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I'm getting a little impatient waiting for a reasonable priced Shield and now I'm considering a P290 instead. Anybody out there with hands on experience with both pistols?
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I like the trigger better on the Shield
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I had a P290 once.....My experience with it wasn't so good. First was the feel. For a dimensionally small gun it felt very heavy and fat, which wasn't helped by its super stubby 1 1/2 finger(in my hand) grip. The trigger has an odd feel to it also. The worst part was the trigger broke(failed to reset) in the first 100 rounds. It was sent back to Sig and when returned from the repair the pistol had a 50% light strike rate At this point the dealer took it back and that was the end of that.
Honestly, hang in there for a Shield..
The Shield is best sub-compact carry pistol available, believe me I have tried them all
No other subbie offers the total package of reliability, proper dimensions, weight, capacity, trigger feel and value that the Shield does.
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I have not seen an Shield, and have only handled and dry fired the 290. I thought the trigger stroke on the Sig was rather long for such a small pistol with a short sight radius. I've also handled and fired the Kahr and Ruger LC9. I found the long trigger stroke to be a detriment to good accuracy. As I have read, the Shield has the same trigger as the others in the M&P pistol line, which should make it a much better shooter. The DA only triggers on these really small semis cannot even be compared to the DA trigger of a S&W J-frame either. The J-frame is better.
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As I have read, the Shield has the same trigger as the others in the M&P pistol line
Actually the Shield does not have the same trigger as the previous M&Ps.
The Shield has an improved trigger, with better pull/break characteristics and most importantly a tactile and audible reset point. The Shield's trigger is supposedly going be incorporated into the future full size and compact M&Ps.
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I own a Shield and have shot the P290. I passed on the P290.

If you want a comparable sized Sig, check out the P938.
A bit smaller in all dimensions than the Shield (just a hair bigger than the p238 380), 16oz empty (as opposed to 19oz empty) and a single action trigger... Basically a mini 1911 9mm.

The 938's recoil is a bit snappier than the Shield (the Shield's recoil is about even with the G26) and costs about $650, as opposed to the Shield being about $400.

And yes... The Shield DOES have a different (and better) trigger than than the other M&Ps. I don't know where 'walkin trails' read that it was the same, but those articles/sites are greatly mistaken.
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I own a Shield and have shot the P290. I passed on the P290.

If you want a comparable sized Sig, check out the P938.
The Sig P290 is about 0.5" smaller than the Shield in height and length. I've never been a big fan of small frame sub-compacts that you can only fit at most 2 fingers on the grip.

The Kahr PM9 is closer in size to the Sig P290. I would go to a LGS and get a feel for these firearms and see which fits YOU better. Some places will even let you rent firearms with a box of ammo. Good luck finding a Shield in stock to try though.
The Kahr is the lightest of the 3, weighing only 15.9oz
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I have the P290RS and it has a much better trigger than the nonRS had, (so beware old news about the P290, it's not the same weapon)
The P290 is a 9mm, easy to be accurate with, weighs 20oz, delivers 7rds, 8w/extended mag,has EXCELLENT night sights, comes with a laser if you want to use one, and I like it more than the shield, the nano or the ruger, hands down. It is the same manual of arms as my S&WJframe and CZ. No safety. Excellent conceled/BUG. Good house gun too.
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Be patient my friend. I recently purchased a Glock 26 and love it, the wifey did not...grip to wide for her small hands. Did a lot looking around and decided on the Shield 9mm for her (found and bought one Thursday). I really like it...shot 125 rds and recoil very comparable to my G26. However, its not as accurate IMHO. The Shield is a great pistol for the price and I think its worth the wait if you really want one. Just don't buy something and then end up regretting your decision...thats basically what I'm trying to say. Good Luck!
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I surrender! I'll wait for the Shield; the supply is bound to catch up with the demand eventually.
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Okay I've been stalking this forum for a quite some time. I registered just because I wanted to post a reply to your quest for feedback. I know you feel you've already made your decision. However, I feel anyone looking at small pocket 9mm should seriously consider the Sig P290RS (NOT the regular Sig P290). For the record, I own a S&W M&P PSX AR-15, a Smith and Wesson MOE AR15-22, 2 M&P 9c's, one of which has an upgraded trigger. The M&P is my daily carry weapon, so I'm a big Smith & Wesson fan. That said, I didn't purchase one of these guns based on the fact that it was a Smith and Wesson alone. I did my research and in the end I decided the PSX was the best Piston Driven AR for the money. Same with my AR 15-22. Did my research and again, best AR-22 for the money. And the same held true for my Pistols.

