I personally have no use for a .380, but to each his own.

Just Announced: New Smith & Wesson M&P Bodyguard 380 Pistol

What is the advantage to this one over the old one with the laser?

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Dustin

At first glance, that appears to be the main difference. Apparently some Leos are forbidden using lasers on their weapons and can't use the bodyguard as a backup. Now they can. I'm sure more info will be forthcoming.

I got used to how the BG looked before, looks like something is missing on this new one... And is S&W going to start just calling all of their black guns M&P now? They added it to this, and they even have it stamped into the R8 revolvers...

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Dustin

Bottom line, it's cheaper than the laser model. The truth is, you really don't need the laser. The intended use for this gun is point and shoot in close quarters.. it's not a range gun, a target gun, it's a 380 cal self defense gun..

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Jack C

Less money. Now it can compete price wise with the LCP. Many 1st timers are impressed with the laser, but when I explain to them that when Homie de Clown is trying to rob them from a distance of 2 feet, is a laser really necessary. Their eyes open wide, & when they realize it's not needed, they buy the LCP. I guess S&W realized they were losing lots of sales, so they wised up. GARY

The old BG with a snap cap in the chamber and the laser on makes for really good dry fire practice.

They weren't all that pricey at most dealer's anyways.

The new version comes with 2 mags, no laser, "M&P" stamped on the slide, and the wavy grip lines on the rear of the slide.

Looks like they should take the same magazine, anybody know for sure?

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686/M&P9 Pro/M&P15X/M&P15-22

Smith has been making M&P's since forever...or so it seems. The model 10 revolver was the model 1 .38 special M&P (circa 1899) before it was renamed the model 10 in the late 50's.

S&W's version of the Derringer, lol. I'm not a big fan of 9mm, either. I still wouldn't want to be shot by one, though.

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I carry a Gen 1 almost daily. I'm gonna buy one just to have one. Hope it fits my Fobus.

I like it, might get one.

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Chewy

I passed up the older version of the Bodyguard because I didn't like the laser on it. Had this one been available a year ago, I would have bought it instead of the LCP.

I carried my BG all day today and it is like it isn't there and as stated it is for close self defense...every tool has it's purpose...to the nay sayers...just don't buy one

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one day at a time

$40 less, extra magazine.

It is a $299 gun.

The first handgun I purchased was a BG380. I love that thing and that's how my M&P addiction started.

I am not a big fan of lasers and the idea of an integrated laser just seemed like a problem waiting to happen. I looked at it like the TV's that have a DVD player built in. Yeah, it seems like a god idea until the DVD player breaks and now you have a bulkier TV with a broken DVD player you can't use. I have been eyeing the Bodyguard and now that it is cheaper and you get a second magazine (I always think it is BS not to give 2 mags anyway) I am obsessing even more. Don't know that the M&P designation is a seller but it does not hurt. Should be a good seller. Hopefully one will find its way into my collection soon.

Same here. Now what to do? Keep obsessing for the M&P Bodyguard to compliment my M&P Shield and 9c; buy one and sell my LCP; forgetaboutit and keep the LCP; buy the M&P Bodyguard & keep the LCP? Have another ice fishing fiasco and lose all to Lake Erie and start over again?

Another reason I bought the LCP was because of the stories I read on this forum about feeding and/or ejection issues with the Bodyguard when it first came out. Have those issues been resolved or were they non-issues? I haven't been following the Bodyguard ever since I bought the LCP.

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Inconsistently consistent

The BG is an excellent gun, no issues to speak of today, and the issues from the beginning were few and far between... If you want a BG, then get it and keep the LCP...

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Jack C

I would like to see a comparison between the new Glock 42 and the new M&P 380...

You can start here,
Glock 42 versus P380, P238 and Bodyguard (8 PHOTOS)

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Jack C

By the looks of the pics, the Glock is in a different class. Too big for the pocket. I think most of us buying a BG are looking for pocket carry or the lightest possible CC .. if I am carrying outside my pocket, I want a minimum 9mm, but preferably a 40 or 45acp.. like my Shield or my 3" Pro 1911..

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Jack C

I think that's what they are banking on. Everyone wants to grab a piece of the pie that Ruger has been enjoying.

.380 auto has always been a LEO-only thing with Glock, but now they're even pushing the single-stack G42.

I'm a fan. It's a nice addition

2 mags, no laser, cheaper, second strike capability and M&P serrations. I can't tell you how many people said they would buy one if it didn't have a laser, so now it appeases to everyone. If I honestly were to buy one again, I'd go for the this newer version.

How are the BG triggers? I've been looking at pocket .380s, and for me the Kahr CW380 has been the one to beat.

