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Old 12-03-2012, 05:17 PM
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Ok so although I have both the Shield 9mm and the .40. I decided to give a company the benefit of the doubt on ordering me another 9mm barrel and an extended 9mm mag. Well today they came in, after about 3 days shipping. These are a few pics from the small un-packing. I am very impressed with this product, as I have already put 150rds through it with my .40.

This is the way to go guys. I'd suggest getting your hands on the conversion ASAP. It wouldnt surprise me if these things dont go on back order just like the Shield.






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So you didnt like the Shield in the .40? And you are saying your ordered a Shield factory 9mm barrel? I thought it wasnt possible yet to get Shield barrels? Sorry if I am wrong, i could be thinking of something else.
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I believe I got the same barrel as you from the same dealer. I fired 100 rds of 9mm and 100 of .40 through my .40 shield the other day all went flawlessly. Pretty good price too!

I inspected and dry fired a million times to make sure everything functioned properly after firing a couple rounds I knew it was fine and went on my way. I did not and do not foresee any problems with this 9mm barrel in my .40 Shield.

Also from the looks of it these are S&W factory barrel's. I can not see anything different between the one I purchased after and the one that came with my gun.
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Okay... I haven't been paying real close attention to the various Conversion threads, so I apologize if this has been covered a bunch already.

I understand that we can convert the Shield down, from .40 to 9mm, with only the Barrel & Mags... No Slide required, like with some models... But...

Can we also convert the Shield UP, from 9mm to .40 by buying just a barrel and mags as well? Will the 9mm extractor successfully grab the .40 case?
If so, this is something I might like to try. It would be my 1st .40.
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Old 12-03-2012, 08:32 PM
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Sorry, the conversion can only be done from .40 or 357 sig to 9mm. If you buy the .40 you can shoot the 9mm or 357 sig for another $100 each. I dont know why anybody would buy a 9mm if they had this knowledge.

S&W makes this conversion so easy and cheap although they dont advertise it. I call them and they said it could not be done. After reading up here and watching youtube clips on it i ordered the 9mm barrel and could not be happier with it.
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Old 12-03-2012, 09:39 PM
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Okay... I haven't been paying real close attention to the various Conversion threads, so I apologize if this has been covered a bunch already.

I understand that we can convert the Shield down, from .40 to 9mm, with only the Barrel & Mags... No Slide required, like with some models... But...

Can we also convert the Shield UP, from 9mm to .40 by buying just a barrel and mags as well? Will the 9mm extractor successfully grab the .40 case?
If so, this is something I might like to try. It would be my 1st .40.
Folks, the cartridge head dimensions on 9mm and .40 S&W are DIFFERENT. Thus, conversion from .40 S&W to 9mm MAY work sometimes, but that is more luck than anything.

.40 S&W to .357 SIG and back works with a barrel and magazine change ONLY because those two rounds have the same head dimensions.

What you are doing may or may not work, and I certainly would not bet my life on it in a self-defense scenario.

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Old 12-03-2012, 09:55 PM
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You have posted and made videos of the conversion. Thanks for that. You have shown the only conversion is 40 to 9mm. The opposite will not work, 9mm to 40. Now can you point us to the place you ordered the 9mm barrel and mag. What did they charge for each? Thanks again.

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You have posted and made videos of the conversion. Thanks for that. You have shown the only conversion is 40 to 9mm. The opposite will not work, 9mm to 40. Now can you point us to the place you ordered the 9mm barrel and mag. What did they charge for each? Thanks again.

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Sure we ordered from the same place. Guns and Gear (https://www.gunsandgearoutlet.com/) in Agawam Mass. Ph#(413) 786-0100. I paid $75 for 9mm barrel and 3=$32 or so for 9mm extended magazine
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Old 12-03-2012, 10:19 PM
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I believe I got the same barrel as you from the same dealer. I fired 100 rds of 9mm and 100 of .40 through my .40 shield the other day all went flawlessly. Pretty good price too!

I inspected and dry fired a million times to make sure everything functioned properly after firing a couple rounds I knew it was fine and went on my way. I did not and do not foresee any problems with this 9mm barrel in my .40 Shield.