The reason I have two M&P 9c's one is supposed to be my wife's daily carry, but as a petite woman she struggles carrying it and only does if she's going out somewhere alone in her purse. I'm not a big fan of purse carry, and neither is she (you know off the body and all, and the purse itself is a target for theft).

She's been looking at smaller guns, and considering a .380. Initially, when researching I found the Sig P290. So, we went to a local range that had one and I had her shoot it. The experience was not good. The trigger was awful, and it had several malfunctions. That was my first experience with a Sig, and I was not impressed. She liked the gun in her hand, but the experience was a big turn off. I also found way too many bad reviews and just shut it out of my research. I have a buddy who has a Shield and she loved it, but it was still a little on the big side for her. I was really turned off by the manual safety on the Shield (personal preference I know). But, it was definitely easier than the 9c to conceal, so we started looking but we just couldn't find one to purchase anywhere.

Well fast forward a few months and after more research and seeing that Sig has released an updated P290RS model that had positive reviews; hesitantly, I purchased a two tone Sig P290RS two weeks ago. I got a pretty good deal on it so I figured I wouldn't loose much if I needed to sell it. I got it brand new with a laser for just under $475 out the door from a LGS. The guy there basically sold it to me for a hair over cost as I've been a good customer.

Fit and finish are impeccable. Tear down was a pain in the butt at first. It's not exactly an easy process, but now I can remove the slide and barrel in just a few seconds. It's really not hard once you get used to it. I cleaned everything, and applied frog lube throughout. The gun was a bit "stiff" at first. So, I took some time and worked the slide and trigger action probably a 200-300 times with dummy rounds. Basically I figured I'd loosen it up good before actually firing it. I also wanted to make sure there were no manufacturing burs & such left over. I really wanted this thing working perfect for her when she gets it (also a good excuse to fire it :-D).

I finally took it the a range the other day and let me tell you this is one sweet little 9mm pocket gun. I am this close to just keeping this gun for myself. I fired 100 rounds through it with no malfunctions whatsoever. 40 hollow points and the rest a mix of Brass and Steel cased FMJ rounds. It fed everything awesome, the slide lock functioned perfectly, the magazine ejects easily, rounds fed, fired and ejected awesome.

There is one negative I feel I need to mention though. The ejected brass is leaving scrape marks on the brass. I know brass gets a little beat up just by nature of cycling, but this is definitely more marks than my M&P 9c's leave for sure. I didn't notice this till after the first 20 rounds after I'd picked up some of the brass. So, I took the gun apart and cleaned it again. Fired a few more rounds and the empty cases started looking a little better. All in all it's very comfortable to shoot.

For my final rounds I limp wristed the gun and it still kept firing without any issues. Also, the trigger is long, but on the RS model it's also very smooth. I had no issues getting several shots in a nice hand sized group from 7 yards. It's weight makes it feel like you are shooting a bigger gun. Since firing it, I have installed a Hogue sleeve grip on it because she loves those on other guns she handled. I am a little worried what it will do for the grip, but I feel she'll really like that on it and it's easily removed if she doesn't.

Now, I've got it all cleaned and put back in the box. I'm just waiting for Chrismas to come around. I've already contacted the LGS and asked if he can get another one as I'd love it for deep concealment days when it would be a lot easier to carry than my 9c. So far, it's not looking like I'll be able to get another one for that price :-(. But, I may just fork over the extra dough for one, and maybe forgo the laser this time around for myself. I've got a local guy making a custom pancake holster for it tomorrow, and I'm thinking I may just have him make two of them lol.

