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Old 08-06-2012, 05:45 PM
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Ive shot around 100 rounds through my Shield 40, using both mags. I havent had a single issue yet, and hopefully I never will.
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Old 08-06-2012, 09:52 PM
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I wish I would have seen this post before. I just picked up a Shield 40 this past weekend. Tested it out when I got home, ran both full mags through it once, shot great. Shot better groups than my XD40 sub compact right from the start. Loaded up the 7rd ext. mag a second time, the mag released 4 times in 7rds. I though maybe I was hitting the release with my finger, but I was being extra careful the last couple times it dropped. I'm going to shoot it tomorrow just to make sure it's not me.
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Old 08-06-2012, 11:30 PM
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Default 2/3 Likely Not Accurate

You can't accurately say 2/3 of the general public are having the issue based on this forum (I know you stated "in this forum"). Statistics show that people that are having a problem with a product are more likely to "review" or "rate" it... or in this case, come on a forum and complain. If you are not experiencing a problem, you are a less likey to come on here and post that everything is fine.

I am sure of lot of people having the issue come on these forums for the first time in search of a solution.

That being sad, there is clearly a problem, and it is not uncommon. S&W has really dropped the ball on this and needs to put forth a full on effort to resolve the issue as soon as possible. There are a lot of unhappy customers out there because of this...

The best way to get a more accurate count would be to poll Shield owners at the LSR.


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It look likes approximately 2/3 (28 of 45 reports) of the Shield 0.40 owners in this forum are experiencing the magazine drop issue. How can S&W act so clueless? The answer is that they are not being truthful with their customers, which is worse than the problem itself. The good news is that there many choices for modern gun owners other than S&W. As for me, I've been waiting for three weeks for my magazine release replacement part - too long and not acceptable.

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Old 08-07-2012, 09:14 PM
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Yes, I have a magazine drop problem. Thought it was my thumb hitting the release under recoil. Asked the range officer to look while I fired, then he fired it. Same thing. The gunsmith had the same problem and looked into it a bit. He thinks the magazine follower is coming in contact with the mag release as it moves up during shooting. Smith wants me to send the firearm back to them for inspection.
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Old 08-08-2012, 01:24 AM
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I got my 40 shield 2 weeks ago and the first day out I had the problem with the extended mag dropping. The gun ran perfectly with the shorter mag.

I then used the blade of a screw driver to bend the upper lip (where the mag release plunges
into the mag) outward. I believe this gave it a little more surface area to catch onto and it has been perfect ever since. I have fired Federal, Ultramax, Remington JHP's and Remington Golden Sabers and have not been able to get it to drop a mag again through 200 rounds.
The mag still does drop cleanly and freely when you press the release.
I am not saying this is the final solution or even the right one but just wanted to share my experience. I went from a new gun that dropped a mag on every shot to one that fires everything smoothly and accurately.

I really, really like this pistol.

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Old 08-08-2012, 05:32 AM
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I know this thread is about the 40 shield, but I owned a bodytguard 380 for one day before I traded for a 442 because of a poorly designed mag catch. The slightest touch would eject the magazine. I do own the 9mm shield and I'm very happy with it.. I feel your pain. S&W should take a look at glocks magazine setup, they got it right.
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Old 08-09-2012, 01:46 AM
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My .40 Shield drops both mags. Sent it back for repairs. Waiting for it to be returned.

I'm a huge S&W fan (own 4 M&P pistols and an AR). The Shield .40 has a design problem that they need to fix or they will lose me and many others as a customer.
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Old 08-09-2012, 02:30 PM
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I'm looking at the Shield 40, but don't have it yet. For anyone with one magazine that does not drop and one that does, can you measure and compare the magazines (front to back and side to side) with a caliper? With any luck it will be the magazine(s) and not the mag well. If that's the case maybe S&W can replace magazine faster than they can repair the guns.
Just a thought.
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Old 08-09-2012, 03:42 PM
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I have been following this post for awhile and would like to add my observation off the problem. Im not a gun smith nor do I recommend altering your gun or parts in any way.