Also from the looks of it these are S&W factory barrel's. I can not see anything different between the one I purchased after and the one that came with my gun.
I believe you are correct on that one. After having shot my original .40 with my original 9mm barrel and mag, I dont see anyone ever having any problems with the conversion. I've been shooting mine without problems.

Now i plan on putting this one through its paces and see if it holds up, as has my factory stuff. These appear to be factory barrels, IMO and definitely these are factory extended mags.

I wouldnt have wasted my time nor money if i didnt already know for sure all of this will work. You guys have seen my videos, u know i've been shooting my original 9mm through my .40 for awhile now. So i'm sure the weapons will function perfectly.........The question is will THIS barrel hold up and continue to perform as has my factory 9mm barrel. That is what i intend to find out and will find out over the next few weeks.

Yes ^^^^^ Thats the place we ordered from.
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Old 12-03-2012, 10:32 PM
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Smitty as I plan to do the same (testing the 9mm bbl in .40 frame) keep us posted if you find any "defects" or potential issues.
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Old 12-09-2012, 04:30 PM
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I am having difficulty confirming that this replacement 9mm barrel is S&W OEM or is an aftermarket product. Does anyone know for sure?
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Old 12-09-2012, 05:14 PM
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I am having difficulty confirming that this replacement 9mm barrel is S&W OEM or is an aftermarket product. Does anyone know for sure?
one could call and ask. I see absolutely zero difference's between this bbl and the OEM one. but cannot be 100% sure it's OEM.
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Old 12-09-2012, 06:29 PM
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I've ordered the 9mm barrel and a 9mm mag. They said they had both in stock, so I am just waiting on delivery. Will update when it arrives.

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Sorry, the conversion can only be done from .40 or 357 sig to 9mm. If you buy the .40 you can shoot the 9mm or 357 sig for another $100 each. I dont know why anybody would buy a 9mm if they had this knowledge.

S&W makes this conversion so easy and cheap although they dont advertise it. I call them and they said it could not be done. After reading up here and watching youtube clips on it i ordered the 9mm barrel and could not be happier with it.
I would have started with the 40 so as to be able to convert but the mag drop problem stopped me.
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Folks, the cartridge head dimensions on 9mm and .40 S&W are DIFFERENT. Thus, conversion from 9mm to .40 S&W MAY work sometimes, but that is more luck than anything.

.40 S&W to .357 SIG and back works with a barrel and magazine change ONLY because those two rounds have the same head dimensions.

What you are doing may or may not work, and I certainly would not bet my life on it in a self-defense scenario.

Bad idea.
This is 100% accurate, The headcase (where the primer is) is larger in a 40 than that of a 9mm. So the breech face of the slide (where the extractor is) is larger on a 40 and is designed to accept a 40 case NOT a 9mm. Like the gentleman said it "might work" most of the time but i would not trust my life on it. 357 sig to 40 cal and vise versa all day long because the case head on the 40 and 357 sig is the SAME.
it's actually pretty simple.
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Old 12-09-2012, 10:17 PM
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I've been putting the new barrel and mag through the paces. After over 2K rounds through the old 9mm barrel in the .40 frame, I figured I would have come upon any issues that may introduce themselves. So far I have around 500ish through the new 9mm barrel and mag with zero problems. Maybe one day I'll find a problem, but so far I've found nothing.