What I like about the Sig P290RS:

Build quality is very good.
Laser works well and is easy to activate (I have read reports of these having issues, but no issues here).
Excellent factory night sights.
Grip is excellent (some complain about it being too rough.) I found the grip was awesome. It felt like it was part of my hand. Pretty cool for such a small little nine. It was a dream to shoot.
Nice smooth trigger.
Reliable so far.
Very small pocket 9mm. This just disappears in a pocket.

What I don't like about the Sig P290RS:

Tear down is not intuitive. I highly doubt my wife will be able to tear it down as easily as I can.
Some scraped up brass (maybe I'm just being picky?)

What I like about the Shield:

What I like about the shield. It's so similar to my other pistols.
Awesome trigger
Excellent grip
Reliable
Easy to shoot
Bigger grip for larger hands

What I don't like about the Shield:

A little on the big side as compared to the Sig. Not truly pocketable in my opinion.
Manual Safety
Availability (though this will improve eventually)

Anyway, in my opinion, the Sig P290RS is well worth considering. Don't let it out of your radar screen just yet. I know I'm personally having a hard time letting myself give it to my wife. But, I care about her being armed more of course.

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I'll second the Sig P938. I have 3 Shield and recently acquired a gently used P938 Nightmare. Great little gun, super accurate and with the extended mag good grip.

I've got +300 rounds through it and no malfunctions. Feeds everything.

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I have had a 9mm Shield for most of 2012. I just ordered a P290RS two tone with laser as a backup to the Shield. When it arrives in a few days Ill post a comparison. I have no doubt Ill like them both.
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I rarely put down my Shield long enough to carry my Colt 1911. And yes, i do carry the Colt from time to time. More often when im only gone for a few hours. But man it sure is hard to leave my Shield at home knowing how great of a weapon it is.

I can only imagine how miserable my Shield would feel if i left it home because i wanted to carry a Sig. Matter of fact, my Shield would probably jump up and start beating my evil black rifles up just to take out some frustration.
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I really like it...shot 125 rds and recoil very comparable to my G26. However, its not as accurate IMHO. !


i had the same impression after handling G26 and Shield for the first time. But we are talking about SD guns and not range guns. G26 is harder to conceal and hard to shoot with one hand (mine).
On the first image attached is my first ever try with rented G26 (25 rounds). The second image with the shield right after i bought it (first 100-200 rounds) - group in center was using longer 8 rd mag and group a bit out of center is using shorter 7rd mag (15 rounds all together). AT THAT TIME I WAS USING STOCK SIGHTS, which are quite good. The third image is my Shield after 2,500-3,000 rounds. it feels naturally now - 4 mags (30 rounds) at the rate 1 shot/sec. The only difference between 2nd and 3rd images is i replaces stock sights with XS Big Dot night sights, which are NOT range sights, but quick acquisition self-defense sights. all targets at 21-22 feet.

The more i own Shield the more and more i like it. BTW, the B&W target on the last image is Shield as well somewhere between 21 and 25 yards (after 20 yards mark but before end of range). It's life-size target and i missed only some shots into the head. I believe i nailed all shots into the body.
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I have had a 9mm Shield for most of 2012. I just ordered a P290RS two tone with laser as a backup to the Shield.
I ordered LCP and XDm compact as backup for my Shield. but i like Shield most for CC
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I had a P290 once.....My experience with it wasn't so good. First was the feel. For a dimensionally small gun it felt very heavy and fat, which wasn't helped by its super stubby 1 1/2 finger(in my hand) grip. The trigger has an odd feel to it also. The worst part was the trigger broke(failed to reset) in the first 100 rounds. It was sent back to Sig and when returned from the repair the pistol had a 50% light strike rate At this point the dealer took it back and that was the end of that.
Honestly, hang in there for a Shield..
The Shield is best sub-compact carry pistol available, believe me I have tried them all
No other subbie offers the total package of reliability, proper dimensions, weight, capacity, trigger feel and value that the Shield does.
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I agree. I have owned a Kahr CM9 and Beretta Nano and shot every major brand sub compact in 9 mm and S&W got it right with the Shield 9mm.

