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Old 11-02-2012, 11:46 PM
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I got tired of waiting for the Shield & decided to go with the M&P40C &
I've got to say I love it. It will be my CCW in a Bladetech holster. I still
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Old 11-03-2012, 02:31 AM
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After carrying the Shield 40cal for 5 months, I love it, After reading so much about the M&P compact, I thought that maybe I would want one of them also. I went to my LGS yesterday and handled an M&P compact. I was surprised because it felt huge to me by comparison. If I get another M&P it will be a full size. That would be better for a house gun.
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I really canít be considered a real vote as Iíve never even picked up a shield. I have done a lot of online research though. I picked the 40c as itís my ONLY pistol and itís what I feel comfortable with for carry, and home defense.
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The Shield is NOT a pocket pistol.

IMHO, if you have a decent holster, like a Crossbreed, Theis, or similar, the difference between carrying the two won't matter a whole lot, but the Shield will hide a little better.
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I feel like a broken record. I don't mean to disrespect you but If I had a shell for every time I got on this forum to explain that my Shield is a POCKET gun I would own a case of shells.

I will say it for the one-millionth time.

The stock rear Shield sight catches on most average size pockets (34 x 32 pleated slacks in my case) when you do a quick draw.

If you stick with the flush magazine and change out the stock sights for XS Big Dot the rear XS sight which is a lower profile sight with rounded edges and beveled forward design will not catch even with quick pocket draws.

I wear 34 x 32 pleated slacks from Sam's Club and the front pocket is very average in size and for 10 hours per day I POCKET conceal my Shield 9mm and no one in my office has a clue. (I am very mobile at work and the Shield in my pocket is just fine)

I practice drawing my Shield from my Desanti model E1 and in 1 1/2 seconds I can pocket draw, sweep safety, acquire target, and dry fire.

The Shield trumps the compact for concealment because thinness is critical for pocket concealment and the M&PC9 is 1/4 inch thicker which will stand out in average pant pockets and scream gun. I know I have tried pocket concealing the Glock 26 which is just as thick as the M&PC9 and it screams gun from my pocket.

If a person plans to IWB you can get away with a double stack like the M&P compact, however, I am not interested in wearing a second layer of clothing to cover the holster especially in 100 degree weather.

The Shield provides more concealment options over the compact, has a better trigger and is 100% reliable and that is why I own the Shield.

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With all the trouble with the Shield....go with the compact.
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I've had a M&P9c since they were first introduced. I managed to buy a 9mm Shield a week after they were announced.

My Compact is my daily off-duty gun. My Shield is my BUG while at work. The Compact is just too thick for vest carry. But the Shield is a dream for this type of carry.

I have RCS Phantom holsters for both guns. I carry OWB over my kidney at about 4 o'clock or so. In this type of carry, they are about equally concealable, so I carry the compact. (A good belt does make all the difference!)

I shoot the compact slightly better than the Shield. But don't take this as a slam on the Shield. With the Shield, I can clean the 6" pie plate rack at 25 yds, using mandated frangible ammunition, at my agencies facility.

Shooting the 9mm Shield, I quickly forget it's a compact gun designed for a specific task. One quickly starts to compare the Shield to full size platforms. It shoots that well.

OP, we all have different size and shaped bodies. The best thing you could do is to shoot both. Carry both and see which works best for YOU. You already own a Compact. Buy a Shield if you can get one without paying scalper's prices for it. If the Shield doesn't work out for your needs, you would have no problem selling off a Shield right now.
I agree with Beat Trash completely. Different pistols are for different uses, as he illustrates so well in his writing. My Shield is for summer carry (often in the pocket) when lighter clothes are the norm. I also use it as a back-up to my department-issued G17. In cooler weather, I carry the largest pistol I can comfortably conceal off-duty. It my be an M&P45c, M&P45 midsize, M&P40FS, M&P40c, G19 or one of my 1911's or 4566. However, there is nothing I have had in the same class as the Shield that I like as much, or have the same level of confidence.
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The Shield is NOT a pocket pistol.