Only issue i've ever seen was trying to run 9mm through the .40 mag. Yes it will fit (in a sense), but often u get a FTF issue. So IMO, I surely wouldnt trust the 9mm round in the .40 mag.
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This is 100% accurate, The headcase (where the primer is) is larger in a 40 than that of a 9mm. So the breech face of the slide (where the extractor is) is larger on a 40 and is designed to accept a 40 case NOT a 9mm. Like the gentleman said it "might work" most of the time but i would not trust my life on it. 357 sig to 40 cal and vise versa all day long because the case head on the 40 and 357 sig is the SAME.
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Read your own quote. It says you cannot go from 9mm to .40! Nothing about going .40 down to 9mm.
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Read your own quote. It says you cannot go from 9mm to .40! Nothing about going .40 down to 9mm.
I did read my own quote. I DID not mention going from a 9 to a 40 (I think that's pretty much common knowledge in the shooting world, Unless your new to this) BUT if you wanna put 40 cal rounds in a 9mm magazine Have at it Son
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I did read my own quote. I DID not mention going from a 9 to a 40 (I think that's pretty much common knowledge in the shooting world, Unless your new to this) BUT if you wanna put 40 cal rounds in a 9mm magazine Have at it Son
Ok, then read the thread...you did not mention it but your quote did.
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Ok, then read the thread...you did not mention it but your quote did.
OK the original quote was by Shawn McCarver NOT I, I admit I should have NOT quoted his quote. The fact remains that you should NOT go down from a 40 to a 9 Just buy buying a barrel and a magazine. Shield 40 is designed to be a Shield 40. The Shield 9 is designed to be a shield 9, Buy both weapons if you must. But to swap out barrels and mags to get a different caliber is a BIG mistake, espically if you make that weapon your EDC
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Old 12-10-2012, 06:38 PM
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I have at least 2k rnds through my coverted 40 to 9 and it has been flawless and i am shooting wolf ammo , have 1000s of rnds of it i want to use it up
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Gentlemen, I don't think anyone is buying the 9mm barrels specifically for SD. I purchased my Shield 40, as I wanted that caliber for my SD round. The reason for the 9mm barrel is to lower the cost of shooting target rounds. Smitty357, TheBigC1234, and wingnuut have confirmed the barrel conversion has performed flawlessly for them.

shwan mccarver and MP1SG (who pointed it out several times) posted that "the cartridge head dimensions on 9mm and .40 S&W are DIFFERENT". I measured the heads and found the 9mm is .388 diameter and the 40 is .420 diameter. This amounts to .032 difference in diameter and only .016 (1/64 inch) difference in radius. So is 1/64 inch enough to create a problem. Apparently not from what the three that have tried the conversion have said. For them neither the extractor or the ejector has had a problem handling the .016 smaller radius of the 9mm cartridge head. I will soon be testing the conversion myself and I believe my outcome will be the same, no problems. If there are no problems, then I can't see why someone wanting to convert down from 40 to 9mm should have a problem for SD carry. You test with the ammo you are going to use for SD, and if you have no issues then they should feel confident of the safe conversion.

We thank those that have made us aware of a possible conversion problem. If testing proves the possible problem to not exist, then we can move on to finding a good supply of barrels, for those that want to make this conversion.

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Old 12-10-2012, 08:04 PM
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Hey guess what.......Mine works!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Sorry, the conversion can only be done from .40 or 357 sig to 9mm. If you buy the .40 you can shoot the 9mm or 357 sig for another $100 each. I dont know why anybody would buy a 9mm if they had this knowledge.

S&W makes this conversion so easy and cheap although they dont advertise it. I call them and they said it could not be done. After reading up here and watching youtube clips on it i ordered the 9mm barrel and could not be happier with it.
If S&W states it can not be done, then one can only assume that it would also void their Warranty. Not trying to rain on anyone's parade, just saying that performing this conversion may be cause for concern should any future warranty work be needed on your weapon. Then again, I guess smith would also have to be aware of the conversion for that to be the case.

Personally, I don't think I would do it though. JMHO. YMMV.

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So, There is a difference in the size of the cartridge head? And still people feel comfortable doing this. I am almost sure someone on this forum who is converting the shield 40 to a shield 9 is at some point going to carry this conversion for a SD weapon.
Ok, I bet my car can run on diesel for a little while before it breaks down and becomes useless.
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Since it can be done, some of us are going to do it. You have warned us, what more is going to be gained by continuing these warnings. If you test and it works with no issues, what else can we do? Are you aware how little 1/64 inch is? These guns were not designed with that small of variation to have much of an effect on ejection, which should be the only issue with this conversion. We each have our opinion on mods to a gun. Yours is against this particular mod, and mine is for. We have expressed our opinions so let's move on.

Warranty should be a non-issue. Put the stock 40 barrel back in and you have a stock Shield.

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Since it can be done, some of us are going to do it. You have warned us, what more is going to be gained by continuing these warnings. If you test and it works with no issues, what else can we do? Are you aware how little 1/64 inch is? These guns were not designed with that small of variation to have much of an effect on ejection, which should be the only issue with this conversion. We each have our opinion on mods to a gun. Yours is against this particular mod, and mine is for. We have expressed our opinions so let's move on.

