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When I retired in ‘97 my issued weapon was the Glock 23. Later I purchased the M&P 2.0 Compact in 9MM and never looked back. Two weeks ago I shot a 96% w/the M&P at LEOSA quals. IMHO S&W has a superior product.
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06-20-2022, 09:44 AM
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When I retired in ‘97 my issued weapon was the Glock 23. Later I purchased the M&P 2.0 Compact in 9MM and never looked back. Two weeks ago I shot a 96% w/the M&P at LEOSA quals. IMHO S&W has a superior product.
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Agreed. I spent a lot of years carrying issued SIG Sauer P220’s, and ended my career with an issued Gen 5 Glock 17. Now that I’m free to carry whatever I want to, I carry Smith & Wesson.
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06-20-2022, 10:14 AM
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Didn't see a mention of the Califorrnia Highway Patrol moving to the M&P in 40 caliber years ago. The security company I used to work for issued the M&P 40 for years. They changed to the FN 509 but mostly to change calibers. I never really liked the M&P but love my Shield 2 and Shield +.
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06-25-2022, 05:31 PM
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Not sure if it's been mentioned before....but I'll add Austin, Texas PD and the Kenner, La PD (suburb of New Orleans) to the list of those issued M&P's
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06-25-2022, 06:21 PM
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New Mexico State Police went to M&P 9mm a few years ago. The pistol is well-liked by the troops, the caliber not so much (they went to 9mm from 357 Sig).
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06-25-2022, 09:08 PM
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Fresno Ca. Sheriff issues the MP 45.
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06-27-2022, 07:28 AM
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My local LE is transitioning from Glock to M&P
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I never did care what the military or the LE carried . Most times what is issued is price driven . Some departments allow officer to pick from a list they buy it as department cost and after qualifying its there duty carry too . I carry a lw commander in 45acp or a m&p full size 40sw
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06-27-2022, 12:13 PM
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i wonder what the percentages are now, i'm seeing more and more footage of police bodycam using m&p 2.0s
i think percentages now is like 40% glock, 60% m&p
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From the figures quoted by the gun reps visiting our store, it’s 65% Glock, & 35% everything else. Our county LE uses Glock 22 for road patrol, & Glock 23 for detectives. GARY.
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06-27-2022, 12:20 PM
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Yeah, hard pass on M&P line. I don't always carry a gun but when I do, I'd rather it weren't wearing a tampon.
What's next - Depends at 200k rounds?
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06-27-2022, 04:02 PM
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Didn't see a mention of the Califorrnia Highway Patrol moving to the M&P in 40 caliber years ago. The security company I used to work for issued the M&P 40 for years. They changed to the FN 509 but mostly to change calibers. I never really liked the M&P but love my Shield 2 and Shield +.
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Sounds like I may work for the same security company! I also was not a fan of the M&P 40. And I also love my Shield!
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06-30-2022, 06:59 PM
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According to the Cabela's folks in Tualatin... the Oregon HP carries them. My son's sister-in-law with Detroit PD (detective) carries one.
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06-30-2022, 07:21 PM
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Bristol TN PD now carries the M&P 9, used to carry Glocks about 15 years ago... Troops are happy with them.
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It's all about cost!
Flint Michigan PD carries M&P 45's. Genesee County Michigan, in which Flint is in, carries Sigs. It's a tossup anymore between Glock, Sig and M&P's.
The US military is going to the Sig.
The 40 is disappearing fast, everyone in going back the 9 m/m. They can't get officers to qualify with the 40, as felt recoil is worse than a 45. Which is really nothing more than a lack of training!
The bottom line is cost! Who had the lowest bid a purchase time? As far as caliber it's also cost related, what is the cheapest caliber. And firearms training is the first thing PD's cut in a budget!
Plus, most new officers coming into the profession these days have no military background, did not grow up in a hunting or shooting family, so their first introduction to a gun is at the academy. Make it as easy on them as possible to qualify. If not the first time recycle them until they do.
It's hard recruiting police candidates these days, so make it easy for whatever you can get. What a shame, but then look at what they do to the good officers on the street these days!
Food for thought!
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06-30-2022, 09:42 PM
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The Boca Raton Florida Police carried the M&P last time I looked.
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Flint Michigan PD carries M&P 45's. Genesee County Michigan, in which Flint is in, carries Sigs. It's a tossup anymore between Glock, Sig and M&P's.
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CPD (Columbus Division of Police in Ohio) carry the M&P as well. I don't think SIG will make the inroads they once thought given the hiccups noted in the DOD reports. The army also bought some Glocks last year.
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The US military is going to the Sig.
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And Glock (to a lesser extent)
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The 40 is disappearing fast, everyone in going back the 9 m/m. They can't get officers to qualify with the 40, as felt recoil is worse than a 45. Which is really nothing more than a lack of training!
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It really isn't the recoil of the .40 S&W (technically the rearward motion of the 45 is greater), it's the muzzle flip being a higher velocity and higher pressure round. I still think .40 S&W is a great caliber. Personally I carry .380 ACP, 9mm, .40 S&W, and .357 SIG. I think they're all great rounds.
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It's hard recruiting police candidates these days, so make it easy for whatever you can get. What a shame, but then look at what they do to the good officers on the street these days!
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Has recruiting police ever been hard?
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Personally, I wish more police departments would carry the SIG P229 chambered in .357 SIG to bring down the cost of ammo (coupled with the opinion it is a better round). I don't believe for one moment everyone is welcoming the Glock 19 at the Secret Service. I think that was a deal to pacify Glock after Glock sent its protest to the GAO. We likely saw something similar when the Beretta M9 was adopted. That was highly controversial as well and ended up going before congress. Not long after special forces started using the P226, P228 and later the USSS adopted the P229. I don't think it was coincidence. I am not a fan of the P320, but I am a big P229 fan. There's a reason the USSS picked this weapon. In fact, they weren't even considering the 9mm until they discovered testing the Glock 31, 32 and 33 that the P229s handled the .357 SIG round better than Glock for its weakest shooters. Of course, M&P, Glock and SIG are all still great picks, as is 9mm, .40 S&W and .357 SIG.
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