DAO like the BG380. I'm not sure if the CW380 has the same trigger as my CM9, but if it is, the BG380 trigger is not as light. I know the CW380 is pretty darn small so I can't suggest a M&P Bodyguard as a replacement if it works for you.

I read somewhere that the glock .380 has a 20lb trigger pull. I don't think it will compete with the bodyguard. My bodyguard is in my pocket when I leave the house. I don't have to worry about iwb holsters and printing etc. I gave my shield 9mm to my son. Couldn't find a comfortable way to carry it. Spent about 200 bucks on holsters and gave up.

I don't believe the trigger on this class of gun comes into play at all. None of the 380 series triggers are exactly target shooting quality. Lets face it guys, this gun is a close quarter, stick in your belly point and shoot gun. If you're looking for a target gun buy a revolver.. comparing the trigger to other manufacturers similar class gun really makes little to no difference about it's actual function and accuracy.

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Jack C

I carry in these pants, bellows front pockets, no printing and very quick draw.

Cabela's Legendary 7-Pocket Hiker Pants : Cabela's

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It looks like the "old" BG380 to me with M&P roll markings, but without the Insight Laser. If so, it will be a basic, but good, CQB pocket pistol.


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I owned an early BG380 with the laser. I bought if for my wife and as a back up. The laser never worked very well. It saw a couple trips back for repairs. When I felt it was working consistently, I traded it.

I liked the idea of the laser, but not the real world operation/reliability of it (especially for my wife). I might revisit the new BG380. I like the addition of the 2nd strike feature. The basic gen 1 gun was a pretty good pocket piece and the new version should be the same.

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paws for friendship

This might be the perfect in-pocket gun I'm looking for. Anyone know when it will be in stores?

I won't even consider a 380, so I will likely never know.

Well I guess its time to sell my Taurus 738 TCP.

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Hock

Strongly disagree. I'm not saying that a bellygun has to have a target quality trigger, but I've seen some that darn near needed two fingers on the trigger to pull. When a trigger is so heavy that you're throwing shots, it's too heavy.

Thanks - I don't have a Kahr right now, but the BG is a tempting alternative to it and to the LCP. I'll have to seek one out and see how it feels.

I'm talking about the BG380 not some imaginary 2 finger trigger gun... not to mention, how far do you think your going to throw a round at 7 ft...

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Jack C

And I was asking how the trigger is in the BG. What's your point again?

I've seen people throw shots off a B27 at ten feet due to stress and a heavy trigger.

I have a first generation BG380 and I love the ergonomics of this pocket gun. I sure hope S&W changes away from the MIM firing pin on the new one. The firing pin broke in mine so I don't trust it.


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I passed on the BG380 because of the laser and price. Had it been free or less expensive, then I would have bought it instead of the LCP. I want to pocket carry and carry with a Technaclip (sp?), but I need a manual safety for that.
Funny thing is, now I've got the new M&P BG on order. I will lose more selling my LCP then had I just bought the S&W BG. Live and learn I guess.

need a new teacher and more practice...

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Jack C

I dont understand why they didn't make it a striker fire like the rest of the M&P line. I just don't care for the double action only, so ill pass on this one.

They tried to make the M&P22 striker fired but couldn't get the reliability. I read that somewhere, I don't work for S&W. I'm guessing the BG was probably the same.
I would like to have a small, medium, large, and 22 version with all the same trigger. I don't think that exists.
I'm not buying the I can't hit a target at 10 feet with a double action trigger, but I have long fingers. Maybe the people that have so much issue with triggers, and reset have small hands. I'm not saying I can hit the center and keep a 1" group with a pocket pistol, but I can hit the target.

The other day, I went to the indoor range with some friends for some stress relief. With my M&P9c and my Shield9, I can usually keep all my shots within a quarter or better at seven yards. I tried my friends Sig 250 with the DAO trigger and it was like shooting a rusty revolver. Group sizes averaged 2-3 inches. Same for my friends. He's got it up for sale now.

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I just pulled my BG out of the safe for the day... worked the trigger for a bit... every time I pull that trigger it feels better. I've always thought it was a decent trigger for it's class of gun. But every now and then, I read some posts and have to reassess it. Trigger pull is smooth and firm and the break is clean and crisp for me... all with one finger..

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Jack C

That's all I was trying to find out - how the BG trigger is. Thanks!

Show off, I always use multiple fingers to pull the trigger.

JK, I also have never had an issue wit the BG trigger.


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Would you stake your life and that of your loved ones on a .380 cartridge? Yeah, me neither

It's not my choice... but there is a time and place for every gun I own... my preference is minimum my 40 Shield, but if I could carry one of my 1911sc's or M&P45.... that is the ticket...

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Jack C