Warranty should be a non-issue. Put the stock 40 barrel back in and you have a stock Shield.

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Ok, Moving on
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Ok so the guys with the 40c have been converting to .357 and 9mm for quite some time now. And im not talking about the StormLake conversion either. Plenty of those guys are swapping factory barrels and mags, and they are yet to have problems either. Since they have had longer to test this vs the Shield guys. I'd have to say that they should have come up on problems (if there were any) by now.

Since they havent had any problems and those of us who have converted our Shields also havent had problems. I think we can say that the conversion works without issue.
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I posted charts with part number for the 9,9c,40,&40c in the thread 40c or 9c or something like that and it shows that both 40c & 9c have many parts that are the same and same with both full sizes. Now I don't know technically what the difference between extractor and ejector, but the ejector is the same on the 40 & 9. Probably rings true with the shields as well.
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Just got my Shield 9mm barrel from Guns and Gear. Made a video showing comparison between the two barrels, similar to Smitty357 made, only with a few measurements and observations. Follow this link to the new thread:


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I was unaware it was this simple to swap calibers in the Shield, and am happy to know that the .40 slide will work with 9mm. I will be buying a .40 Shield and barrel/mag for 9mm. I see little point in getting a .357 barrel, as I don't particularly like that caliber.

I have a Colt M1911 (yes a real WWI M1911) in .45 ACP, and for over 10 years used the same frame for .45, 9mm, and .38 Super. However, it is necessary to have a slide for 9mm and .38 Super (.38 Super and 9mm use the same slide), plus a .38 Super magazine (which also works fine with 9mm), a 9mm barrel, a .38 Super barrel, and an ejector for 9mm/.38 (same for both). A heavier strength recoil spring is also needed for the .38 Super.
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Video is up showing my trip to the range with my Shield 40 and the 9mm barrel.

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Sure we ordered from the same place. Guns and Gear (https://www.gunsandgearoutlet.com/) in Agawam Mass. Ph#(413) 786-0100. I paid $75 for 9mm barrel and 3=$32 or so for 9mm extended magazine
I followed the link and found the mags no problem. Barrels, not so much. Only thing I saw was a 9-40 conversion barrel for a compact. Made by Storm Lake, BTW.
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I followed the link and found the mags no problem. Barrels, not so much. Only thing I saw was a 9-40 conversion barrel for a compact. Made by Storm Lake, BTW.
There website doesn't have them listed. Give them a call. Seems like everyone who got a barrel got it from them.
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OK the original quote was by Shawn McCarver NOT I, I admit I should have NOT quoted his quote. The fact remains that you should NOT go down from a 40 to a 9 Just buy buying a barrel and a magazine. Shield 40 is designed to be a Shield 40. The Shield 9 is designed to be a shield 9, Buy both weapons if you must. But to swap out barrels and mags to get a different caliber is a BIG mistake, espically if you make that weapon your EDC
The intent of my statement was, I thought clear. I did reverse the caliber swap in my original post, but that was not intentional. I have corrected my original post.

What is amazing to me is that the reader who wanted to criticize MP1SG could not discern (1) that it was my quote and not that of MP1SG and (2) that I meant to say .40 to 9mm, since going from 9mm to .40 is clearly not an option as the breech face is too small

It should be OBVIOUS to all concerned that you CANNOT go from 9mm to .40 by changing the barrel and magazine as the larger case head of the .40 will not work in the 9mm breech face.

As I said in my original post, going from .40 to 9mm MAY work, but it is a bad idea as the larger dimensions of the breech face of the .40 do not properly hold the 9mm, and the extractor will not grip the 9mm case head properly. While this may work some of the time, or even most of the time, it is ABSOLUTELY not to be trusted for carry or self-defense. In addition, inevitable malfunctions will reduce confidence in the weapon as you will never quite be sure if it is JUST the wrong size ammo or if the extractor has been truly damaged by this practice, which will undoubtedly put stress on the extractor that was not intended by the designers.

