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Old 05-07-2012, 02:55 PM
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I'm bummed out that I cannot get a Shield without a safety. I'm probably not going to get a Shield. I'm at peace with that notion. That said, can someone please describe how the safety works? I know how the "classic" M&P safety works by simply blocking trigger movement. Is the Shield's safety different than the rest of the M&P line?
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The Shield is my 1st M&P so all I know is it seems to just block the trigger. The slide still moves etc... I like having it myself, it's very unobtrusive and it's good for pocket carry IMHO.
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The safety is small, use it or not to use it is your choice.

I carry a 1911 COCKED AND LOCKED at times, so the removal of the safety is automatic with the draw stroke.
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The safety blocks the trigger bar from moving in the Sear. It does not lock the slide as it does in the Ruger LC-9. My Shield is my first M&P with a safety...my full size and compact do not have one and I prefer it that way. Since I have no option with the Shield I will only use the safety for re-holstering. Once the gun is in the holster I click the safety off making it just like my other M&P's.

Denying yourself ownership of a new and great gun based upon a simple little switch really doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. Just leave it off and forget about it, problem solved. At least it doesn't have the dreaded key lock like many of the Ruger and Taurus guns.
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The safety on the Shield is so unobtrusive unlike the ones on full size and compact M&Ps it doesn't bother me. It's there if you want to use it and small enough not to bother most that won't use it. I like the idea of having it.
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I've had several M&P's and the Shield is by far my favorite for many reasons. That being said I must agree with the idea that you should not miss out on owning a great gun over what is in the end a very minor component of the gun. Sure it has a purpose yet at the same time it can be argued that a striker fired gun really doesnt need one anyway (finger off trigger saftey on, finger on trigger saftey off). The saftey itself is very small and somewhat stiff. Once it is in the off positon it is not going to easily move back to the safe postion.
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I would just be happy to find one so I can be an owner!!!
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Can it be taken out and thrown in the garbage?
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Just keep her off --


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I think they did it for legal reasons. Shor-nuff' some knot head will/would have a "Darwin Moment" and stuff it in something (pocket/purse) and snag the trigger on something. This way S&W is covered. I don't have safeties on any of my other FS M&P's and wouldn't have them with them. However,on the Shield (being that small),it is handy. It's positive on or positive off and sits tight against the side.
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The safety blocks the trigger bar from moving in the Sear. It does not lock the slide as it does in the Ruger LC-9. My Shield is my first M&P with a safety...my full size and compact do not have one and I prefer it that way. Since I have no option with the Shield I will only use the safety for re-holstering. Once the gun is in the holster I click the safety off making it just like my other M&P's.

Denying yourself ownership of a new and great gun based upon a simple little switch really doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. Just leave it off and forget about it, problem solved. At least it doesn't have the dreaded key lock like many of the Ruger and Taurus guns.
Love the plan for safety use. That's exactly what I'm planning on doing once they make their way out here.
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The safety blocks the trigger bar from moving in the Sear. It does not lock the slide as it does in the Ruger LC-9. My Shield is my first M&P with a safety...my full size and compact do not have one and I prefer it that way. Since I have no option with the Shield I will only use the safety for re-holstering. Once the gun is in the holster I click the safety off making it just like my other M&P's.

Denying yourself ownership of a new and great gun based upon a simple little switch really doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. Just leave it off and forget about it, problem solved. At least it doesn't have the dreaded key lock like many of the Ruger and Taurus guns.
Well said!
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The safety on the Shield is so unobtrusive unlike the ones on full size and compact M&Ps...
Agreed. If it was like the large lever type safety on the compact and full size M&P's I wouldn't want it there. However it's like the safety on the BG380 which is unobtrusive and requires conscious effort to activate and deactivate.

Another vote for no plan to use it but doesn't bother me that it's there.
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I don't understand the refusal to buy what is one of the best handguns out there because of a relatively inconsequential device. The safety does serve a purpose (it appeases my daughter who has a curious 4-year-old, so she allows my son-in-law to have his), but if it's not your thing, just don't use it. It's small enough and has a positive enough activation that I don't see how you could engage it accidentally. I don't use it on mine, and haven't thought twice about it.
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Can it be taken out and thrown in the garbage?
I personally would HIGHLY recommend NOT removing the safety from any gun you intend to carry. I just have to believe that if, God forbid, you had to use it for its intended purpose, the court system would have no problem throwing you under the jail!!!!!


