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Old 02-06-2013, 09:26 PM
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Default Does the M&P .40 have an adjustable trigger?

Gander Mountain has the M&P .40S&W (15+1, not thumb safety) on sale for $499 (I have no found any of these cheaper at my LGS at this time).

I've read somewhere on here that the trigger is adjustable. Is this something that can be done out of the box or do you need a special kit. I'm concerned with there being no thumb safety, so I'd want the trigger pull to be around 9 or 10 lbs.
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No it is not adjustable, per say. S&W sells a MA state 10 pound trigger pull on all models. You would have to special order that model, as it normally is only sold in MA. You would be the exception, as most want a lower trigger pull pressure, not higher. The gun is safe and even at the 6.5 pounds stock pull, the gun is not going to get accidentially fired. Your finger has to pull the trigger back to get the gun to fire. There are trigger kits available that make the break more crisp, shorten the reset, and spring combinations to change the stock pull of 6.5 pound to 5, 4, and 3 pounds pull. I can only speculate you are new to handguns and are worrird about accidential firing. The guns are designed to be safe and accidental firing are a result of unsafe gun handling, not due to low trigger pull pressure.

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No it is not adjustable, per say. S&W sells a MA state 10 pound trigger pull on all models. You would have to special order that model, as it normally is only sold in MA. You would be the exception, as most want a lower trigger pull pressure, not higher. Your finger has to pull the trigger back to get the gun to fire. There are trigger kits available that make the break more crisp, shorten the reset, and spring combinations to change the stock pull of 6.5 pound to 5, 4, and 3 pounds pull. I can only speculate you are new to handguns and are worrird about accidential firing. The guns are designed to be safe and accidental firing are a result of unsafe gun handling, not due to low trigger pull pressure.

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Not new to handguns, just new to full size semi-autos. I like the longer, heavier trigger pull like on revolvers, which to me is like a built in safety. The small semis that I shot, like the LCP and Kahr CM9, had a long revolver like trigger pull. I don't want a gun with some hot-headed trigger like a Glock, but without the built in safeties that the Glock has. Does the M&P have a trigger type safety similar to a Glock?

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I find that the M&P has a long trigger pull much like my S&W 686. I also have a S&W 622 that is very short. Mine came with the MA compliant 10+ lbs pull and I changed it out as I found it to be more than needed. The trigger also has a hinged lower section that needs to be pulled on with your finger on it to shoot.
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The best and most reliable safety is to keep your finger out of the trigger guard until the pistol is lined up on your target. If you don't stick you finger into the trigger guard there is no way the trigger will be pulled.
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All modern guns have built in safeties of some type. The M&P's have a trigger safety that does not allow the trigger to move unless there is pressure on the lower part of the trigger. To me this is the most useless safety around. If the top of the trigger is pulled, or gets snagged, the trigger won't move. What are the chances of that happening? The trigger is going to get caught from the middle to bottom, and the trigger will move.

Most all handguns, including the M&P's, have a firing pin/striker safety block. These prevent the guns from firing unless the trigger is pulled back to near the break point, then the safety releases and the gun will fire. This safety prevents the gun from firing even if the gun is dropped.

I think you will find the stock trigger pull is fine and safe with practice. Depending on your use, if you going to carry it, you will need a holster. As long as the holster covers the trigger, the gun would be as safe as if it had a manual safety. I have a model 60 revolver, and it starts pulling at near 12 pounds and reduces to 8 pounds at the break. I don't feel it is any safer, but it is much harder to shoot good and accurately with such a strong trigger pull. It is not comfortable for any long shooting sessions. I would never think of using it for carry, now that I have my Shield 40.

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I'm concerned with there being no thumb safety, so I'd want the trigger pull to be around 9 or 10 lbs.
Chris, I'm an old revolver shooter and pistol instructor, and I shoot both revolver and M&P 9mm in competition regularly.

The M&P as it comes is just right for us revolver shooters, and the 6.5# trigger will take very little getting used to for you. The problem I have is with 1911 shooters switching to the M&P who demand that it be like a 4# single action trigger, which requires much work and makes the gun questionable for daily carry.

No offense, but you need to learn to shoot the pistol and learn its manual of arms ( a good instructor helps) before you start trying to redesign the trigger. As to safety, the stock M&P has 3 internal safeties, and will not fire unless the trigger is pulled. You need a good holster that does not have a strap to catch in the trigger guard (I recommend the Safariland ALS, Brownells $47.50) and you need to keep your finger out of the trigger guard until the pistol is pointed at your intended target.

Good shooting!

P.S. My competition revolvers have a 7# trigger pull, and they are as safe as stock, just are picky about what primers they will reliably fire.
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The M&P's trigger is very much like a double action revolver. It requires a very long and deliberate pull to fire. The standard 6-7 pounds is plenty. Ten pounds is too much IMO, making it hard to hit what you are shooting at.
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Chris, I'm an old revolver shooter and pistol instructor, and I shoot both revolver and M&P 9mm in competition regularly.

The M&P as it comes is just right for us revolver shooters, and the 6.5# trigger will take very little getting used to for you. The problem I have is with 1911 shooters switching to the M&P who demand that it be like a 4# single action trigger, which requires much work and makes the gun questionable for daily carry.

As to safety, the stock M&P has 3 internal safeties, and will not fire unless the trigger is pulled. You need a good holster that does not have a strap to catch in the trigger guard (I recommend the Safariland ALS, Brownells $47.50) and you need to keep your finger out of the trigger guard until the pistol is pointed at your intended target.

Good shooting!

P.S. My competition revolvers have a 7# trigger pull, and they are as safe as stock, just are picky about what primers they will reliably fire.
Thanks for the info! I'm looking at a full size M&P .40 so I don't plan on carrying it concealed. It will be a house defense or an "all hell breaks loose" sidearm. However, I'm looking into a M&P Shield 9mm as another possible carry option as well.

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No offense, but you need to learn to shoot the pistol and learn its manual of arms ( a good instructor helps) before you start trying to redesign the trigger.
I have no intention of redesigning the trigger, just wanted to know if it had a built in adjustment. Another poster here implied that it did, and it sounds like he was wrong.
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