So I have attached two pictures. The first picture shows the magazine release, release catch and release tension bar. The second is a picture of the short mag with the magazine floor plate removed. As you can see it doesnt look like much of the magazine catch makes a lot of contact with the Mag. I have seen a few posts were the magazine is altered and you push out the top of the magazine tab that makes contact with the mag. I believe this would work. If you look at the magazines themselves they are actually tapered. If S&W were to remove that and make them more squared that would be one solution. Another would to replace the Magazine release making the catch a little longer. I was also wondering if the tension bar was a little flimsy. I dont know how it could be done but I wonder if there was a way to record the amount of pressure it took to depress the release if the DXX and DXV's took less force then the other DXT's SN M&P 40 Shields.

I personally think its has to do with the tension bar and the size of the mag catch. I think that not enough of the mag stop protrudes into the mag and during recoil the mag catch moves enough to allow the magazine to drop.

Right now I do not have an issue with my DXV numbered M&P40 Shield but I have gone and altered both my mags after reading this thread. I hope S&W does the right thing and issues a recall rather then just fixing the guns that have the problem. I know right now I dont have the problem but when my life depends on it I dont want the mag dropping after the first shot.





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Old 08-09-2012, 06:36 PM
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I was also wondering if the tension bar was a little flimsy.
cstaalin, I was wondering the same thing on my shield 9mm and definitely the bodygaurd 380 that I owned for one day. My full size M&P9 has a nice strong tension bar/spring for the magazine release. I called S&W to see if they offered a stiffer tension bar/spring for my bodygaurd 380 before I traded it. Obviously the answer was no.
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Old 08-09-2012, 06:41 PM
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Have shot over 500 rounds through mine. Have shot roughly even number with both mags. Mag dropped once or twice the first day, but I think I may have hit the release with my thumb. I do not remember which mag was the problem. I then saw comments about hitting the release with your thumb on the forum and have been conscious of it ever since. No mag drops since.

However, I have mostly been shooting five rounds at a time. (My OCD likes to have nice even numbers on all the targets when the box is gone.)

I will go home this week and fire with full mag +1 and report back. Serial #DXP0.
Got chance to go out in backyard and fire 50 rounds through my 7 round mag with +1 in the chamber. Zero drops!
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Old 08-09-2012, 09:22 PM
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Default Shield 40 on Range

Video of Shield 40 on range today... flush mag did not drop- extended was not used.

Smith & Wesson M&P Shield 40 at Range - YouTube

One handed, messing around...
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Old 08-09-2012, 09:26 PM
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Another video of Shield 40 with flush mag at range today - no mag drop through 100+ rounds. Have not used extended mag..

M&P Shield 40 at Range - Mag Drop Test - YouTube

One handed, messing around...
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Old 08-09-2012, 11:16 PM
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I had been thinking I might have a problem with the extended mag dropping. I did two things that convinced me that it isn't a gun problem, but a me problem. One I had a friend shoot it and he put several 7 round mags through without any problem. Then I really watched my grip and put a couple through. I am a lefty, and what I thought was happening, and think I confirmed is that if I let my right index finger get a little high it presses against the soft part on my left middle finger and under recoil I end up pushing that against the release. If I make sure my index finger goes more against the back of my middle finger instead I have no issues. Hopefully this makes sense. I have no doubt there are people where it is the gun not them, but maybe this will help some of you....or at least some of the lefties.
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Old 08-10-2012, 12:16 AM
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cstaalin, you gave me an idea...
In your images it appears the mag catch is actually plastic. Is it? I wanted to compare to my full size MP40 just for curiosity. The mag catch is clearly metal embedded in plastic. I know this because of the rust I saw when I zoomed in on the image (will be fixing that soon!). I took pics from top and bottom. Can you tell if the Shield's mag catch is plastic? If it is, perhaps that is a contributing factor. I'm not an armorer by any means, but I am wondering about it.