Shoots straight, feels good in the hand, reliable, excellent trigger, sturdy build, durable finish and backed with a lifetime warranty. What else can you ask for in a weapon?

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I have read mostly positive reviews on the newer P290RS (don't confuse it with a similar looking older P290 fail and the reason for the P290RS)...I haven't been able to try all of these next to each other but I passed on the Shield just because of the thumb safety (I'm a Southpaw)...

I know some will say "just leave the safety off" but I am a devotee of Murphy's Law so I passed...

I also considered a Springfield XDs in 9mm but also passed as I don't own any XD pistols and don't know that I trust the grip safety on a pistol so small...

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I have the P290RS and it has a much better trigger than the nonRS had, (so beware old news about the P290, it's not the same weapon)
The P290 is a 9mm, easy to be accurate with, weighs 20oz, delivers 7rds, 8w/extended mag,has EXCELLENT night sights, comes with a laser if you want to use one, and I like it more than the shield, the nano or the ruger, hands down. It is the same manual of arms as my S&WJframe and CZ. No safety. Excellent conceled/BUG. Good house gun too.

I own a 290RS also and I love it. It does have a long trigger pull but it's not hard to get used to. Very accurate out of the box. Absolutely love the night sights. It is my summer carry pistol. 9c for jacket weather.

Also, there is a company selling a trigger spring kit to lighten the pull on the Sig. They also have 22 lb. recoil springs, stainless recoil spring rods and just came out with an adjustable trigger.

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sorry...I'm the one that bumped it looking for comparisons between the P290 and Shield...should have started a new one...

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Don't be sorry, I'm still following this thread and I still haven't found a Shield for a reasonable price in my area. The Sig is still on my radar. I've got several other suitable carry guns so I'm not suffering.
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I sold my sig P290RS for the Shield and do not regret it at all. IMO the Shield has a better trigger, holds one more round, is thinner, feels better in my hand, gives me a full two finger grip. Both are reliable but I much prefer to carry the Shield.

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I sold my sig P290RS for the Shield and do not regret it at all. IMO the Shield has a better trigger, holds one more round, is thinner, feels better in my hand, gives me a full two finger grip. Both are reliable but I much prefer to carry the Shield.

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Shield is .95" wide. Sig is 1.1" wide with the slide/takedown lever. .9 without. Not enough to be noticeable IMHO.

The sig is, however, .6" shorter in length (barrel is only .2" shorter) and .7" shorter in height. That is noticeable.

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P290 looks more like a lighter to me. Lol
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I'm actually glad that this thread came up. I have a .40 Shield and am seriously comtemplating one of the Sig P290. I handled one the other day and am now starting my research to see if I want to make the investment or not.

Are mags the same PIA/expensive for it as they are for my Sig Mosquito?
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Mags are around $40 and up. EBay has them all the time.

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Not to confuse this thread too much....but I was on the hunt for a Shield to compliment my M&P FS...but did some research on the Bersa BP9CC. My LGS had one of each side by side. As I dry fired the Shield, I didn't care for the trigger pull. The Bersa, which I bought, measures out @ 4.25 lbs on the trigger. I'm a S&W guy, but am totally impressed with the Bersa.
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I have both, the P290rs and the Shield. Each has it's own purpose. SIG for the very deep concealment. SIG trigger is neither as heavy nor as long as most say. The key is practice and it is very accurate at defensive distances and out to 20-25 yards. The Shield, while a bit larger is still easy to conceal. My M&P 9c has a better trigger than the Shield, but as a CCW, I am okay with the heavier trigger pull, and I do not use the safety. The Shield shoots about 1" left of center while the SIG is dead on. As I have said, each has a place in your rotation for EDC.
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I agree with the P938. I have the SAS version. That little 9 will put bullets right where you want them, the trigger is just hard enough to pull that it "seems" safer yet I can put bullet after bullet right where I want it.
Had the M&P 40c and liked it but sold it. Too big. Now looking for a shield but I think after reading this review I'll look at the 290rs as well.
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I just picked up my P290RS...first impressions without shooting it are...