IMHO, if you have a decent holster, like a Crossbreed, Theis, or similar, the difference between carrying the two won't matter a whole lot, but the Shield will hide a little better.
The Shield may not qualify as a pocket pistol for you, but it seems to fill that role for a number of people. I like my M&P40c also, but it has different carry characteristics than the Shield.
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I love my 9c. Got it before the shield came out. I have no problems concealing it and shoots easily with the flat bottom mag. A coworker just got the Shield and he loves it. For me the ability to use the full size mags from my full size M&P outweighs the thinness of the Shield since I dont have a concealment problem. To each their own.
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It's all in what works for you, of course, but given the very minor difference in size, I'd think the compact might be a better choice. As one of the previous posts pointed out, there's a trade-off for everything. You want lighter, you get more recoil and less controlability. You want less recoil and quicker follow-on shots, you're going to have to go to a little heavier/bigger pistol. Your call.
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Old 11-03-2012, 02:09 PM
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baccusboy:

I feel like a broken record. I don't mean to disrespect you but If I had a shell for every time I got on this forum to explain that my Shield is a POCKET gun I would own a case of shells.

I will say it for the one-millionth time.

The stock rear Shield sight catches on most average size pockets (34 x 32 pleated slacks in my case) when you do a quick draw.

If you stick with the flush magazine and change out the stock sights for XS Big Dot the rear XS sight which is a lower profile sight with rounded edges and beveled forward design will not catch even with quick pocket draws.

I wear 34 x 32 pleated slacks from Sam's Club and the front pocket is very average in size and for 10 hours per day I POCKET conceal my Shield 9mm and no one in my office has a clue. (I am very mobile at work and the Shield in my pocket is just fine)

I practice drawing my Shield from my Desanti model E1 and in 1 1/2 seconds I can pocket draw, sweep safety, acquire target, and dry fire.

The Shield trumps the compact for concealment because thinness is critical for pocket concealment and the M&PC9 is 1/4 inch thicker which will stand out in average pant pockets and scream gun. I know I have tried pocket concealing the Glock 26 which is just as thick as the M&PC9 and it screams gun from my pocket.

If a person plans to IWB you can get away with a double stack like the M&P compact, however, I am not interested in wearing a second layer of clothing to cover the holster especially in 100 degree weather.

The Shield provides more concealment options over the compact, has a better trigger and is 100% reliable and that is why I own the Shield.

Russ
Amen Russ, pocket carry all the way. After owning a Kahr PM40, CM9, K9 and a Diamondback 9(junk by the way), I definitely lean towards all guns pocketable. The Shield works for me. IWB I would still favor the Shield. Night stand or house gun, the Compact or full size would be preferable.
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I'm going back on my word. I found a Shield 9 today and I bought it. After holding an XDs, I knew I needed a slimline pistol.
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I they still have the Shield in the morning, I think I'm going to buy it regardless. If I don't like it, I'm sure ill be able to sell it.
Exactly what I did. It's a nice gun, just not as nice as my 9c :-)
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Compact and Shield all tied up in the vote.

I sure hope this isn't a precursor for next Tuesday.

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I don't see myself ever pocket carrying. I have my phone in one and keys in the other. Don't want my gun sharing pockets with either. Lol

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There isn't anything wrong with having several pistols, is there? I haven't found one yet that fills all the roles I want/need...so, I have several, and that is an excellent excuse to find more roles and buy more guns to fill them.
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A bit off the main subject, but where are the Shields available?
I live in Arkansas, and have been on several waiting lists, and the story I keep getting is; " none are coming in". Is this true throughout the USA??
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A bit off the main subject, but where are the Shields available?
I live in Arkansas, and have been on several waiting lists, and the story I keep getting is; " none are coming in". Is this true throughout the USA??
The only one I found in the whole state was at Wilkins Brothers in Russellville. I drove 2 hours to get it.
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I'm going back on my word. I found a Shield 9 today and I bought it. After holding an XDs, I knew I needed a slimline pistol.
I think you made a smart choice...

I will be picking up mine next week, it finely came in...

