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Old 03-11-2014, 04:12 PM
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I dont see what all the fuss is about

My Shield is very easy to take down even with the yellow clip.

Pull the trigger Really I like the little yellow Thing
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Default My Yellow lever will NOT go back up.

I just purchased the shield, followed all of the manual, AND also have a friend who is a gun expert, not very familiar with the Shield, but still if you knew what he owned, well.., anyways. My Shield was just fired for the first time since the purchase this last month at the local range. Went to clean it, followed all directions in manual and the yellow pin will NOT go back up. Won't go back up with trying to put the magazine in either. Very weird. I don't know what to do. Can anyone help!? please!!

Your post below says inserting the magazine puts "the yellow widget back in place" mine is not doing that and it is brand new. Not even a month old. Read the manual, everything. Can't figure out why. Also, didn't realize that you can pull the trigger to release the slide. Weird. My fiance's Ruger is not like that at all. We both have 9mm.

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The little lever is there because every year, numerous people prove that removing the magazine and clearing the chamber before field stripping is entirely too complex. Taking "pull the trigger" out of the process for field stripping eliminates the possibility of bad things happening.

It also makes it crystal clear that if you do have an ND (negligent discharge) you didn't follow the manufacturers directions and thereby assume all liability. In some cases, you also violate agency/departmental training and/or regulations putting the idiot in question in more trouble.

Since inserting the magazine flips the widget up, there's really no big deal about it. After cleaning and with slide in battery, insert mag, charge chamber and place in the holster.
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I found that if you push the yellow widget to far it will get snagged. At least on my 40c. I can not speak for the shield but can tell you that S&W customer service is quick and very helpful. Try giving them a call.
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Never heard of that. However, the post immediately above gives some help. The little lever doesn't really need any force to be lowered, just a wee flick. I would guess that if excessive pressure was used, you could jam the lever.

As above, call S&W customer service. Please let us know how it turns out.

Except for really basic stuff (pull trigger, gun fires) most brands of firearms have differences. Just like Ford & Chevy.
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One other (rather silly yeah, but it did happen) reason I like using the take down lever is I had an incident one time where I was taking the slide off by pulling the trigger and for some reason the slide popped forward with such force it surprised me and I dropped my slide onto the table. Luckily it didn't fly off further and hit the ground and mar the slide or bend something important. Usually it just pops forward a little bit but this time my slide just took off like a rocket. weird I know, but now I always use the little yellow take down lever. I like it better.

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I would not want to be around someone that needs the lever.
Not everyone in society has what it takes to own a gun, no shame it that.
I worked with a guy that got his first gun, within one week he shot two fingers while he was playing with it at home. Pulled the trigger on an "Empty" gun while he had his weak hand holding the muzzle. Wife came home, took the gun away thankfully. He kept insisting the gun was unloaded even after he shot himself.
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This thread started in May 2012 I can't believe it is still active. Don
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I have a brand new 9 mm shield with manual safety, no magazine disconnect, no yellow tab. only to remove slide is pull the trigger
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Maybe its there, just not yellow so it doesn't stand out?
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In the interest of safety, I suggest a round magazine that can be swung to one side, out of battery, to ensure the pistol is unloaded. This may take further research but I think the idea is worth investigating.
I neglected to say that I propose that that the cartridges remain in, and be fired from, the round magazine. If the rounds never enter the barrel, they cannot be overlooked.
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In the interest of safety, I suggest a round magazine that can be swung to one side, out of battery, to ensure the pistol is unloaded. This may take further research but I think the idea is worth investigating.
I neglected to say that I propose that that the cartridges remain in, and be fired from, the round magazine. If the rounds never enter the barrel, they cannot be overlooked.
That gun is going to have a very wide grip if I am understanding what you are saying. Don
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I thought of a good name for that innovative design.
A Rotator, or maybe Revolve - er.

