00, I too thought the same same as you regarding the 9mm M&P Pro I just purchased. Nice to know that it isn't a slide release on a S&W but it is on my Colt Gold Cup, my Springfield XDS, my Browning Buckmark, my Beretta and several other semi-automatics. Unfortunately I can live with this but not the jams and other issues I'm having on my Pro that I mention in my recent post. Just wanted to let you know that you're not alone in your thinking about the slide release. Regards, Jim

Jim, you might want to read your instruction manuals again. The XDS and Colt Gold Cup show a "slide stop". The Beretta models 39/29/92 show a "slide catch/hold open". You are correct regarding the Browning; it is designated as a "slide release/stop latch".

[walkin' trails]

..... Or you can sent it back to S&W for warranty service. My 9c had the same problem. Just got it back and it works. And some of us have been around long enough that we sometimes revert back to our original training and use. the lever to drop the slide...

[ATF]

I release all my guns onto a loaded mag using the slide lock. Never had a problem, but I was taught never to do it on an empty mag because that slams the slide. YMMV.

[CavScout 00]

If a military and police firearm has a non functioning slide release and the mall ninjas call it part of the weapon and defend it. Then this has to be the jabroni edition of all firearms.

I will gladly take my money back

[CavScout 00]

Originally Posted by ATF

I release all my guns onto a loaded mag using the slide lock. Never had a problem, but I was taught never to do it on an empty mag because that slams the slide. YMMV.

Yep and i dont eat lead paint for a hobby either. Read my post above.

[CavScout 00]

Originally Posted by 427mach1

Jim, you might want to read your instruction manuals again. The XDS and Colt Gold Cup show a "slide stop". The Beretta models 39/29/92 show a "slide catch/hold open". You are correct regarding the Browning; it is designated as a "slide release/stop latch".

I hope your a spokesman for smith and wesson. Id love to take this firearm to any professional instructor and bable the **** you just said. They would be preaching do not buy the m&p

[ATF]

Originally Posted by CavScout 00

Yep and i dont eat lead paint for a hobby either. Read my post above.

With respect I don't know anyone who would buy a gun without racking the slide and testing the trigger and reset at least a dozen or two times.

Something is wrong so either send it to S&W or see if your gunshop can sort it out. Anyway hope you get the matter resolved.

[kbm6893]

It's not a slide release. It's a slide stop. And even though you usually CAN drop the slide lock to release the slide, it's not its intended purpose. When I went through the police academy, we were taught to pull the slide to the rear to release the lock. You get a little more momentum to chamber a round that way, and lefties have no choice anyway.

If what you claim is true, then gun makers are screwing left handed shooters by not making the slide stop ambidextrous.

The M&P is a good polymer striker fired weapon, but it's not in the same class as a Colt Gold Cup, a Beretta 92, or many other semi suto's. I get that you're disappointed, but the gun is not defective. Learn to live with it or sell it for a loss.

As for instructors opinions, I've seen and heard instructors do and say stupid things. And most of the students don't know any better. What credentials do you need to be an "instructor"? A good instructor would advise his students to choose a weapon that feels good in their hands and that they shoot well, and not to focus on the slide stop being a liability in the extremely unlikely scenario of reloading a weapon in the middle of a gunfight. Are those the same instructors who advise their students that a safety will get you killed and a mag disconnect will also get you killed since you can't do a tactical reload in the middle of a gunfight, as if anybody other than. Navy SEAL would have the presence of mind or the skill to do so?

[00 buck]

Originally Posted by 427mach1

I think you will find that most modern pistols have a slide STOP, not a slide RELEASE. Many people mistakenly refer to them as a slide release. While it is possible to make it function as a slide release, it is not recommended. Read your owner's manual and you will see it is referred to as a slide stop. My M&P manual shows a slide stop. My Ruger manual shows a slide stop. Glocks have a slide stop.

One hand operation is possible buy hooking the rear sight and pushing forward on the grip, thereby moving the slide rearward.

Only on the internet .......makes me feel tired all over.