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Old 08-10-2012, 08:10 AM
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follow up, after several communications with S&W, I was told that they are fully aware of the condition, and that engineering has a solution for the problem. They did not specify what it was, but advised me to send my Shield in for "retro-fit". They sent me a shipping tag and I sent it back yesterday. I was also told due to their annual maintenance shut down, they are behind schedule and it could be 4-6 weeks. I will post further as I hear or when I get it back.
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I sent mine back two weeks ago. Haven't heard a thing yet. Still waiting.
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follow up, after several communications with S&W, I was told that they are fully aware of the condition, and that engineering has a solution for the problem. They did not specify what it was, but advised me to send my Shield in for "retro-fit". They sent me a shipping tag and I sent it back yesterday. I was also told due to their annual maintenance shut down, they are behind schedule and it could be 4-6 weeks. I will post further as I hear or when I get it back.
The wait sucks, but at least they have a solution... to be verified, right?
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cstaalin, you gave me an idea...
In your images it appears the mag catch is actually plastic. Is it? I wanted to compare to my full size MP40 just for curiosity. The mag catch is clearly metal embedded in plastic. I know this because of the rust I saw when I zoomed in on the image (will be fixing that soon!). I took pics from top and bottom. Can you tell if the Shield's mag catch is plastic? If it is, perhaps that is a contributing factor. I'm not an armorer by any means, but I am wondering about it.
As far as I can tell the mag catch is 100% plastic
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As far as I can tell the mag catch is 100% plastic
My Shield 40 has the steel insert in the mag catch.
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My Shield 40 has the steel insert in the mag catch.
Yes I stand corrected. I disassembled the mag release and there is a small steel insert at the top. My first inspection from the top looked liked it was plastic.
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Spinkick, yes, verification of the solution is pending, but I have many S&W products, and have used them for many, many years, I have confidence that they will correct the problem. Those that have sent theirs in , must be patient as they have been shut down for 2 weeks for maintenance. I have temporarily reverted back to my old ccw, and have many other guns for recreation, I can wait.
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good for you!

if you are not sure what to do, take the mag apart (remove baseplate, spring and followert) and slide the mag body into the pistol until it seats. now you can look down inside the mag with a torch and see exactly where the mag-catch contacts the mag.

just push the top edge of the slot in the mag (that contacts the mag catch) out a millimeter or so. a few good whacks with a punch and hammer from the opposite side should do it.

my pistol does not drop mags, i did this for piece of mind. now that it's done, the mag release button must be pushed in much farther to get the mag to release, and i know that the mag is being held in the pistol much more securely than before.

good luck and let us know if this helps
My week has been busier than I anticipated so was unable to make it to the range yet. I still will be reporting if this works as soon as i'm able to do so.
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follow up, after several communications with S&W, I was told that they are fully aware of the condition, and that engineering has a solution for the problem. They did not specify what it was, but advised me to send my Shield in for "retro-fit". They sent me a shipping tag and I sent it back yesterday. I was also told due to their annual maintenance shut down, they are behind schedule and it could be 4-6 weeks. I will post further as I hear or when I get it back.
I hope that this is correct. I sent mine in on July 23 and was just informed that it is in line to be repaired as soon as the factory maintenance turnaround is finished. They return to full staffing on Monday. I love the pistol and really want it to use it as my primary CCW.

For those who want to suggest that the mag drop problem is operator error, it isn't and if it were it would still be a design defect. I shoot the Shield with the same grip that I was trained to use and that I have used on numerous pistols of all makes and models. I have never had a properly seated mag drop from a pistol before I shot the Shield and in thousands of reloads have failed to properly seat a mag no more than once or twice.