I stand by what MP1SG says and by my original post (except for the mistaken 9mm to .40, which has now been corrected to .40 to 9mm.

These amateurish caliber conversions in pistols not intended for it are a BAD idea at best and perhaps dangerous at worst.

Since it is apparent by the number of questions and discussions that seem to repeatedly crop up on this topic, it seems that either folks have no idea how to use the search function, or they simply do not wish to hear the truth, looking instead for some kind of validation for their bad ideas.

If you want to shoot 9mm, what is wrong with just buying a 9mm?

Thank you MP1SG for lending some common sense to this thread.
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As someone stated, Guns and Gear Outpost does not show the barrels on their website. Call them at 413 786-0100.

Another note is I spoke to Chris, at Guns and Gear, and he told me the 9mm barrels are S&W factory barrels. They purchase directly from Smith, and sell them to the public.

Lastly is we get posts saying this conversion does not work, or should not work, it will be dangerous, etc. I will be the first to say this is BS. I have an Mechanical Engineering background and also served a full four year Tool & Die Maker Apprentice Program. So I know how products are designed and I know how to make them. I have all the equipment to measure, and compare and the 40 barrel and 9mm barrel only differ on two points: 1. The bore diameter; 2. The width of the tang/tab at the top rear of the barrel (sight hole). I am thinking S&W designed the tang/tab variance so the assembly line didn't put a 40 barrel into a 9mm slide, however the 9mm will drop into the 40 slide???

Converting the full sized M&P 40 to .357 or 9mm, with a barrel swap, has been going on for years, with no problems. So now we are doing the same with the Shield 40, and the naysayers are back. How can they keep knocking something that works. Case head size variance of .010 inch is going to make a huge difference. I don't think so. I've done the barrel swap, along with Smitty357, wingnut, and others. It works, it's not dangerous, subject to problems, etc. Anyone thinking about the Shield barrel swap should not take the naysayers warnings into consideration. They point out a possible problem, but all testing and operation of the barrel swap proves their suppositions to not be valid.

There are people out there that are convinced they are right, and that is it. You can prove them wrong and then you hear, "ya, but". After my brief testing of the 9mm barrel operation, I found it worked perfectly. However I only put around 50 rounds through the conversion, and using only one brand of ammo. This would not be near enough for me to trust my life with it. But after several hundred rounds, including a couple of boxes of my carry ammo, I would have no worry about using it for carry. This being said, I bought the 40 for carry, and the 9mm is for practice only, in my case.

I also propose that some Shield 9mm owners will barrel swap to the 40. All that would be required to make this swap would be to remove .010 inch (less than 1/64 inch) from each side of the tang/tab of the 40 barrel. They would have to purchase 40 mags, as the 40 cartridges will not fit into the 9mm mags. They would be good to go and the 40 barrel would actually fit into the 9mm slide better than the 9mm barrel fits into the 40 slide. Less side to side movement when in battery.

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Seems the biggest reason t convert an M&P from 9mm to .40 is ammo costs but with the cost of a 9mm barrel and mag near $100 and a case of 9mm another $250 to $300 consider 1000 rounds of 22 lr is $50 and a .22lr M&P about $350 ,
Would it not be more cost effective to purchase an M&P 22 for cheap plinking and recoup the cost of the gun with every 1000 rounds fired ?

Just sayin...
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No problem, It seems so easy to uderstand how this "could" I say again "could" be an issue.
But we tried to warn these amatuer gunslingers. I just hope no one gets hurt.
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No problem, It seems so easy to uderstand how this "could" I say again "could" be an issue.
But we tried to warn these amatuer gunslingers. I just hope no one gets hurt.
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So what about the 40c owners who have been using a factory .357 barrel and a factory 9mm barrel all this time for their conversions, without issues.

Seems to good to be true, lol
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So far on this board about 5+ people have safely converted from .40 to 9mm none of us have had any issue's. I understand where Mp1sg and Shawn McCarver are coming from pretty much it's not a 9mm don't make it a 9mm.

Our testing (very minimal probably total of 3,000 rounds between us) has suggested that this is perfectly fine, safe, and possible. Also with Robkarrob's background/lesson I still see no feasible issues.

