I'm still on the fence with Frog Lube, I have two M&P pistols. A .40 compact that I have used Hornedy One Shot on exclusively, and my Shield, that I have used Frog lube on exclusively. Both show the same amount of wear on them. Both have about the same amount of rounds through them. One makes me smell like an old man with an arthritic hip and the other has no smell at all. Both guns have about the same amount of powder buildup after a couple hundred rounds though them. The gun using the Hornedy is much easier to clean, you don't have to use a heat gun and wait for it to cool to finish the job, so one less step for the One Shot. But the Frog Lube is an eviromentally friendy product. Both are pretty good products. But I will not side with either product at this time, due to the fact that enough testing has not been completed.

You don't have to heat the gun every time. Only on the first application.

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I am currently using it on a half dozen revolvers and pistols. So far it has worked exactly as advertised. Gun cleanup is much easier and the lack of oil/grease stains is an added bonus. I have noticed when I am doing a firearm for the first time, I start with a gun that I think is already clean using my normal products. Then I degrease the gun using "Gunscrubber". Warm the gun with a heat gun, and brush on the paste. I use the liquid on a patch and run it down the bore. Let it sit under a 100 watt light bulb for an hour. Interestingly, when I run a dry patch down the bore to remove any residue from application, I still get a dirty patch. Whatever this stuff is made of, it gets the bore cleaner than anything I have yet to discover.

If all you have is the paste, how do you clean the barrel? For regular maintenance, does the gun have to be heated up every time you use FL? After the initial alcohol strip, heat and application, how often does the gun have to be treated this way, if ever? There are many videos on the first application of FL, but I have not seen any on routine clean and lube.

The Crucible Arms channel on You Tube has two separate videos; one on the initial treatment and one the routine cleaning. Both are very well done and worth a watch.

Apparently Seal 1 and FrogLube are very similar, if not identical products (except for color and scent). Rand CLP is a new product that is liquid only, bonds with the metal, does not require heating and is biodegradable. I am running FL on a couple of my guns, but also picked up some Rand to compare. I am hearing very good things about Rand.

I use the Seal 1 but I think Frog lube said that 2 to 3 treatments and shooting cycles for full protection and full advantage of it as far as protection and cleaning ease.. But I'm not 100% sure.. George

Yes Seal 1 does have that Minty Ben-gay smell to it.. I'll have to pick up some of that Rand CLP.. I got guns for over 35 years that have done just fine in every way with good old Hoppe's bore solvent and Hoppe's gun oil. No rust wear is fine I'm Happy in every way. I'm I crazy to be trying all the new products against things i know work?George

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Why don't you use Frog lube on your sear? I use Seal 1 a very similar product and that's where I find it to shine. All types of lock works sear and hammer on guns with one. seem to really slick it up making the trigger noticeably better upon the first use.. It realy cleaned up my M&P FS .45's trigger to the point of liking it now. I use it on sear and trigger bar also top of firing pin plunger! George

Trigger sears don't need any lube. Mine is at 4.5lbs. That's perfect for me.

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Another great thing I have found out about FL, is it does NOT attract dust & dirt like gun grease & oil does

Been using Frog Lube for about 4 months....

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I say Frog Lube paste is the same thing as Wonder Lube/Bore Butter, one is green and cost a bunch $, one is yellow and cost less $. After seeing great results on my black powder guns I've used Wonder Lube on all my firearms for about 30 years, it works great but doesn't remove metal fouling. I also wouldn't trust it as a lube for handgun slides.

I would love the Frog Lube man to tell me I'm wrong but I don't think that would ever happen....

I don't know if I can link to another website forum (boomershooter), but the guy did a rust test with all the popular clp type products...FL included, FL was the only one that had no rust present on the sample areas after 2+ months outdoors. It was impressive to say the least and surprising how some of the other so called highly rated products failed, at least in the rust test.

Any chance you could enlighten us on the products that didn't do so well on the rust test? I think that would help out a lot of people here. Fo me rust is one of the most important thing I don't want on my guns as I don't think I shoot some of them enough to have wear issues. The ones I do shoot a lot get extra care to keep wears down.. George

This is still a work in progress. I like to have a small kit for each gun I have that I take with me any time I'm going to shoot.

I run a boresnake through it, twice. First time with some paste applied after the brush section, at the end/thick part. Second without re-applying new paste (but some is sure to linger)

I don't heat it every time....just the first two or three.

Tracy

This might have been the youtube video with the comparisons .... just happened to run across it again. Could be another one out there too but this guy does use the plates coated with different products for comparision.

Here is the link: CORROSION TEST
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