Feels nice to my hand for a small 9mm pistol...grips are grippy ...sights are SiGs usual (well Meprolights anyway) excellent white dots during the day and green glowing at night...the trigger felt better after just a bit of dry firing and a touch of lube (after cleaning the pistol)...the little finger step on the 6 round mag is just right for me...and I've got fairly big hands with long fingers...I like the very positive feel and ejection with force of the magazine release...I chose the Nitron version as I have had good luck with this finish and bristle at the thought of paying more for the slide with no finish even if I like 2 Tone pistols... (sure I know the plane stainless needs some work the Nitron might cover up and that's the reason for the cost but hey...still...)

I'm really hoping this is a winner and I don't regret passing on the Shield (as a SouthPaw I drew the line with the slide safety...Murphy's Law and all)...or the XDs...a bit more money than the P290RS or the Shield...as well as some added weight and size by comparison...

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I'm leaning towards the 290RS. I wish they made the Shield with a 6 round mag and cut 1/2" off the barrel so it could be a better pocket gun. Seems silly that the grip is longer than the 9c; especially when the extended mag can give you all the grip length and still keep the option for deep concealment. I suppose I'll end up with both at some point.
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I have had a 9mm Shield for most of 2012. I just ordered a P290RS two tone with laser as a backup to the Shield. When it arrives in a few days Ill post a comparison. I have no doubt Ill like them both.
Ok much longer than a few days but I have had the 290rs since 2 days after the above post. I do not like it. I have not been able to get used to the trigger after almost 100 rounds and nightly dry fire training with Laserlytes Laser target trainer. Other than that its a nice gun. Fit and finish it fine. Breaks down easy. I just can not get used to the trigger. Its to the point that I am thinking about selling it and getting another shield or the Ruger. The gun is accurate and works well, its just a matter of preference. I guess Im not a DAO person.

I can hit what I point at with the P290RS but its not fun to shoot. I have a concern that since its not an enjoyable pistol I might not shoot it as much as I should.

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Old 07-10-2013, 09:18 AM
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I agree the trigger is different than those on a GLOCK/S&W/Springfield XD family pistols but should be no issue for those used to a pivoting trigger on DA/SA or DAO triggers...mine feels sweet...hope you get yours worked out or get something that fits you better mlapaglia...

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Old 07-10-2013, 10:03 AM
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All of my carry guns are DAO, even my revolver (Ruger LCR .357). Once you get used to it, that is most likely what you will resort to in a stressful defensive situation. Providing you don"t have a dedicated SA auto. I find the faster (but not too fast) I pull the SIG trigger the smoother the break. I agree, if you try to stage the trigger it is long and uncomfortable. I hope you don't give up on it. It is a good, deep concealment weapon.
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Handlebar: How would you compare the 290rs trigger to the LCR's? I've got the 357 LCR too (sweet gun). I haven't handled the 290rs yet. Thanks.
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Old 07-10-2013, 11:02 AM
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I own a P290, but have shot both. I like them both, but like the Shield better. I bought my p290 before the Shields came out... Or I would have bought a shield... It just feels better to me....
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The LCR is smoother and lighter. The P290 is smooth but heavier. I like both guns and anticipate the trigger when I carry them. Meaning, a couple of dry fires first before I holster it. Then I remember what I have to do
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Just make sure you compare the P290RS trigger and not the earlier P290 trigger...the RS version is said to have a much nicer trigger than the original version...