Only time will tell if any issues arise but it seems very unlikely.

Also Shawn McCarver if you were referring to me in your post. 1. define quote. 2. reread the thread. And guess what yes I know you can't go up (without some sort of modification) from 9mm to .40 but not everyone knows that (someone posted on this exact thread that question). How am I supposed to know that you know what you're talking about? It's the internet, I can't see your resume of vast gun knowledge.
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So what about the 40c owners who have been using a factory .357 barrel and a factory 9mm barrel all this time for their conversions, without issues.

Seems to good to be true, lol
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40 to .357 sig all day long because the case head is the SAME size, you can even use the same magazines. No issues yet but in time there may be issues
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Case head, case head. I keep seeing this posted as the basis for all the problems that MIGHT happen with the barrel swap.

40 S&W case head .420
9mm case head .388
difference .032

Since the doom and gloom is the case head and the different sizes MAY affect the extraction of the casing from the chamber and May affect the ejection of the casing. Since the casing dimensions is the diameter, the problems pointed out are the side of the casing picked up by the extractor, and knocked out by the ejector, or half .032 which is .016 inch (1/64 of an inch). Could this cause a problem? Yes if S&W had designed those parts differently for each Shield model, and machined them to extreme close tolerances. But fortunately S&W's design allows the barrel swap from 40 to 9mm. I think it is possible that the extractor and ejector are the same for both the 9mm and 40 Shields. If they are the same, then it would not matter what barrel configuration is used. The following paragraph shows the relationship of those two parts for the full sized: M&P 40 and M&P 9mm.

Anyone wanting to check the S&W online parts list (http://www.smith-wesson.com/wcsstore...ist_Retail.pdf), you will find part # 30, ejector, is the same for the full sized M&P 40 and full sized M&P 9mm. This S&W parts list does not list the extractor. But if you check the Apex Tactical parts ( https://apextactical.com/store/produ...pg1-cid11.html ) they show the 40 and 9mm use the same extractor. So it is very likely both Shields use the same parts, and if so, this issue is over.

But again even if they are different parts, which would be very minimally different (1/64 inch case head difference), it does not matter. The Shield 40's, with the 9mm barrels, have been tested by many and found to perform without any problems. So keep on posting that S&W says it won't work, it is dangerous, etc., and we'll keep stating that you're wrong.

Oh by the way the world is coming to an end on December 21. The Mayans can't be wrong, they were among the smartest people on the earth, at the time they developed their calender.

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Case head, case head. I keep seeing this posted as the basis for all the problems that MIGHT happen with the barrel swap.

40 S&W case head .420
9mm case head .388
difference .032

Since the doom and gloom is the case head and the different sizes MAY affect the extraction of the casing from the chamber and May affect the ejection of the casing. Since the casing dimensions is the diameter, the problems pointed out are the side of the casing picked up by the extractor, and knocked out by the ejector, or half .032 which is .016 inch (1/64 of an inch). Could this cause a problem? Yes if S&W had designed those parts differently for each Shield model, and machined them to extreme close tolerances. But fortunately S&W's design allows the barrel swap from 40 to 9mm. I think it is possible that the extractor and ejector are the same for both the 9mm and 40 Shields. If they are the same, then it would not matter what barrel configuration is used. The following paragraph shows the relationship of those two parts for the full sized: M&P 40 and M&P 9mm.

Anyone wanting to check the S&W online parts list (http://www.smith-wesson.com/wcsstore...ist_Retail.pdf), you will find part # 30, ejector, is the same for the full sized M&P 40 and full sized M&P 9mm. This S&W parts list does not list the extractor. But if you check the Apex Tactical parts ( https://apextactical.com/store/produ...pg1-cid11.html ) they show the 40 and 9mm use the same extractor. So it is very likely both Shields use the same parts, and if so, this issue is over.

But again even if they are different parts, which would be very minimally different (1/64 inch case head difference), it does not matter. The Shield 40's, with the 9mm barrels, have been tested by many and found to perform without any problems. So keep on posting that S&W says it won't work, it is dangerous, etc., and we'll keep stating that you're wrong.

Oh by the way the world is coming to an end on December 21. The Mayans can't be wrong, they were among the smartest people on the earth, at the time they developed their calender.