If the shield is dropping mags because of inadvertent mag release engagement in recoil, then it is poorly designed and useless for self-defense. No one can be expected to reliably use a modified grip in a stressful self-defense situation. If the Shield requires a modified grip, then it is an expensive toy, but it is not a reliable weapon. I hope they fix the problem.
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Default Immediate Fix for 40 Shield design defect

After screwing with S&W's incompetent service personnel for 2 months and 2 "REPAIRS", I finally discovered the FIX. I traded the *** for a Springfield XDs and haven't looked back. The XD is twice the gun as the Shield and comes in a hard case with hi-viz sights and best of all gives me the confidence that I require for an off duty carry. You guys that have shot the Shield for three hundred rounds with no problems are giving yourself a false sense of security. Carry it all day concealed and then pull it on a purp that is drawing down on your wife and kids. Do you actually want to take the risk that this might be the round that drops your mag? This design is defective and the fact that S&W refuses to admit it has convinced me to never consider them for my future firearm purchases.
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Default 40 cal Shield drops mag with extended mag in gun

First trip to the range about a week ago and after 50 rounds or so the extended mag started dropping with at least the first 3 shots of a full mag. The 6 round mag never dropped. I'm calling S&W tomorrow to get it straightened out. I looked high and low and waited for this gun. Very disappointing!
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Old 08-12-2012, 06:35 PM
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Dang as a big Shield fan I must say that I would be pissed if I had this problem with my Shield (9mm). Luckily for me I dont but knowing that these guns are for carry purposes I think S&W has dropped the ball on this issue big time. They should issue a recall on their main web site and try to contact owners that have a Shield 40 via mail. They should also fix the guns with a one week turn around on their dime.

This is just wishfull thinking I know but just imagine the law suits that could come from this should the wrong person get killed because they were in a bad situation where they had to draw to protect themselves or family and their magazine falls out. Kudos for all you owners that have stuck around while this issue is getting resolved. I would have gone to the XDS a long time ago.
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I've been a Shield 40 owner for just over a month now and I have unfortunately experienced the mag drop issue with my extended magazine.

Been just over 300 rounds through the gun, but the drop issue started sometime shortly after 50 rounds.

So far, I have had no issues with the shorter 6 round magazine, but have only experienced drop with the extended magazine. It may also be worth noting that I seem to have the most issues with magazine drop during the first 3-4 rounds fired.

When gripping the Shield with the extended mag, my palm exerts a decent amount of force against the back of the extended mag (At least, with how my hands grip the gun) - I think that this may be providing the mag just enough leverage away from the magazine catch to drop it from the gun (In addition to the force provided from recoil and the slide racking).

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My week has been busier than I anticipated so was unable to make it to the range yet. I still will be reporting if this works as soon as i'm able to do so.
I took my wife and her 9mm shield to the range yesterday. I also brought my .40 shield. I put one extended mag of speer lawman through my .40. 3 drops in 7 rounds. Went back to my range bag, grabbed a small flathead screwdriver and bent the upper edge of the mag catch slot out a few mm. Put 43 more rounds through it without a mag drop. This seems to fix it for now but i still expect to get an official fix from s&w.
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Old 08-13-2012, 02:55 PM
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Angry Add mine to the list. VERY DISAPPOINTING !

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My serial number is also DXV6xxx hmmm same problem here.
My serial number is DXX12## and I just purchased it July 14, 2012, and after 100 rounds, the extended magazine is doing the exact same thing as everybody else's here.
Dropping out after the first round is fired.

I called S&W Customer Service, and after 20 minutes on hold, I spoke to a rep who acted like it was the very first time he had heard of this issue, offered absolutely no suggestions or ideas as to what the issue(s) is, and that I needed to send the weapon in to them for service. Period.
When I pressed a little bit, he did finally acknowledge that he had actually heard of the problem, but absolutely nothing else.

This is really disappointing, I was looking forward to getting this weapon, and now I have to send it back and be without it for at least 3 weeks (10 business days quoted for repair + shipping both ways).

When a company is manufacturing weapons designed for personal defense, a lot more quality control should be involved.