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Old 07-10-2013, 07:40 PM
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Yes, i am comparing the SIG P290RS to the Ruger LCR.
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I agree the trigger is different than those on a GLOCK/S&W/Springfield XD family pistols but should be no issue for those used to a pivoting trigger on DA/SA or DAO triggers...mine feels sweet...hope you get yours worked out or get something that fits you better mlapaglia...

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Bill, thanks for the words of encouragement. The only other gun I have that fires with a DAO type trigger is my 1952 Pre-model 27. I dont fire it enough to in DAO to compare it to the SIG. Ill give it a few more months. Hopefully the nightly dry fires on the laserlyte trainer will help as will a lot more range time. I want to like it. Hopefully I will. If not someone will get a great deal on a Sig P290RS 2 tone with laser.
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Good to hear...I know that I've been shooting Glock type triggers of late but I also shoot SIG DA/SA along with 1911 pattern pistols with their SA type...

I really liked the feel of the Shield and XDs as they were familiar to me at the gun shop...even disliked the feel of e SIG P290rs (because of that SIG banner label around the entire grip) but was pleasantly surprised thus far dry firing...I am really hoping the range experience is at least as positive...

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I’ve had the 290RS for about 8 months. I actually stumbled across it out looking for a small carry with the wife. We looked at the 938, 238, LCR, LCP, Nano, CM9, and couldn’t find the Unicorn that is the Shield. The first thing that grabbed us was how well it fit and felt in the hand. Having and SR9c the DAO trigger was very awkward at first, but the fit and feel and positive reviews for the RS version made it easy to take the plunge. It is a very well made pistol and we loved the night sights. Now my one and only gripe would be the take down of the 290. Once I figured it out it was a breeze for me, but for the wife that's a different story. But after the first range trip and taking the time to learn the DAO trigger it is a great shooting pistol. We have 500rds down the pipe and not a single issue. I do know that Galloway Precision is working with RTK triggers for an even smoother, shorter, and lighter pulling trigger kit. And after speaking with both of them, it sounds very promising. Nothing wrong with the way it is now once you learn the DAO, but anything has room for improvement. MTF on that as I will give it a shot. I can whole heartedly recommend the 290RS for a small carry pistol.
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I do know that Galloway Precision is working with RTK triggers for an even smoother, shorter, and lighter pulling trigger kit.
The spring kit and adjustable trigger are already available. However, the trigger does not allow the restrike to work. They are working on another one that will.
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The spring kit and adjustable trigger are already available. However, the trigger does not allow the restrike to work. They are working on another one that will.
Yeah I was tracking that, I was talking with Jeri from RTK and was about to pull the trigger on the kit when I saw the message from Eric on GP's site. Jeri said they had the RS coming to them from Eric so it should be in the R&D phase by now.

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Had my .40 Shield for a year. Lots of rounds through it. Accurate and reliable as a sd/dc weapon. I use paper plates as targets (cheap). Draw a 2" circle in the middle. All rounds are on the plate with 4 or 5 in the circle. The feel of it is similar to my Bersa Thunder .380 which also is accurate. I believe the Shield is more reliable, so that is my daily carry.

I have a Bersa Thunder .22 for practice. Looks just like the .380 and weighs almost the same. It would be great if there was a Shield like .22 with the same trigger pull to use for practice.
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First post on this forum, but I own the Shield 9 and the P290rs, and just shot them side by side a few days ago, so thought I'd offer a few thoughts.

Trigger: The 290rs is definitely long, but is smooth with very little stacking and breaks clean. My wife's primary range gun is a Sig2022, so both of us have a lot of experience with a DA Sig trigger. The biggest difference is that the reset on the 290 is way longer (basically all the way out) vs the shorter reset on the 2022 as it kicks into SA after the first shot. After adjusting for this, it was very easy for both of us to shoot the 290 well and with reasonably fast follow up shots. The Shield is a much shorter pull, with a bit of a "wall" at the point of the break. I shoot an XDM 3.8 compact 45 most of the time, so the Shield's trigger just feels like a stiffer version of that. Since the frame is also smaller on the Shield, I found that moving more of my finger through the trigger guard so the trigger face hits closer to the joint (rather than the middle of the finger pad) helps with comfort and also gives me a bit more leverage to get the Shield to break. All that being said, we put several mags through the 290 the other day, and when I picked up the Shield, I definitely experienced a "surprise break" as my trigger finger was still thinking DA...