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I am a builder by trade, I would not want a coffee table that i build to be off by .032 let alone a house. For the simple fact that your .032 off thus having a imperfect structure. be it a coffee table house or a dog house.
Oh by the way, the world IS NOT going to end on 12/21/2012. (but sacrasim noted)

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When i first called s&w about the barrels. I was informed that they didnt sell the barrels without the actual pistol (truth be told, they lied). And then they said the 9mm barrel wouldnt swamp into the .40 (truth be told, they lied). IMO, i think they just wanted us to spend more money on another gun (which i already have both the .40 and 9mm Shield), so why the hell would I want to buy another one, lol.

I've been testing this theory months before anyone ever found a barrel for sale on line. At the time I was swapping my 9mm barrel from my 9mm shield into my .40 shield. I never had a single problem with it the whole time. Now after putting my hands on a designated 9mm barrel for my .40 (this allows my ole lady to keep my factory 9mm shield on her at all times now). I've put this 9mm barrel through the paces and once again, there is no problems with it. I believe I stand by a few others who have also done this same conversion, and they will also tell you there has been no problems.

You would think that after all this time, by now one of us should have found a problem.
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You win, your right, and we all all wrong. Now with your experience in construction, you'll not have to worry about your coffee table falling over or your house collapsing because they were built to construction standards of 1/32 inch, I'm sure. Forgot to mention I was a Commercial Construction Manager for 6 years, and for some reason I don't remember holding tolerances to 1/32 inch, but we were probably doing it wrong. Maybe we just got lucky as I don't remember any of our projects falling down, but there again my memory ain't what it used to be.

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Anyone wanting to check the S&W online parts list (http://www.smith-wesson.com/wcsstore...ist_Retail.pdf), you will find part # 30, ejector, is the same for the full sized M&P 40 and full sized M&P 9mm. This S&W parts list does not list the extractor. But if you check the Apex Tactical parts ( https://apextactical.com/store/produ...pg1-cid11.html ) they show the 40 and 9mm use the same extractor. So it is very likely both Shields use the same parts, and if so, this issue is over.



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Nice to see someone else understands this. You know the parts are the same for the M&P's. Have you ever tried the barrel swap yourself, and what were the results?

Are you in Alaska? What general area? I'm sure your used to the winter weather. I left Michigan for Florida because of the winters. Michigan is nothing compared to Alaska's winters. I'm sitting here, watching TV and posting on my laptop, doors and windows open, 79 degrees.

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You win, your right, and we all all wrong. Now with your experience in construction, you'll not have to worry about your coffee table falling over or your house collapsing because they were built to construction standards of 1/32 inch, I'm sure. Forgot to mention I was a Commercial Construction Manager for 6 years, and for some reason I don't remember holding tolerances to 1/32 inch, but we were probable doing it wrong. Maybe we just got lucky as I don't remember any of our projects falling down, but there again my memory ain't what it used to be.

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Thanks, I can use it and anything else that might help my diminishing capacities.

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Nice to see someone else understands this. You know the parts are the same for the M&P's. Have you ever tried the barrel swap yourself, and what were the results?

Are you in Alaska? What general area? I'm sure your used to the winter weather. I left Michigan for Florida because of the winters. Michigan is nothing compared to Alaska's winters. I'm sitting here, watching TV and posting on my laptop, doors and windows open, 79 degrees.

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No I haven't tried it yet, as I could only get my hands on a shield 9. My cousin has done it, but that's not really proof to anyone else because this is the internet, and anybody can say anything. But he said he hasn't had an issue yet. He's the one that turned me on to being able to swap out barrels. As I gave the shield to my girlfriend for her birthday (see thread Color Crazy) I'll be getting a 9 barrel once I get my .40 for cheaper shooting and practice.

I live on the Kenai Peninsula, where the motto is "A quaint little drinking town, with a serious fishing problem" haha. I work up on the North Slope/Deadhorse, it's where the Ice Road Truckers are driving to. It was -49 with the wind today, so envy wouldn't begin to describe 79 degrees. Only about 130 degrees different lol. I did go to Orlando last month on vacation and am seriously considering moving there though.
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