Unfortunately I will have to work on it right away as MASS makes us buy it with a 10 lb trigger, so I will be ordering a APEX kit, a Crimson Trace lazer and a set of XS Big Dot Sights 1st thing...

I'll load up some photo's to show you the size difference...

I daily carry a M&P 40c right now, I just bought a S&W Pro Series 1911 to replace the M&P because it is much lighter and with a bad back it will make a difference...

I am buying the Shield to replace a Ruger LC9 that I bought, the LC9 is to small for my bear paws and I can't shoot it well with it's trigger and small size, the Shield fits my hand better...

As others have said, keep the compact and make sure you like the Shield 1st... Than keep the compact for home or for carrying when the Shield maybe down for some reason...

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I totally agree, you can never have enough guns...

I also like different guns for different things...
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Never place anything including your hand in the gun pocket.
My keys, chapstick etc goes into my left pocket, cell phone on my belt.

My Shield 9mm is in a Desanti holster which covers the entire trigger and the safety is on in my front right pocket and nothing else shares the pocket.

If you are right handed it does take getting use to pulling keys and chapstick from the left pocket but for safety sake get use to it even when you are not packing train yourself to use the left pocket if right handed for your keys.

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I feel like a broken record. I don't mean to disrespect you but If I had a shell for every time I got on this forum to explain that my Shield is a POCKET gun I would own a case of shells.

I will say it for the one-millionth time.

The stock rear Shield sight catches on most average size pockets (34 x 32 pleated slacks in my case) when you do a quick draw.

If you stick with the flush magazine and change out the stock sights for XS Big Dot the rear XS sight which is a lower profile sight with rounded edges and beveled forward design will not catch even with quick pocket draws.

I wear 34 x 32 pleated slacks from Sam's Club and the front pocket is very average in size and for 10 hours per day I POCKET conceal my Shield 9mm and no one in my office has a clue. (I am very mobile at work and the Shield in my pocket is just fine)

I practice drawing my Shield from my Desanti model E1 and in 1 1/2 seconds I can pocket draw, sweep safety, acquire target, and dry fire.

The Shield trumps the compact for concealment because thinness is critical for pocket concealment and the M&PC9 is 1/4 inch thicker which will stand out in average pant pockets and scream gun. I know I have tried pocket concealing the Glock 26 which is just as thick as the M&PC9 and it screams gun from my pocket.

If a person plans to IWB you can get away with a double stack like the M&P compact, however, I am not interested in wearing a second layer of clothing to cover the holster especially in 100 degree weather.

The Shield provides more concealment options over the compact, has a better trigger and is 100% reliable and that is why I own the Shield.

Russ

Is that a Shield in your pocket, or are you just glad to see me?

Glad it works for you. I am also a fan of the XS sights... will get some some day.
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Glad it works for you. I am also a fan of the XS sights... will get some some day.
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"There are reasons the FBI, 'most' police departments, etc., issue the GLOCK pistol - simplicity and RELIABILITY!"

Don't forget that Glock will almost give their guns to LEA's in order to have the bragging rights. Glocks are good guns but a lot of them are in LE due to financial considerations.
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I just bought the Compact today, so that's the route I'm voting!
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I just ordered a crimson trace laser and a set of XS Big Dot sights for my new Shield...

I just ordered the APEX trigger kit also as I have the MA gun with the 10.5 lb trigger...

I just put 3 to 4 hundred rounds through it Saturday without one hick-up, it shot great, the MA trigger isn't that bad, but it's nowhere near what my other gunsmith tuned M&P's are...

I ordered a APEX kit for the Shield and for my new M&P 45 because I want to install them myself and try them out to see how the APEX trigger feels.

I'll load up some photo's soon to show you the size difference... The Shield is very close to the same size except for the width and weight...


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I have a 40 Shield, a 45c, and a G23. Guess which one I carry most?

Shield. I have a ton of holsters but I prefer concealment over the "what if" factor from having more ammo without reloading. If I can't hit my target in 7-8 shots, I shouldn't be carrying. Plus I CC the other mag for a worst case scenario (multiple threats). If I wanted to give up the concealment factor, I'd open carry my 45c (w/ 10rd x-grip mag and reload).
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