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I LIKE the safety on the m&p serious. It's very much 1911 like and gives me a place to rest my thumb. On the Shield...it was easy to sweep off but wouldn't be so if your hands were wet and most likely not easy to take off in a high stress situation unless you had much much training in doing so.
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What safety. Just kidding but I don't even pay attention as it is not in the way at all.
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Can't find the post from this forum entered a few wks ago in which someone stated with apparent certainty that the safety indeed CAN be removed and that S&W can provide the instructions and for a fee a dead plug for the hole the lever comes out of. Can't verify the accuracy of the claim, guess you could always call S&W and ask. The safety doesn't bother me. As mentioned by others, it's pretty unobtrusive and positive in its actuation either on or off. Anythings possible but would think it pretty unlikely one would find it accidentally in either the on or off position. Mine requires intentional effort to engage/disengage.
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The safety blocks the trigger bar from moving in the Sear. It does not lock the slide as it does in the Ruger LC-9. My Shield is my first M&P with a safety...my full size and compact do not have one and I prefer it that way. Since I have no option with the Shield I will only use the safety for re-holstering. Once the gun is in the holster I click the safety off making it just like my other M&P's.

Denying yourself ownership of a new and great gun based upon a simple little switch really doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. Just leave it off and forget about it, problem solved. At least it doesn't have the dreaded key lock like many of the Ruger and Taurus guns.
Chambering a round with the safety for me is a + and then I also sweep the safety off after holstering. I have a Taurus Slim with the silly key lock and I just do not use it.
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I am looking to buy a Shield asap (as soon as I can find one). As a long time 1911 shooter, I'd love to have the same extended safety lever my M&P40FS and M&P22 have on the Shield.

For those that don't care for the thumb safety, I can see why they wouldn't want their Shield to have one. For me, I am very glad to see that S&W included the thumb safety, but am surprised that they don't offer versions with and without it like the rest of the line.
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I'm bummed out that I cannot get a Shield without a safety. I'm probably not going to get a Shield. I'm at peace with that notion. That said, can someone please describe how the safety works? I know how the "classic" M&P safety works by simply blocking trigger movement. Is the Shield's safety different than the rest of the M&P line?
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Felt the same way but I got over it real quick after first range session. The safety is flush and you could ignore the safety and rely on the holster. I decided to train sweeping safety when I draw and it has been ok. I can draw from pocket holster sweep safety in about one second. I ordered some big dots with the goal of drawing sweep acquire 7 yard Target shoot in 1.5 seconds.

Eliminating the three dot sights for big dot will more than make up for loss time sweeping safety.

The short break with the trigger is another reason I decided to use safety.

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I agree with you, BUT mine is so hard to engage, I don't worry about it.
I also don't mess with it--wouldn't want it to loosen up.
That said, your sentiment is SOOOO common, I'm betting Apex or one of the other parts makers WILL make a patch/safety remover of some sort before long. I'm fine with waiting.
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Don't deny yourself buying a fine pistol just because it has a safety. Just don't use it. Remove it or have it removed or just ignore it. Most M&Ps full size & compact come without a safety but some have a lever activated safety & some have the lever removed & the safety activated with the tool found in the grip (the "sear deactivater tool"). Something like that might be good for storage of the pistol but I wouldn't want to have to deal with it if I needed the pistol in action fast. If that was the only handgun I could buy I'd plug the hole & forget about it.
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The safety cannot be removed but it CAN be disabled. You have to trim a piece of the safety bar. The bar cannot be left off the gun because it is what keeps the sear pin in place. There's a nice vid on youtube about it here:

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The only form of safety i use on my Shield is my trigger finger. Its habit to never put my finger anywhere near the trigger unless im ready to use it. And of course during the take down, but thats after im sure the weapon is cleared.

During a real self defense situation if u have time to click the safety, chances are you'll be dead before you ever squeeze the trigger.
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