APEX DCAEK Question

[ponchsox]

I am getting an APEX DCAEK installed in my M&P9c. I'm not sure if I want to install the sear spring or leave it factory. This is not my EDC. I actually prefer a lighter trigger pull. How much is the difference in trigger pull between the stock sear spring and the Apex sear spring?

[southchatham]

I think you should change it because it will help with your reset. If you want a lighter trigger don't install the trigger return spring.

[M&P Freak]

Originally Posted by southchatham

I think you should change it because it will help with your reset. If you want a lighter trigger don't install the trigger return spring.

^ This

In my experience, the trigger return spring makes a very noticeable difference in pull weight.

[Mikey217]

Originally Posted by M&P Freak

^ This

In my experience, the trigger return spring makes a very noticeable difference in pull weight.

Agreed. I found that the Apex return spring seemed to add 1-3lbs to the trigger pull weight on my 40c.

[gamma72]

Originally Posted by Mikey217

Agreed. I found that the Apex return spring seemed to add 1-3lbs to the trigger pull weight on my 40c.

Yup! Stock trigger spring is the way to go

[M&P Freak]

My carry guns have the Apex spring installed. My range guns keep the factory spring. Both ways, the triggers are fantastic. No thumb safeties BTW.

[saw577]

So Im curious... I put the DCAEK in my wife's 9, before I put in the RAM. I noticed the trigger pull went up a bit, and the roughness when pulling the trigger went away. However, the reset seemed to have gone away too. When I put the RAM in, it was like night and day. Did I miss something? I thought the DCAEK was supposed to help with reset too. I want to put it in my 40c, but it has a thumb safe, so I cant put the RAM in. I like the reset I have now, gritty trigger and all, more than what I got with the DCAEK alone.

[robkarrob]

Why get the carry kit, if your not using it for carry? The two springs that come with the carry kit increase the pull weight. Why not buy the competition kit? Then you can swap springs between the competition kit and the stock springs and get between 3 to 5 pounds trigger pull. Cost is just slightly more for the competition kit.

Prior to my buying the Apex sear and blocker, I asked what was the difference between the kits. Jon Shadwick, from Apex Tactical, sent me an email which said:

The competition kit should yeild a trigger pull around 3.0 pounds
The duty/carry kit should yield a trigger pull around 5 to 5.5 pounds
Using the stock springs should yeild a trigger pull of 4 to 4.5 pounds.
The stock Shield trigger pull was 6.5 pounds.

I used the stock springs in my Shield and got a measured pull of 4.25 pounds, using my Lyman digital trigger pull gauge. I replaced the stock Shield trigger spring with a stock Glock trigger spring and my pull is now 3.7 pounds.

I hear this all the time, a carry gun should have a long /heavy trigger pull. My Shield has a short/light trigger pull. I practice often with my Shield. I always use the manual safety and practice flicking off the safety, as I draw the gun. I am used to the trigger pull, which allows me to shoot better. It is not a range gun, but the modified trigger allows for closer groups. If I can shoot better with it, it makes it a better carry gun. The object is to hit what your aiming at.

What makes a safe carry gun is not the gun, but the proper training of the gun owner. Knowledge and use of proper and safe gun handling. Practice with the gun so that trigger control, accuracy, and recoil control are automatic. That is what makes a safe gun. Now for those that want to take shortcuts and not take the time to know and practice with their gun, then a gun with a long/heavy trigger pull would be better for them.


Bob

[danysw]

The OP was asking about the difference of the Apex sear spring vs stock sear spring not the Apex trigger spring.
The stock sear spring is softer than the Apex, it will increase some trigger weight but just a little bit (I would say just a couple of ounces), not as much as the Apex trigger spring which increase at least 1 lb.