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In the interest of safety, I suggest a round magazine that can be swung to one side, out of battery, to ensure the pistol is unloaded. This may take further research but I think the idea is worth investigating.
I neglected to say that I propose that that the cartridges remain in, and be fired from, the round magazine.
I don't think this will catch on. It sounds like there will be limited capacity and, as we all know, maximum capacity is paramount.
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Wow I'm glad I found this thread. I thought I was going crazy. I found out while field stripping my Smith and Wesson M&P Shield 9 that you can flip the lever or pull the trigger. Didn't make sense to me. So I searched for videos hoping someone can explain. I found these:

Videos saying to pull the trigger:


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I guess its a moot point, I personally have no problem pulling the lever, even if it isn't required.

Loving my Shield 9. 100% reliable. Comfortable. Accurate.

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Just picked-up my new M&P shield 9mm the other day.Was going through the field stripping instructions, got to the part where you lower the sear deactivation lever.I pushed the lever down and it fell right out the bottom of the mag well.I started searching the Internet for some way to put it back in.Called Smith&Wesson,they sent me a label to send it back, time,2or3 weeks to get fixed and back to me.I found this web site,you guys answered a lot of questions for me.I saw where S&W left a pin out of the spring that holds the lever.Armed with the information learned here, I removed the spring,put it and the lever in the box and the pistol works fine without it. I just use the trigger to remove the slide.
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why is it that so many people feel that they are too much of an expert to read the manual that comes with firearms?They give it to you for a reason,if you read it you will know what each control does or doesnt do.we have too may people who feel they are smarter than the people who make the weapons,but they are not.
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Lawyer stuff.
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That and police department requests because politician and insurance company stuff.
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Personally, I like the lever. Keeps the stripping sequence consistent and defined. Rack the slide, flip the takedown lever, drop the mag, flip the sear diconnect (with pinky), release the slide. No WAY for an AD.


Yes but the very first step ejects any chambered round. This is why this makes no sense to me.

~Edited to say: Post #21 answered my question.

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You know, this is funny because I read a lot of comments/complaints from people who don't like having to pull the trigger to field strip a Glock.

I guess it just goes to show that no one thing will please everyone...no offense to the OP intended. Good thing we live in America, and have choices and options!
In America we could be required to fill out forms to field strip a gun.


On the subject. My sear lever isn't painted, it's small and it's dark in there. My eyes ain't that hot either. I'm getting better at feeling for it. Other than that I don't mind it. It's simple. Nice to know that you can pull the trigger if I get caught without my little screwdriver or nail file that seems to be the best thing to catch the lever with.
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Yes but the very first step ejects any chambered round. This is why this makes no sense to me.
Good point. On the M&P you must lock the slide back to operate the take down lever. On a Glock, no such movement of the slide is necessary. That may be why the Glock has so many NDs during field stripping.

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Then again, what if the round wasn't extracted/ejected? If there was a broken extractor or it didn't grip the case for some reason (yes, I've seen this happen), then the gun would fire when you pulled the trigger. If you've used the sear deactivation lever, the gun won't fire for any reason.

I'm still going to say the sear deactivation lever is the best policy.
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Revived zombie thread, but so what?

Procedure one: Lock the slide back. Operate the sear deactivation lever. Turn the takedown lever. Release the slide. Remove the slide.

Procedure two: Lock the slide back. Turn the takedown lever. Release the slide. Pull the trigger. Remove the slide.

What critical first step is missing from both of these procedures? ASSURE THAT THERE IS NO MAGAZINE IN THE GUN AND THAT THERE IS NO ROUND IN THE CHAMBER.

If you omit this critical first step using procedure one, the worst that could happen is that you might say, "Dang, where did that round come from?"

If you omit this critical first step using procedure two, the gun might go BANG!

When guns unexpectedly go bang, that's when lawyers for the injured plaintiff go to work. Installing a sear deactivation lever and recommending its use is cheaper than paying defense lawyers.
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Yes but the very first step ejects any chambered round. This is why this makes no sense to me.

