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Old 01-11-2017, 02:57 PM
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Any reviews of the Apex fully machined sear in the M&P 9c? It seems that the pull is reduced in the Shield but I don't see much about the break. I have a fairly new Compact 9 that I'm considering installing the Apex standard sear in. However, I'm happy with the crisp break and I don't want to lose that. So, could someone please review any changes in the creep, break and reset in the M&P 9c or 9fs?

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I didn't see any feedback on the Apex standard sear but I took the chance and bought one and installed it in my M&P 9c. I never had any grittiness in my trigger and it already had a crisp break and a crisp reset. After installing the Apex sear, the creep is a little farther and still smooth. The crisp break and crisp reset are there. I didn't measure the difference in pull but it feels very consistent with the Apex video on thier website in which it went from slightly over 5 lbs to slightly over 4 lbs. This was my subjective measurement while dry firing. My target range is outdoors and it is rainy and muddy right now, so I have to wait for more follow-up from my live firing experience. So far, so good...

If you are considering buying a new sear, be sure you have a 1/8" coil pin punch and a roll of duct tape to place under your pistol while you pound the daylights out of your punch. That coil pin is very hard to get out and back in the first time.

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Old 01-11-2017, 06:01 PM
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I'm curious if the Apex sear would be any improvement in my PC Shield?

I'm going to buy a red Apex trigger, because I HATE the hinged S&W trigger. I figured I'd give the sear a try, along with a Glock trigger spring, and see how it works out.

The PC has a crisp break, but it seems to be mighty hard. I don't have a gauge, but I'd probably guess about 6.5 from experience.

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Old 01-11-2017, 10:10 PM
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I'm curious if the Apex sear would be any improvement in my PC Shield? Thanks!
Yes it will. I installed it before buying the whole kit. IMHO it made a significant difference in the way the trigger felt and functioned. I didn't buy the kit after this.
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Old 01-11-2017, 10:12 PM
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Yes it will. I installed it before buying the whole kit. IMHO it made a significant difference in the way the trigger felt and functioned. I didn't buy the kit after this.
Did you do anything else, or just the sear?

I've got an old Glock spring lying around, so that'll go in when replacing that horrid, hinged trigger.

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Old 01-21-2017, 12:08 AM
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I'm curious if the Apex sear would be any improvement in my PC Shield?

I'm going to buy a red Apex trigger, because I HATE the hinged S&W trigger. I figured I'd give the sear a try, along with a Glock trigger spring, and see how it works out.

The PC has a crisp break, but it seems to be mighty hard. I don't have a gauge, but I'd probably guess about 6.5 from experience.

Thanks!
Try replacing only the sear at first. I don't think you will need a Glock trigger spring.
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Old 01-21-2017, 07:51 AM
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Try replacing only the sear at first. I don't think you will need a Glock trigger spring.
One would assume the PC sear would be better than an aftermarket sear. But, since "PC" is almost just a gimmick now, I guess aftermarket may actually be better...

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After installing the Apex kit and aluminum trigger, the Lyman gauge shows ~6#, changing back to the factory trigger spring now 4.3#. My Shield 9mm is a totally different shooter now and my most accurate sub compact.

I have the Apex FSS kit with polymer trigger in my 9C and trigger pull is 4#. I enjoy shooting my 9C more with the new trigger & sear.

As soon as they are available, I will buy a trigger kit for my Shield 45.
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