I am considering getting a M&P22 to go with my current full size and compact 9's. The 22 in the store I handled the other day had only one dot and the clerk says there are no 3 dot S&W or aftermarket sights available. Call me old fashioned, but I like the 3 dot sight. Are you seeing any accuracy issues using only one dot? My 56 year old eyes want two more dots.

All of the rear sights in the m&p pistols with work on the .22. I'm using a rear sight off the m&p .45. Tere are night sights and truglow sight out there will fight but I don't know what the names are of them.

I just replaced the sights on my M&P 45. I'd consider selling you the rear if you're interested.

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A study of several firearms instructors, using video showed when they drew and fired, under slow motion, with three dot sights, a slight hesitation while " wiggling"
the weapon to insure the three dots were aligned properly. It was suggested a front sight dot only would avoid this movement. Hadent heard anything else for years, perhaps Smith bought into this. This followed a police shooting where under stress and on the move, the officer viewed the three dots as, left to right, front sight dot, left rear dot, right rear dot. That agency changed to different colors for front and rear sights.
makes sense one dot. I teach my inexperanced troops,
The rear sight is a window to look through to place the front sight on the target. Remember smith in the seventies used black rear sights with the red ramp. White outline rear sights were special order.

^^ If that were true, then S&W would've done it for their larger caliber pistols, not just the .22. And viewing the 3 dots in the order that you described doesn't even make sense (even in a stress situation), as the normal sight picture looks like this:
--------------------------------------------------------------- /o||o||o\
And the one you describe would look like this:
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Which means either the officer was lying or just plain incompetent because holding a pistol THAT FAR off of center is really hard to do even under stress.

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Most competition, and many other highly trained tactical shooters run blacked out rear sights and a high visibility sight on the front.

Makes for very quick and accurate target acquisition.

The more I learn the less I like the two dots in the rear. If I were you, I would go the other way and black out the rear dots on the 9mm.

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I just went the other way with my M&P 9mm. Installed 10 8 performance sights for range / competition use. The rear sight is a black U notch without dots, the front is fiber optic.

I find this set up is a little faster for me to get the sights aligned and on target. But, I'm always shooting with good light.


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I'm getting rid of the two dots on the back of my m&p 9 (wife gave me a xs big dot for my birthday). Having installed tomorrow...

How you like your sights is an individual choice. When I was young, a blacked out rear sight was the way to go. Now that I'm in my late sixties, no matter how good a prescription I have in my glasses, the rear sight is very slightly fuzzy in dim light. I added fiber optics to my M&P9, red in front, green in the rear and I can shoot IDPA much faster and accurately with them. On my M&P22, I put flourescent red jig paint over the white front dot and put down a base of white and then flourescent green paint over the rear sights. Works almost as good as the fiber optics. In the photo, the rear sight looks brighter than the front, but both are about the same brightness.

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gordon21 I removed the rear sight on my M&P 40 and replaced it with a Sight Mount rear sight Sight Mount Home If you decide you want a stock rear sight PM me and you can have my take off.

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OK. You guys all may be on to something with the one dot only approach. Put the ONE dot on the target and go. I will test with my old eyes.

Of course there could be the difference in age approach considering that no one can fix 55-70 year old eyes even with lenses to match the 20-30 crowd.

It reminds me of the old story of the two bulls standing on top of the hill looking down at the cows. An old bull and a young hyperactive bull. Well, you guys know the rest of the story. I am forced to go slow............

My eyes are old also, and I really need 3 bright large dots to group at all beyond about 15 feet. This pistol isn't my go-to defense weapon anyway. I can tell it's really accurate but after painting the front dot and trying to paint on two rear dots bright green, it's a little better. Will any of the 9mm M&P fiber optic or Big Dot sights fit the 22?

Nice job. If you can paint that well, your eyesight can't be all that bad.

I much prefer front FO and plain black rear on a pistol. The USPSA publication is called Front Sight because unless you are looking at the front sight, you are giving away time in combat type shooting.
If the pistol is gripped correctly, you will be looking right down the sights, and sight alignment error only causes a couple of inch error at 10 yds anyway.
The first drill we do in Personal Protection Course is have the "precision sighters" purposely misalign their pistol sights and see for themselves how little difference it makes until you get out beyond 15 yds.

Some IDPA and USPSA competition shooters like some color on the rear sight, but they are few in number and usually young. I've been using computer glasses to focus on the front sight and shooting at blurred targets for many years. In my last USPSA match, 20 out of 22 Production shooters had front FO and plain black rear sights.

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