~Edited to say: Post #21 answered my question.
I can't think of any armorer classes I've attended, involving pistols or rifles with removable magazines, which ever listed disassembly/unloading instructions with the manual retraction & cycling of the slide as the first step in the process.

Instead, it's the removal of the magazine (where the bullets live) that occurs first, and then the retraction of the slide to empty the chambered round.

There have seemingly been no particular shortage of gun owners/users who cycled the slide first, extracting & ejecting the chambered round .... and then allowed the slide to go forward on a loaded magazine, chambering another round ... and then they removed the magazine, and pulled the trigger (if required for field-stripping, by design), only to have the result being a very loud noise and a hole in something/someone.

Even the owner safety manual lists removing the magazine as the first step.
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On the subject. My sear lever isn't painted, it's small and it's dark in there. My eyes ain't that hot either. I'm getting better at feeling for it. Other than that I don't mind it. It's simple. Nice to know that you can pull the trigger if I get caught without my little screwdriver or nail file that seems to be the best thing to catch the lever with.
Yeah, they need to let the yellow paint guy go. He or she almost got a little paint on mine.
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Just another way S&W have "lawyered" up to protect themselves.
Can't win. People cry that you have to pull the trigger and it's dangerous a d gets people killed. When a lever is added in a place that forces you to pull the slide back and visually see that there is no mag and nothing chambered while pulling the lever without the use of the trigger then it's nothing but protection against lawsuits.

Someone should invent a gun where the owner says abracadabra and the gun magically appears already disassembled

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There have seemingly been no particular shortage of gun owners/users who cycled the slide first, extracting & ejecting the chambered round .... and then allowed the slide to go forward on a loaded magazine, chambering another round ... and then they removed the magazine, and pulled the trigger (if required for field-stripping, by design), only to have the result being a very loud noise and a hole in something/someone.
This right here is why it's valuable to use the lever. People get the order backward all the time. This is why the military makes good use of clearing barrels. Anyone who's ever been in a combat arena has likely heard a shot fired into a clearing barrel because the order was reversed.

This is why checking the chamber twice is good. This is why requiring the trigger to be pulled to field strip is bad.
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I try to use the yellow lever when field stripping but there have been times that I didn't have a pen or other devise handy to push it down due to my pudgy paws so in those occasions I have to trigger pull to break down.
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You don't carry a pocket knife?

EDIT: Wait. What possible reason could you have for doing a field strip when you didn't have something that could move the lever?
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New owner here of S&W Shield 9mm. I'm also new to using a sear deactivation lever when field stripping a gun. I guess I got used to field stripping a GLOCK for years. Anyways, since I'm not used to that "yellow lever", after I reassembled the Shield (slide and all), I tried pulling on the trigger and it won't "click". Tried it a few times and still nothing! I started to panic a little bit wondering if I broke the trigger, until I realized that the yellow lever is still "down"! So I inserted a magazine to push the lever up and tried the trigger again and voila! It worked! I guess when that lever is down the trigger won't work? Am I correct?
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No amount of extra steps is going to protect an idiot. If they really wanted to do something clever the takedown lever itself would deactivate the sear. Then even if the gun was chambered when you tried to take it down you couldn't make it fire. Until then I think I'll just unload my gun properly before working on it like I was taught fifty years ago.
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Try reading the manual.
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I guess when that lever is down the trigger won't work? Am I correct?
Correct. However, there is no normal situation where it will actually prevent the gun from working. As soon as a magazine is inserted, the lever is pushed back up.
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I bought my Shield 9mm back in Sep 2015. I pushed the yellow sear lever down and have never seen it again. 527 rounds later it remains hidden.
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Just a few weeks ago there was a ND near our home where 3 got injured, None too seriously IIRC..... The culprit?, Trying to take gun apart and there was a live one in the chamber. Can NEVER bee too safe with guns.
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I’m finding I have to adjust the yellow sear to put the the slide back on again on my shield plus. So in essence the sear needs to be fiddled with twice during field assembly and disassembly. Once if you use the trigger.
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