[Muss Muggins]

Here are the two tests that Smith and Wesson will perform on your firearm:

First test: With an empty magazine inserted, the armorer will pull the slide to the rear. When/if the slide locks back, the armorer will remove the magazine. The armorer will then pull the slide to the rear again and release it, to determine if the slide stop releases and the slide travels forward into battery and the slide stop doesn't inadvertently engage.

Second test: The armorer will reinsert an empty magazine and pull the slide to the rear, locking it back. The armorer will remove the empty magazine and insert a magazine prepared with dummy rounds. The armorer will then pull the slide to the rear again and release it, to determine if the slide stop releases and the slide travels forward into battery, while loading a round. The armorer will probably work the slide again two or three times to see if the firearm loads and ejects properly, and the slide stop lever doesn't inadvertently engage. The armorer will then remove the magazine, work the slide to the remove the last round, and let the slide travel forward, again to determine that the slide stop lever doesn't inadvertently engage.

That is all that device is designed to do. The slide stop lever is forced upward by a the magazine follower. When the slide stop cut in the slide gets back to the slide stop lever, if the magazine is now empty, the lever is forced into place. The lever is held in place by the force created by the recoil spring attempting to move the slide back into battery. In order to make it easier for your digits to force the lever down, you have to reduce the power of the recoil spring or polish/otherwise alter the rear surface of the slide stop lever or the front surface of the slide stop notch, any of which carrying with them the possibility that a malfunction situation will be created.

Here endeth the lesson. If one is not happy with the way the firearm functions, by all means send it back, but be prepared to be told it is working as it should. If you don't like that answer, be prepared to purchase a different firearm.

My Smith's don't work like my Sig's don't work like my Glock's don't work like my H&K's don't work like my Springfield's work. That's part of the fun of this hobby.

[ankona]

Just get a Glock.

[hardluk1]

cavscout Act like a big boy and operate the handgun as you were taught in the army ,as you are taught to rack the slide to chamber a round or to clear a jamb . OR Contact s&w about the tough function of the slide lock and let them tune it with out all the whininess .

You were given some advise how you could maybe fix the issue BUT common sense could have done the same .

So your options are , Get your m&p fixed as You should know that all maker have a few problems . You can try to common sense the fix your self but that looks to be out of the question or sell it and buy some other brand and hope its problem free or you will start off with something sounding the same as you post here .

Good luck in the future .

[martybee]

Originally Posted by kbm6893

It's not a slide release. It's a slide stop. And even though you usually CAN drop the slide lock to release the slide, it's not its intended purpose. When I went through the police academy, we were taught to pull the slide to the rear to release the lock. You get a little more momentum to chamber a round that way, and lefties have no choice anyway.

If what you claim is true, then gun makers are screwing left handed shooters by not making the slide stop ambidextrous.

The M&P is a good polymer striker fired weapon, but it's not in the same class as a Colt Gold Cup, a Beretta 92, or many other semi suto's. I get that you're disappointed, but the gun is not defective. Learn to live with it or sell it for a loss.

I agree it is not intended to be a slide release. It does raise some questions though; If it is not a to be used to release the slide, chamber a round, and if "Lefties have no choice on using it because it is not ambidextrous", Why does S&W put it on both sides?

mb

[MyDads38]

When someone asks me "can I ask you a question?", I always respond with "you can ask me anything, just be prepared for the answer because it may not be what you want to hear". There are at least 2 responses to a question-1) the one you WANT to hear/get or 2) the OPPOSITE of what you want to hear/get.

The S&W Forum is an amazing place, with some very nice, helpful and knowledgeable people. Have you noticed that most of the responses were similar? Sometimes looking through an owner's manual can answer your question, and then you can say to yourself "so that's how that works/goes/fits". If it's still not clear, you can get on the "net" and come to a place like this, ask a question or ask for help and usually, folks are glad to do so. Been there, done that; and I appreciated it very much.