In my opinion, Smith & Wesson really dropped the ball on this one.
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Took the 40 Shield out and put another 100 rounds through it using both long and short mags and had no problems (200 total rounds to date). Put 50 through the 9 Shield and it also remains problem free.
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Old 08-13-2012, 03:29 PM
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My Shield 40 has the steel insert in the mag catch.
FWIW I have a shield 40 serial DXT18xx with zero mag drop problems after 300 rounds. Neither one of the mags are loose fitting and has a definite snap when fully seating them. After reading most of this thread I decided to examine the mag catch to see if there are any obvious places for concern. The mag catch in my shield does not have a steel insert embedded in plastic, instead it is one solid cast steel part. I have a 9mm FS and compared the two catches as you can see in the picture. The 9mm FS is the longer plastic one with steel insert embedded.


I love my shield 40 with zero issues and am confident it will stay that way, however I feel this issue, IMO most definitely should be a recall from S&W and I think they will get to the bottom of it.

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Old 08-13-2012, 03:59 PM
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have my .40 shield about 3 weeks . love the gun but having the same problem. mag drops out almost after every time shot with the 7 round mag .
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Does anybody else want to try modifying their magazine to see if it fixes the mag drop?
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FWIW I have a shield 40 serial DXT18xx with zero mag drop problems after 300 rounds. Neither one of the mags are loose fitting and has a definite snap when fully seating them. After reading most of this thread I decided to examine the mag catch to see if there are any obvious places for concern. The mag catch in my shield does not have a steel insert embedded in plastic, instead it is one solid cast steel part. I have a 9mm FS and compared the two catches as you can see in the picture. The 9mm FS is the longer plastic one with steel insert embedded.


I love my shield 40 with zero issues and am confident it will stay that way, however I feel this issue, IMO most definitely should be a recall from S&W and I think they will get to the bottom of it.
i just removed and looked at my mag catch and it is all metalic, one piece, either cast or MIM.......attracts a magnet.

zero mag drop probs for me, Serial# DXT 05xx

so, where in the serial number range did S&W go to the plastic/steel insert mag catch?
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Old 08-13-2012, 10:30 PM
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You can't accurately say 2/3 of the general public are having the issue based on this forum (I know you stated "in this forum"). Statistics show that people that are having a problem with a product are more likely to "review" or "rate" it... or in this case, come on a forum and complain. If you are not experiencing a problem, you are a less likey to come on here and post that everything is fine.

I am sure of lot of people having the issue come on these forums for the first time in search of a solution.

That being sad, there is clearly a problem, and it is not uncommon. S&W has really dropped the ball on this and needs to put forth a full on effort to resolve the issue as soon as possible. There are a lot of unhappy customers out there because of this...

The best way to get a more accurate count would be to poll Shield owners at the LSR.
Just to be clear, I referred to 2/3 of the people in this forum were having problems at that point in time. This is not a random poll, I agree, but I think this poll truly highlights the magnitude of the problem. If the actual defects were 50% or 25% or even 10%, this would be too many. The point is that this is large problem that must be properly addressed by S&W. I wonder if S&W will ever give us some data - I doubt it. If you can get a random poll this large at your local range, I would appreciate your data.
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Mine was sent in around mid July. Called today and Cust. Serv. said it was on it's way back with a new mag catch. I asked if it was new as in a completely different mag catch and he said yes. I will post how it worked in the next few days.
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Mine was sent in around mid July. Called today and Cust. Serv. said it was on it's way back with a new mag catch. I asked if it was new as in a completely different mag catch and he said yes. I will post how it worked in the next few days.
Finally, someone is getting one back.
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Well you have me excited as well.
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i just removed and looked at my mag catch and it is all metalic, one piece, either cast or MIM.......attracts a magnet.

zero mag drop probs for me, Serial# DXT 05xx

so, where in the serial number range did S&W go to the plastic/steel insert mag catch?
From participating and reading this thread, it seems that the DXV, DXW and DXX serial numbers are affected. Obviously not official, but that is what I've picked up on. The "earlier" serial numbers like DXT and DXP are operating fine. You bring up a great observation on the one-piece mag catch tho. I'll be looking when I get mine back.

