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Old 04-14-2013, 11:00 AM
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This gun arrived this week at my club, along with an STI Ranger II in 9mm. I had a couple hundred lead round nose reloads along for a quick function check. The STI ate them like candy, the S&W choked on them from the start. Wouldn't go into battery, even pulled a couple bullets clearing the jams. I had a few factory rounds along. It liked them. The fmj bullets are more tapered, the lead are blunter.

I had the same problem with my BHP in 2004. I have a load at 1.06 OAL, which is shorter than most listed loads for hollow points in my manuals. I use less powder than the minimum listed for the round nose at 1.16 and work up. I loaded some with Bullseye and they ran perfectly.

The Hornady Action Pistol hollow points ran well at the listed length, again a more tapered bullet.

I don't have enough time on the VTAC to decide how I like it. I have the fiber optic front and rear on my BHP so I'm used to the sight pattern. I prefer front fiber optic black rear and have seen some folks blacking out the rear sights. Maybe an option if i decide to keep the gun.

I have not owned or shot as many striker fired guns as other systems. I always feel that if it doesn't have a 3-4.5 lb 1911 trigger the trigger is "BAD". I'm trying to get over that. I have a Glock 34 in my desk at the office. It has a pretty nice mushy trigger as far as that goes.

The reason I bought the VTAC is that GB had it listed no reserve, asking $799 for buy now. I bid $700 and got it. Probably won't lose any $ if I decide to pass it along. I want to run it in low light situations to see how I like the night sights before any final decision.

Take down is easy, gun cleaned up real well. Looks like it's well made. Small back strap fits my small hands like a glove. Nice weight and size for belt carry, probably a bit big for easy concealed carry for me.
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Old 04-14-2013, 11:36 AM
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Regarding your reloads: the problem is not with the gun. This is a perfect illustration why OAL numbers are meaningless when you change to a different bullet.
The STIs are known to be throated longer than SAAMI specs, while the BHP and M&P are standard throats. If you have an odd bullet with no data for that exact bullet, then OAL must be set so the bullet does not eagage the rifling on YOUR gun. Otherwise you cause your problems.

It is not valid to guess at OAL using data for other bullets, and other guns.
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