No reason to get defensive with folks here because the answer you got, wasn't the answer you wanted to hear. I don't operate either of my M&P's or my SD VE series guns as if they have a slide release, because it's a slide lock. I'm sure if you keep the M&P, you'll have other questions that you'll want to ask, and that's okay too. But if you're new to the M&P platform/series of guns (like I was); you may want to read through the owner's manual at least once. Otherwise, we'll be here to help, if/when you need it. :-)

[Watchdog]

Originally Posted by CavScout 00

You mean to tell me that a handgun targeted for Military and Police does not have a slide release?

It's "officially" known as a slide stop. Some people call it a slide release, simply because you can release the slide with it. Far as I'm concerned, it doesn't matter what it's called...it performs both functions, and performs them very well.

I use it to release the slide to chamber a round on my 1911s and my Glocks. I know a bunch of other experienced shooters who do the same thing. The pistol isn't undergoing any more force by releasing the slide that way than it does by the process of firing the pistol, or by pulling the slide back and releasing it to chamber a round.

If a pistol can't take the slide being released using the slide stop lever, then far as I'm concerned, it's an inferior weapon, and I won't have one.

[catcus-jack]

Directly from one of my M&P manuals in red letters it says " UPON FIRING THE PISTOL OR RELEASING THE SLIDE FROM THE SLIDE STOP,THE SLIDE MOVES FORWARD WITH SIGNIFICANT FORCE AND SPEED"One of my Beretta 92 manuals states To fire again ,remove empty magazine and insert a loaded one .Press the slide catch to load the chamber and close the slide.(Fig 12) The slide can also be closed for chamber loading by simply retracting and releasing the slide.After that I didn't check any other manuals.Both methods are ok.The only time S&W mentions grasping the slide and pulling back and releasing is when you are loading the empty gun and the slide is forward.I say get off the computer and read your owners manual again.

[kbm6893]

Originally Posted by martybee

I agree it is not intended to be a slide release. It does raise some questions though; If it is not a to be used to release the slide, chamber a round, and if "Lefties have no choice on using it because it is not ambidextrous", Why does S&W put it on both sides?

mb

It's on both sides? Didn't know that. None of my semi suto's have dual slide locks. I still wouldn't use it to drop the slide

[Muss Muggins]

Originally Posted by kbm6893

It's on both sides? Didn't know that. None of my semi suto's have dual slide locks. I still wouldn't use it to drop the slide

I don't own an M&P, so I searched the brochure. Sho' 'nuff. There's one on each side. Only pistol I'm aware of built that way, but doesn't mean there aren't more. Learn something new every day.

[hardluk1]

All this over some guy that has a minor problem that he should have been able to figure out all by himself . Grow up guys .

[Saudade]

The confusion comes from other manufacturers making them with slide "releases". My SP2022, M9A1 call them a slide catch can clearly state to press down with your thumb to release.

On my PPQ, it's called a stop, but still says to press down with your thumb to release. It also says to pull the slide fully rearward to make release easier.

It's called a slide release on an HK VP9 and use your thumb.

On a Sig P320, it's called a catch and you rack the slide.

BTW, the P320, PPQ and VP9 are ambi as well.

[Lee in Quartzsite]

Originally Posted by hardluk1

.........that he should have been able to figure out all by himself .

......if he had read the Owner's Manual first.

[Watchdog]

Originally Posted by hardluk1

All this over some guy that has a minor problem that he should have been able to figure out all by himself . Grow up guys .

[buzzkillbob]

To the OP, I'm one of those people that doesn't get wrapped around the axle about terminology. Slide lock, slide release. Magazine, clip. Whatever, as long as I know what you're talking about, I don't care if you call it a "thingamajig". Although, I'm not sure why the collective audience is giving you such a hard time, I think you covered your bases here:

Originally Posted by CavScout 00

...the slide stop/release...

Perhaps I'm just stupid (very likely in fact), but I've always used the "slide stop" to release the slide. Of course the manufacture would consider that "abusive". It covers their behinds.

