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Old 09-05-2012, 01:31 PM
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I want to remove the safety from my shield. I see no point In a safety on a self defense pistol. Keep your finger off the trigger is as safe as it needs to be IMO. So does anyone make a drop in type pice that makes it were the gun can never be placed on safe?


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Old 09-05-2012, 01:38 PM
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With mine, it's harder to engage the safety than to disengage it.
I simply leave mine in the off position.

I don't recall anyone commercially making a device, but someone a couple months back made a shim that was thin enough to ride inside the slide, but kept the safety from being pushed upward.
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Old 09-05-2012, 01:40 PM
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I need to find that thread. I am left handed so if it were to be bumped on by accident it could be a serious issue if I needed it. I would rather have it disabled / removed than operational.


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Old 09-05-2012, 01:49 PM
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I really don't see the issue with the safety. Mine is so tight that it isn't going to engage with a bump...if it did, the force it would take for that "bump" would have me flying sideways like I was shot in a bad movie.

Why don't you just ignore it? Or better yet, buy a different pistol that doesn't have a safety. There could be issues if you remove the safety: functional, warranty, and possibly liability issues in court (if you ever use your gun and the opposing attorney portrays you as so reckless that you disabled a safety device on your gun.)
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Old 09-05-2012, 01:59 PM
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I was told by a certified SW armorer that the safety can be removed and the sear block changed. It may run you about $60 to do depending on what someone charges you for labor. A friend that teaches CCHG classes and shoots competitively also mentioned to me about the liability/legality issue and that you might have an issue with the prosecutor if you did in fact remove it (the safety). I might also recommend looking for a different carry pistol as this is what I am in the process of doing. I put money down on an M&P compact and have the same issue. I shouldn't have put the money down if I wasn't sure, but I did so now I am paying the price.
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Old 09-05-2012, 02:15 PM
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...I put money down on an M&P compact and have the same issue. I shouldn't have put the money down if I wasn't sure, but I did so now I am paying the price.
Why the issue with the compact? A safety is optional on the M&P compact models.
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Old 09-05-2012, 04:25 PM
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Due to me carrying it on my left side it is more subject to being bumped/ knocked one way or the other. I don't see it having a strong chance of happening but I choose not to chance my life on it.

As for the legality, I don't see that holding any water at all. They could attempt to fight it but there are too many guns without safety's for that to be a valid case.

I have a PF-9 but choose the shield over it because it's a better gun.

I don't want to rig it, I am looking for a professional type removal and replacement as stated above about a different sear.

I do appreciate the concerns on the legality but have no issue removing the safety and being judged by 12.


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Old 09-05-2012, 04:44 PM
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The safety holds the sear pin in place, so you don't want to remove it. It is easily disabled however. Here is a utube video. M&P Shield Manual Safety Removal - YouTube
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Old 09-05-2012, 07:10 PM
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The safety holds the sear pin in place, so you don't want to remove it. It is easily disabled however.
Thanks bro! I can do that easily!!!




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This is what I did. It is a foam rubber foot for the bottom of furniture. It is adhesive on one side so I stuck it to the safety lever after cutting it to size. I put a few hundred rounds through with it on there had no issues with it on.

I took it out though because I sent my Shield back to S&W because the white dot came off the front sight. Sure, I could have painted a dot on myself, but this an ongoing issue they need to resolve. The more complaints they receive, the sooner they will fix the problem.



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I put money down on an M&P compact and have the same issue. I shouldn't have put the money down if I wasn't sure, but I did so now I am paying the price.
Ask your gun shop if you switch your down payment to a different M&P 9c...one without a safety. (They do make one.) If you put money down on a used one, then ask them if you can either switch to a different used pistol, or have them order a new M&P 9c, without the safety.

I would try that before I would buy a pistol I didn't want. Worst case, if they won't, then buy it and put it up for sale here. It should sell pretty quickly.
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I had ordered a 40c from a shop and it had a safety, they were more than happy to sell it to someone else and order me one without a safety!


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Deactivating the safety and leaving the lever in place looks like a recipe for an accident to me when the pistol is handled by someone not familiar with the modification. I'd prefer a solution that simply locks the lever in the "fire" position. (similar to what SoleShtr did above)

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The safety holds the sear pin in place, so you don't want to remove it. It is easily disabled however. Here is a utube video. M&P Shield Manual Safety Removal - YouTube
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I disagree. If you are left handed and are concerned about the safety I would fix it the way that satisfied your needs or better yet, you may look at a different model firearm. There are lot's of great options out there. I love my Shield but my Kahr PM9 gets carried far more often.
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I am S&W through and through. I carry a sig 229 at work, but that's cus that's what they give me. I would cary a full size M&P if I could.

I feel that with the tab removed like in the first video there will be no issue with it in the up or down position. But as I originally stated, I was really looking for a mass produced safety removal that is company backed. But after the video I feel the removal of the tab will be just fine.


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