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Old 07-18-2013, 10:51 PM
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Looking for opinions on the best laser sighting system for an M&P 40c (not Shield) with a manual safety. I'm hearing the green laser is best (power, visibility in day/night applications).

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Old 07-18-2013, 11:06 PM
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I bought a .40C with Crimson Trace Lasergrip and I really like it.

Set up was easy, the light is vivid enough to see in all but bright noon daylight and is unobtrusive enough so that I can holster the weapon without any snag problems. I've had it installed for about 6 months now and it's always worked perfectly. IIRC, the battery life is around 2-4 years, even if it's left in the 'on' mode
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Old 07-19-2013, 12:20 AM
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+1 on the crimson trace laser grip. Very well integrated into the grip. Automatically turns on when you grip the pistol.
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Old 07-21-2013, 10:30 PM
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From my recollection, the Crimson grip laser isn't compatible with the external manual safety switch that I have on my model. Otherwise, it would be a good choice. I think I have to look at something rail mounted.
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Old 07-22-2013, 08:24 PM
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Are you left handed? If not I would think you could take the safety thumb switch off on the side the crimson trace would sit on and be OK.
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Old 07-22-2013, 09:49 PM
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Actually, I am a leftie...but a good thought.
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Old 07-22-2013, 11:11 PM
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Actually, you can remove the thumb safety with no adverse affect on the gun. The thumb safety on the M&P is largely innocuous. The only thing it does is block the trigger bar from moving. If you have the gun in a holster that covers the trigger, the thumb safety adds no value.

If you just have to have a laser, the Crimson Trace is the only one on the market worth having.

Just for my own weird inquisitiveness, why do you want one?
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Old 07-28-2013, 12:51 PM
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the real question is why not have one??--------

Just for my own weird inquisitiveness, why do you want one?[/QUOTE]
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Old 07-28-2013, 03:52 PM
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the real question is why not have one??--------
  • Lasers create laziness. Shooters tend to become reliant on the laser and forget to aim.
  • They are almost useless in daylight.
  • They require batteries and if those die at in inopportune time, you're screwed if you haven't practiced with the sights.
  • They're expensive.
  • It's actually faster to get back on target with the sights rather than the laser.
  • They give your position away.

Further, most lasers require an extra motion to activate them. In a defensive situation the last thing you want is an extra motion. The only laser on the market that doesn't require an extra motion, that I know of, is the Crimson Trace. They activate with a normal grip, but cost double what other lasers cost.

Lasers are great for training. Especially with dry practice. They help show movement as you press the trigger. For defensive purposes they are almost completely useless on a handgun and a waste of money.
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I know this is an old thread but wanted to ask a few questions, please bear with me. Is this "STILL" the best option for 40c? I'm a lefty and alway carry in JBP holster, will this affect the lazer as it will be against the holster or is the laser reversible? I appreciate any insight anyone can provide me to these questions.
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Old 04-17-2018, 07:54 AM
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I have the CT green Laser Guard on my 40C, and 3 of our other SD/HD guns. We obviously like them, and they have been very reliable. So many great advantages to using them.

But I can't say if it will work in your holster. Probably not, unless it has extra room under the barrel.
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Old 04-17-2018, 08:02 AM
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Being a lefty I think will be a problem w/ the CTC grip laser. The laser itself sticks out maybe a little under 1/4 inch from the side of the pistol. That could make it difficult to fit into your holster.
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I know this is an old thread but wanted to ask a few questions, please bear with me. Is this "STILL" the best option for 40c? I'm a lefty and alway carry in JBP holster, will this affect the lazer as it will be against the holster or is the laser reversible? I appreciate any insight anyone can provide me to these questions.
As a lefty the laser grip will not work for you. The best answer is the Laser Guard. This one clips to the trigger guard. The drawback is you'll need a special holster.
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Have a CT on my M&P 40C and 9C and son in law on his 9C. Practice with them off and on. We are very pleased. Probably 250 - 300 rounds/year each.
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Old 04-17-2018, 10:47 PM
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  • Lasers create laziness. Shooters tend to become reliant on the laser and forget to aim.
  • They are almost useless in daylight.
  • They require batteries and if those die at in inopportune time, you're screwed if you haven't practiced with the sights.
  • They're expensive.
  • It's actually faster to get back on target with the sights rather than the laser.
  • They give your position away.

Further, most lasers require an extra motion to activate them. In a defensive situation the last thing you want is an extra motion. The only laser on the market that doesn't require an extra motion, that I know of, is the Crimson Trace. They activate with a normal grip, but cost double what other lasers cost.

Lasers are great for training. Especially with dry practice. They help show movement as you press the trigger. For defensive purposes they are almost completely useless on a handgun and a waste of money.
Yes. And morons should also not own firearms.
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  • Lasers create laziness. Shooters tend to become reliant on the laser and forget to aim.
  • They are almost useless in bright daylight.
  • They require batteries and if those die at in inopportune time, you're screwed if you haven't practiced with the sights.
  • They're expensive.
  • It's actually faster to get back on target with the sights rather than the laser.
  • They give your position away.

Further, most lasers require an extra motion to activate them. In a defensive situation the last thing you want is an extra motion. The only laser on the market that doesn't require an extra motion, that I know of, is the Crimson Trace. They activate with a normal grip, but cost double what other lasers cost.

Lasers are great for training. Especially with dry practice. They help show movement as you press the trigger. For defensive purposes they are almost completely useless on a handgun and a waste of money.
Ah yes, the "Real Men don't use Lasers" argument again. . .

* Lasers ARE aiming -- you are capable of aimed fire from the moment the gun clears the holster and rotates, without the need or time required to move the pistol to eye level.
* The iron sights are still there in daylight.
* Yes, iron sight competency is still required, but the laser does nothing to inhibit that.
* Your pistol and ammo are expensive too.
* With proper grip and training you pistol returns to target quite naturally, with or without the laser.
* It is very easy to modulate your grip so that the laser is off until you wish it to be on. A red laser blipped off the floor will allow you to see doorways and stairs in total darkness without loss of your night vision -- our pupils do not contract on red light, thus its use in aircraft cockpits.
* It has been demonstrated in competition that a man with a laser can easily outshoot a man with a flashlight in total darkness -- I have done it personally.

Any ordinary person can easily harass the dog or cat with a garden hose in the back yard instinctively, with no training. If you are properly instructed, the use of a laser is no more difficult.
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Crimson Trace will supply batteries for life if you own one,good company.
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When your eyes start to lose the ability to focus on more than one thing at a time, lasers and red dots are what's left.
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When your eyes start to lose the ability to focus on more than one thing at a time, lasers and red dots are what's left.
Yep, sucks, but it's true. The days of being able to focus on both the sight and the target at the same time are, unfortunately, long gone. RDS or laser is a required part of my carry and HD guns. And they work awesome. Puts the fun back in range shooting, too.
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When your eyes start to lose the ability to focus on more than one thing at a time, lasers and red dots are what's left.
Nobody can focus on more than one thing at a time. It's simply impossible. That's why you should be focusing on the front sight.

It's when you can't focus on the front sight that you may need a laser.
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