[walkin' trails]

... And when my M&Ps auto-forward much of the time when performing a slide lock reload, as do my Glocks, I think it's a moot point. What is at issue is when the thingamajig that is supposed to lock back the slide and release it seems like it's jammed up and won't release by pressing after ejecting a spent mag. When you own more than two of the same pistols and the others work, you know there's a problem.

[MichiganScott]

Originally Posted by hardluk1

All this over some guy that has a minor problem that he should have been able to figure out all by himself .

The problem is that the OP asked a question and did not like the answers he received. It's human nature to need validation of our preconceived views and ideas for our self-esteem. He did not get that validation and insists that he is right, Smith & Wesson engineers are clueless as to how a pistol should be handled in the "real world", and anyone that disagrees with him needs lessons from his instructors that never would have recommended the M&P if it did not have a slide release. Apparently his instructors never read the owner's manual either.

If this was not enough, the OP then insults the M&P by declaring it must have been designed as it was simply to make other polymer guns look good (jabroni), and declares that he will gladly take his money back. This is, afterall, a Smith and Wesson forum and it should not be surprising that most of us are very happy with them.

[NCW Ray]

Originally Posted by CavScout 00

Just ordered a brand new M&P 9. Test fire was 02/04. After good initial cleaning and lube I noticed that the slide stop/release is so hard to release its almost border line of needing struck by an object. I can get it to drop but it takes two thumbs and a lot of pressure. I did it 3 times to see if it would loosen up but quit because i was putting so much pressure it felt like it might break.

I went to my local gun shop and looked at some new ones there. They didnt have the issue at all. One 40 was a little tight but felt like it could be broken in easily.

I had a buddy look at it that is an M&P goro and informed me that they come stiff. He said he has never seen or heard of one being that hard after handling it. I watched his face turn a couple of shades of red trying to release it and he couldnt.

Looks like ill be contacting S&W before even shooting the thing. This could have been avoided if they would just have checked it.

My "slide stop" was extremely hard to operate with my thumb too. What I did was lube the notch in the slide where the slide stop comes into contact with it and then repeatedly released the slide with it. After numerous releases I am now able to operate it easily with my thumb. I did put on a pair of gloves to protect my thumb while doing this. I did this to all 5 of the M&P's my family has. All of them can be released by thumb now if the need should arise.

And ALSO... just because the "Slide Stop" is "Conveniently" located so as your thumb(s) can "Easily" manipulate it, and it "Conveniently" has "Nice Slip Resistant Serrations" on it doesn't mean it's supposed to be used as a "Slide Release".

[KAC]

A couple of points. 1. The slide stop is ambi on the M&P so that left handers can engage it easily. 2. Glock from day one has trained that their slide stop/catch is to be used as that only, not as a release. You will never hear them refer to it otherwise.

[Muss Muggins]

Originally Posted by KAC

A couple of points. 1. The slide stop is ambi on the M&P so that left handers can engage it easily. 2. Glock from day one has trained that their slide stop/catch is to be used as that only, not as a release. You will never hear them refer to it otherwise.

I don't know if I speak for all southpaws or not, but after about 35 years of engaging the slide stop with the tip of my left index finger,and never using it to move the slide forward, I'm pretty sure that I would ignore that device if it was suddenly on the right side of the pistol. As for Glock, you are 100% correct. When the FBI went to Glock, they (the FBI) insisted that the slide stop lever be easier to manipulate, hence the availability of the "extended slide stop lever." My understanding is that the addition was much protested and debated at Glock, Inc., and was almost a dealbreaker on Glock's part. I kinda like 'em myself, and have them on all five of my Glock pistols.

[kbm6893]

I just tried it on my 3 semi auto's, a Beretta 92FS, a Ruger SR9, and a Ruger LC9-S. SR9 and beretta I can drop the slide lock to chamber a round. On my LC9-S, I can't budge it at all. No big deal since I don't use it to chamber a round.