Accuracy: I understand that these are SD and not target guns, but the 290 is definitely more accurate for both the wife and me. Out of the box, we both shot groups of well under 2" at 5 yards with the 290, and just a little wider at 7, using a basic Weaver stance. I can pretty much hit what I want with the Shield, but was shocked at how much of a tack driver the 290 is. As somebody mentioned earlier, I tend to shoot the Shield slightly left as well.

Sights: Perhaps this has something to do with the accuracy but the even in daylight the night sights on the Sig are way better than the Shield's white 3-dots. As a side-note, I used glow-on paint on the front sight of the Shield, which helped a lot, but the Sig still wins.

Recoil: This is something I haven't seen a lot of comments on, but the recoil on these two guns is very different. The muzzle flip / jumpiness is more noticeable on the Shield. With my wife especially, she felt that the Shield was bouncing all over the place as she was shooting. I certainly felt that the Sig was quicker to get back on target. On the other hand, the Shield is more comfortable to shoot, especially as the round count gets high. My personal and unscientific opinion is that the bore axis and/or center of gravity differs and is higher on the Shield. This causes the recoil to produce more flip. The Sig stays down and just pounds you in the seam of the hand just between the heal and the palm. Basically right above the fat area below the thumb where the back of the grip sits. I have put 600 rounds through my compact 45 in under 4 days and never experienced discomfort like I did with under 100 rounds in the 290. That doesn't make it any less of a fantastic SD gun, but extended range visits may require some Advil.

Comfort to carry: This is a toss-up, and really depends on how you carry. In a combat-cut IWB where the grip is directly against the skin, the Shield has the advantage, as the sandpaper type grip on the 290 will rub you raw. Pocket carry favors the Sig with its smaller dimensions. Btw, it shoots just fine with a pinkie tucked under the smaller mag (which is pretty much required for pocket carry), but the extended mag is a little more comfortable to shoot.

Reliability: Both were a little stiff at first (especially the Shield), but they run with no issues, except the occasional failure to lock back on empty with certain mags (both guns). I'm pretty sure that will resolve itself as I break the mags in. Given all the negative press about the 290, I just thought I would throw that in and mention that the 290rs ran great right out of the box and had no FTF with some cheap target ammo. I haven't put sd rounds through it yet.

Bottom line, both are great for what they are for. My wife shoots DA/SA a lot and prefers the Sig, despite the more painful recoil. I like the striker-fired Shield even though I am a little more accurate with the Sig. I guess when it comes to the type of trigger, in the heat of the moment I want to go with what I know will be more natural for me.

Hope this helps.
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I have both the P290RS and the Shield. Just like so many others before me have said, the trigger pull is quite long for the Sig, but with practice you become very familiar with the pull and it is quite smooth. I like the Shield mainly because I have smaller hands and even though it is only 0.06" thinner than the 290, it is sculpted at the top of the frame that makes it feel like its paper thin. My wife has a G26 and she said she likes the way the Shield feels better than the Glock too (now I just have to find another for her). For the money, at least what I paid ($550) for the P290RS, Sig night sights, and laser it is a fantastic deal for the money. Sig quality it still excellent, just as good as my 226 and 229s. With that said, I carry the Shield and will until I find a reason not to anymore. Lack of night sights a big deal? Nope. Safety? Don't have to use it just because its there.

Good luck with your choice, but having both won't kill you if you can't decide. =)
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I love my shield. But the 290rs comes with factory night sights and is a really nice gun over all.
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I handled the 290 yesterday at my LGS and for a very small gun, it felt quite heavy. I can't imagine pocket carrying it after carrying the Kahr CM9 @ only 14 oz.
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