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Old 07-10-2012, 08:24 PM
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I have a brand new mp9mm pro. I shot for the first time today. 50 rounds. I noticed the take up was terribly gritty...why? I thought these pro series models were built to higher standards. I was told it would get smoother in time. Just a little diapointed. Can anyone put my mind to ease?....Thanks
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The three I own are all gritty feeling when dry fired, but I never notice it when using live ammo. Yours will smooth out over time, but probably not to your expectations. I'm happy with the stock triggers, but you might want to look into one of the Apex kits.
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Same issue. Bought a new M&P 45 and shot first time with about 20 rds thru it today. Very gritty. Guess I'm spoiled from my K frames, but I expected a little better. What is this apex kit?
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I had just the Apex sear installed in my M&P VTAC, and the results was a smoother trigger, also had the pull reduced from 6# pull to roughly a 3.8#

As Scott said in time the gritty feeling will smooth out somewhat.
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Same issue. Bought a new M&P 45 and shot first time with about 20 rds thru it today. Very gritty. Guess I'm spoiled from my K frames, but I expected a little better. What is this apex kit?
Apex is a trigger group for the M&P, Like i said above had just the sear installed in mine, Have heard overtime the Apex trigger has some issuses that causes it to become a dead trigger????But that is hear say.
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I have a brand new mp9mm pro. I shot for the first time today. 50 rounds. I noticed the take up was terribly gritty...why? I thought these pro series models were built to higher standards. I was told it would get smoother in time. Just a little diapointed. Can anyone put my mind to ease?....Thanks
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I'm still very new to firearms & just have my m&p9c (&my 15-22) -

Can someone please describe what it means to have a "gritty" trigger?

Since I'm a newb, is it even worth it for me to get the apex kit?

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I'm still very new to firearms & just have my m&p9c (&my 15-22) -

Can someone please describe what it means to have a "gritty" trigger?

Since I'm a newb, is it even worth it for me to get the apex kit?
During the pull of your trigger if you feel it has a rough spot almost like a grinding of material that would be "Gritty".

IMHO the M&P trigger is good for rec shooters, I shoot both IDPA and USPSA matches so i need something more reliable.

Most factory trigger are Good, but there are after market systems that are far better, Your M&P 15-22 trigger can be replaced with a Timney or a Wilson Combat and you'll be able to tell the difference.
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IMHO the M&P trigger is good for rec shooters, I shoot both IDPA and USPSA matches so i need something more reliable.
Cheers for the explanation.

I carry my 9c for SD purposes - swap out the stock trigger?
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I would suggest the Apex DCAEK (Duty Carry Enhancement Kit) and their RAM (Reset Assist Mechanism). The first will give you a 5.5 lb. pull with their supplied (stronger) spring or about 4 lbs. pull if you keep your stock trigger spring. The RAM, in addition to giving you a more clearly defined reset, also enables you to manually move the trigger forward and keep firing, should your trigger spring fail when you are firing.

There is also an aluminum AEK trigger that is icing on the cake, but I'm waiting for the release of the poly trigger in a few weeks, which should save a few dollars.

You can decide for yourself what trigger pull you feel safe with, and you can get Apex to send you whichever spring you need to make it happen. Smooth? Like butter!
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Cheers for the explanation.

I carry my 9c for SD purposes - swap out the stock trigger?
Although a lot of people on these boards will tell you it's OK to swap out the stock trigger on a gun carried for SD purposes, I wouldn't do it. There are people more versed in law than I am that claim it can and will be used against you in court, particularly if the aftermarket trigger is lighter than stock.

A righteous shooting will always be righteous, but you still have to worry about civil court afterwards or even an anti-gun prosecutor. "Members of the jury, Mr. Smith has so much disregard for human life that he altered the trigger on his pistol so that he created a hair trigger situation when the manufacturer engineered the pistol to have a pull of no less than 6.5 pounds".

You get the idea.
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Although a lot of people on these boards will tell you it's OK to swap out the stock trigger on a gun carried for SD purposes, I wouldn't do it. There are people more versed in law than I am that claim it can and will be used against you in court, particularly if the aftermarket trigger is lighter than stock.

A righteous shooting will always be righteous, but you still have to worry about civil court afterwards or even an anti-gun prosecutor. "Members of the jury, Mr. Smith has so much disregard for human life that he altered the trigger on his pistol so that he created a hair trigger situation when the manufacturer engineered the pistol to have a pull of no less than 6.5 pounds".

You get the idea.

Correct!!!!

My M&P is not my carry gun,Just for Competition.

My Carry gun is a Springfield Armory 1911 with no mods and will never have any either.
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