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Mine was sent in around mid July. Called today and Cust. Serv. said it was on it's way back with a new mag catch. I asked if it was new as in a completely different mag catch and he said yes. I will post how it worked in the next few days.
Mine too! Called Monday and it was to ship then, get to me tomorrow. Said there was a fix, and it would be explained in a letter with the firearm. I won't be able to hit the range until the weekend, tho, and don't know how to show you the mag catch. If I did, I would. Certainly will post after I read the letter.
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Does anybody else want to try modifying their magazine to see if it fixes the mag drop?
I looked at how both mags are held in place in the Shield. My short mag has more engagement with the mag release than does the extended mag. I used the hammer and punch fix on the extended mag and, voila, no more mag drops. I think it is a mag problem, not the gun. S&W could probably cure the mag drop problem by simply(?) changing the extended mag specs.
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Mine was sent in around mid July. Called today and Cust. Serv. said it was on it's way back with a new mag catch. I asked if it was new as in a completely different mag catch and he said yes. I will post how it worked in the next few days.
Just got it back. Only the paperwork says I've got new magazines. Not a new mag catch. I called to specify and they said each one is looked at on a case by case basis. Some mag catches are being replaced and some are getting new magazines. I will try to shoot a box through it tonight and post the results.

By the way...the magazines definitely seat more securely and with a more pronounced 'click' than they did. So that is promising.
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Default Fix seems to work (whatever they did)

Got mine yesterday. No paperwork included. Long magazine fits much more securely. Short one a little more but still a gap. However, this one had not fallen out like the longer.

Fired the long magazine today, about 40 rounds, with and without an extra range in the chamber.

So far, so good. No magazine dropping.

I'm optimistic!
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Just got it back. Only the paperwork says I've got new magazines. Not a new mag catch. I called to specify and they said each one is looked at on a case by case basis. Some mag catches are being replaced and some are getting new magazines. I will try to shoot a box through it tonight and post the results.

By the way...the magazines definitely seat more securely and with a more pronounced 'click' than they did. So that is promising.
This may mean, as some have speculated, that this problem is a magazine problem more than a mag catch problem.
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Got mine back today with two new mags. The new mags have been modified by S&W with the "hammer and punch" method some on this forum are using. If you compare the new mags to the old ones, the mag catch groove in the magazine has been pushed out a couple of millimeters. Engagement when the mag is inserted into the gun is much more positive now.

I'm encouraged, because it is clear that they modified the mags to increase engagement with the mag catch. The mag release has to be depressed further to release the mag, but the mag still drops free.

It may be a week or more before I can test the gun. For others who have received their guns back with new mags, check to see if the mags have been modified.
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Just got it back. Only the paperwork says I've got new magazines. Not a new mag catch. I called to specify and they said each one is looked at on a case by case basis. Some mag catches are being replaced and some are getting new magazines. I will try to shoot a box through it tonight and post the results.

By the way...the magazines definitely seat more securely and with a more pronounced 'click' than they did. So that is promising.
Shot a box through...no problems. I'm happy as a clam so far. Not ready to carry it until it holds up for while longer, however.
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Great to hear these positive experiences! As you shoot more please continue to provide experiences!
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Mine too! Called Monday and it was to ship then, get to me tomorrow. Said there was a fix, and it would be explained in a letter with the firearm. I won't be able to hit the range until the weekend, tho, and don't know how to show you the mag catch. If I did, I would. Certainly will post after I read the letter.
Got mine back, and just like Fabius and doriandk the paperwork indicated new mags, not a new mag release. I also perceive much more definitive click and seating of the mag now, but obviously it is difficult to know for sure. Wish I knew what to look for with the one-piece mag release itself...

Will shoot this weekend and post results as well. At this point, the outlook is neutral for me until I get 100+ more rounds through the gun.
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I modified my mags and it seems to have cured my mag drop.

Are you guys being sent "new" mags with different specs or are they modifying yours by hand and sending them back to you?
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Wonder what this means for everyone that bought extra mags...
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