[moxie]

Originally Posted by kbm6893

It's on both sides? Didn't know that. None of my semi suto's have dual slide locks. I still wouldn't use it to drop the slide

Yes, the slide is on both sides of the frame on M&Ps.

[Muss Muggins]

Originally Posted by kbm6893

I just tried it on my 3 semi auto's, a Beretta 92FS, a Ruger SR9, and a Ruger LC9-S. SR9 and beretta I can drop the slide lock to chamber a round. On my LC9-S, I can't budge it at all. No big deal since I don't use it to chamber a round.

Another reason that my H&K P7 is probably my favorite pistol, bar none. The slide stop is a button at the rear of the frame that you press in while holding the slide back. There is no way to manually release the slide stop except to manipulate the slide.

[CavScout 00]

Originally Posted by hardluk1

cavscout Act like a big boy and operate the handgun as you were taught in the army ,as you are taught to rack the slide to chamber a round or to clear a jamb . OR Contact s&w about the tough function of the slide lock and let them tune it with out all the whininess .

You were given some advise how you could maybe fix the issue BUT common sense could have done the same .

So your options are , Get your m&p fixed as You should know that all maker have a few problems . You can try to common sense the fix your self but that looks to be out of the question or sell it and buy some other brand and hope its problem free or you will start off with something sounding the same as you post here .

Good luck in the future .

What advice was I given??? Other than its not supposed to release thr slide even though a majority of them do. And just because I wasnt pleased with something doesnt mean your whinning.

[CavScout 00]

[QUOTE=MichiganScott;138425821]The problem is that the OP asked a question and did not like the answers he received. It's human nature to need validation of our preconceived views and ideas for our self-esteem. He did not get that validation and insists that he is right, Smith & Wesson engineers are clueless as to how a pistol should be handled in the "real world", and anyone that disagrees with him needs lessons from his instructors that never would have recommended the M&P if it did not have a slide release. Apparently his instructors never read the owner's manual either.

If this was not enough, the OP then insults the M&P by declaring it must have been designed as it was simply to make other polymer guns look good (jabroni), and declares that he will gladly take his money back. This is, afterall, a Smith and Wesson forum and it should not be surprising that most of us are very happy with them.[/QUOTE,]

All i got was smart remarks and its not to function that way but a majority of them do. What sense does that make. Obviously theres an issue

[Kanewpadle]

Why come here and complain BEFORE contacting S&W?

If you need help, they are the first place to go. If you need your thinking validated or to be consoled, you're in the wrong place.

As evidenced in previous posts, we all think different. Doesn't mean you're right and we're wrong or vice versa.

Your problem is not at all unusual. The slide should be released by pulling it to the rear. Under stress, you will miss the slide lock. And if you have to clear a malfunction, using the slide release is not part of the process.

Shoot the gun.

[CavScout 00]

FOUND A FIX...... http://youtu.be/QbeGB5BUelU

Someone sent me this video on another forum. I figured this is what needed to be done. Just wanted to make sure there wasn't anything else going on.

[Fishinfool]

While it can be used as a slide release, it is not its intended purpose. I believe the reason the little finger pads exist on the slide lock are so the slide can be locked open when a magazine is not present.

Larry

[CavScout 00]

Originally Posted by Kanewpadle

Why come here and complain BEFORE contacting S&W?

If you need help, they are the first place to go. If you need your thinking validated or to be consoled, you're in the wrong place.

As evidenced in previous posts, we all think different. Doesn't mean you're right and we're wrong or vice versa.

Your problem is not at all unusual. The slide should be released by pulling it to the rear. Under stress, you will miss the slide lock. And if you have to clear a malfunction, using the slide release is not part of the process.

Shoot the gun.

Well S&W was closed.... It was Saturday. .... I planned on calling them Monday. Turns out its a common problem... Found a solution and helpful advice on another forum.

thought i might get helpful information here, i was wrong.

All i got from here is its a slide stop, its not supposed to release the slide even though a majority of M&P pistols do it without any issue. So if it releases the slide is not defective according to the manual and the minds here? Thats pretty much what everyone is saying here