Question is anyway aware of whether or not using the "alternate method" of breaking down the pistol (not pushing the yellow lever down, simply pulling the trigger glock style) has any negative effects on the gun? I had to listen to a know it all tell me it was bad for the gun. I didn't and don't believe it but still want to know if anyone knows for certain either way?


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Not bad for the gun. Just MAKE SURE the chamber is empty before you pull that trigger.

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Most definitely! Thanks for the input!


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I was in the room when a guy with a Glock had an ND while trying to field strip his gun. Therefore, I will always use the sear disconnect lever. Not trying to sway anyone, just relating my story.

The only way you could hurt an M&P by pulling the trigger to remove the slide would be if you let the slide hit the floor. What was your antagonist's reasoning on how the gun would be hurt?

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I was almost shot by my brother from a foot away when he tried stripping this way... needless to say I'm glad I trained myself to never stand in front of a firearm... or I wouldn't be typing this right now.

#1!!!!! Always assume a firearm is loaded even if you checked it 10X.. Never let the front of the barrel of the gun pass by anything you don't want to shoot.. Always point the gun not only in a safe direction but in a direction that if the gun was to go off no harm would be caused by the bullet something that would not only slow the bullet down but stop the bullet.. Say a Plush chair with pillows on it.. Know where that bullet will end up if there is a discharge of the gun.. George
Sorry a little off topic here.. I use the a paperclip but as the othersposter have said almost anything will Work,much safer to take down the pistol with the use of the sear disconnect lever..

It won't hurt the gun at all but I can't imagine why you would want to do it that way. Do you really want to override one of the safety features of the gun to save a few seconds? One of the things I dislike about my Glocks is that you have to dry fire them to remove the slide. I also have a Taurus PT709 that's designed that way. I also don't like the little take down tabs. I much prefer a takedown lever and I don't mind the extra step of removing the frame tool and flipping down the sear disconnect lever. As many times as I've field stripped a Glock I still get the willies every time I dry fire one. I have dropped the magazine, locked the slide back and done a visual check of the chamber to be sure it's clear and still there is this fear in the back of my mind that I might've forgot something. Call it paranoia or OCD or whatever but kudos to Smith and Wesson for building that extra little measure of safety into the M&P.

If I may offer a suggestion, don't use the frame tool. I've read of many people whose tool loosened in the frame from repeated use, and I had one M&P myself that started loosening up a bit just from me changing the back strap several times. When I buy an M&P, I change the back strap to the small insert, which is the best fit for me, and then leave it alone. I use a screw driver, pen, or even (gasp) a Glock tool to push down the sear disconnect lever. You could use a small dowel rod, or just about anything that will fit...my stubby fingers are too fat to do the job without a tool of some kind.

I'm actually referencing a Shield so I don't have a frame tool anyway.


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Only if the ricochet from the negligent discharge hits the gun....

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I can just get my pinky in there to use the lever. But have done the trigger method too.

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I use a wooden shish kabob stick. I keep one in my gun cleaning kit (for those really thin places) and use that to push down the lever. I have used the trigger method, but the shish kabob stick works great and the wood won't scratch your gun.

Then it probably won't loosen up with use.

As for me, I always use the disconnect lever. Its no more difficult to take it down this way.
A guy cant be too careful.

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Its no different than dry firing the gun on an empty chamber. I wouldnt be worried about it at all. I just let the know it alls know it all and laugh about all of their "knowledge" to myself.

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A screwdriver in your cleaning kit is very convenient.