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Old 02-23-2014, 06:33 PM
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Hey all, long time lurker on this forum, I've owned a Bodyguard for the last 3 years but just upgraded to a Shield the other day. I came up with an accessory for my shield that I am going to prototype for myself. I am a mechanical designer by day and have CAD, 3D printing, CNC machining, etc. capabilities through work and was curious if anyone else shared interest in this accessory I've come up with. Below is a cheesy graphic I created to explain my idea, perhaps if enough people are interested I'll crank out a handful of them to sell?

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Seems like a good concept, but will be hard to find holsters that would work around that added even if dont have a light on
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No. I wouldn't want to be drilling holes in my frame. I have a Fs9 ,9c, and shield 9. I have a light to mount on my 9c for home protection and take the light off when I carry it. Not that I wouldn't use my shield for self defense if I had to its more of a BUG for me I keep in my back pack. The $50 price tag also turns me away even if I wanted to use this product. Oh yeah ,Welcome to the forum.

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This is just a personal opinion, but if you can conceal a shield with a weapon mounted light, then you can probably conceal a M&P compact with a weapon mounted light. Also considering how light the shield is, I would imagine mounting a weapon light to it would throw off "the balance" and make it feel not as natural. Again, just my 2 cents
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This is just a personal opinion, but if you can conceal a shield with a weapon mounted light, then you can probably conceal a M&P compact with a weapon mounted light. Also considering how light the shield is, I would imagine mounting a weapon light to it would throw off "the balance" and make it feel not as natural. Again, just my 2 cents
The holsters I use and like very much do not allow me to carry with a light attached, I don't need the light during the day.
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There are add-on rails for a lot of the older designed guns. This is a brand new design. IMHO, If S&W had thought a weapon light was appropriate, they would have built it that way.

Personally, I consider the Shield to be a BUG, and a s AR-Getsome said, no weapon light on a BUG.
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Nice concept.

However, in my opinion, the above folks express my concerns. The light would likely really throw off the weight balance, as well.
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And let's not forget that quite a few shields have been going back for warranty work lately. If you drill holes in your frame S&W will most likely void your warrant.
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No. I wouldn't want to be drilling holes in my frame.
I agree 100%. No way would I drill holes. I would purchase another gun that was set-up for whatever accessory I wanted to add before I drilled holes in any part of my gun.
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Doesn't seem to make sense (to me) for a concealed carry gun.
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I like the concept, but I like to remove the light when I am at the range so I don't get residue all over the lens of the light. Doesn't look like you can easily remove it. Your thoughts?
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I like the concept, but I like to remove the light when I am at the range so I don't get residue all over the lens of the light. Doesn't look like you can easily remove it. Your thoughts?
The rail can't easily be removed (without disassembling the firearm), but the flashlight can. The flashlight is connected via rails. All you need is a screwdriver or sometimes even a quarter will do the trick to remove it.
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I would not add a light to my Shield.

YES you need a light regardless of daylight hours or not but not on the Shield.
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My old PF-9 had a rail and it was a nice option, but I really don't miss it on my Shield.

I'm sure there are some that would buy one, but since I pocket carry the Shield, I'm not one of them.
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Old 02-24-2014, 12:36 PM
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If I didn't have to drill into my frame, Id be all over it. Even though this is a EDC for most of us. I'd like to have whatever I can get around me whenever I need it. rather it be a shotgun, shield, or a nice 1911 .45. I would keep the flashlight on it when its not being carried and take it off when I was.
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I would not add a light to my Shield as I bought it for maximum conceal ability. I think a light detracts from being concealable.

I have a 9C with a light for my night-stand gun, and it does have a light. During any middle of the night encounter the light will do three things for me;

Allow me to see in the dark to determine friend or foe.
Allow me to get a better sight picture.
Allow me to temporarily blind the intruder (maybe).

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I have no use for a accessory light on a concealed firearm.
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Defeats the purpose of owning a Shield.
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It's an idea. Most gun savvy owners that are really familiar with guns wouldn't install it for several reasons as mentioned above. But believe, me for every 10 that don't want it, there likely is another 10 that will, provided you don't price yourself out of the market for it. Any price over $30. I think is too much.
Woman especially that only use this 1 gun either in their purse or in the home. So sure someone will want it.
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Old 02-24-2014, 07:51 PM
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I think the concept is intriguing. Solving the issue of size and the mechanical mounting would be excellent. For example, using an ultra low profile LED lamp. There are plenty of 3V LED modules with high brightness. You do not need much with the shield. A bit of direction and quite bright can do the trick. Using button cell batteries might work as longevity of the beam is not too critical in my opinion. The mounting, if it did not require drilling, would be the bomb. I can't remember how that bottom of the frame is like but a bit more thinking can get it there. Maybe a magnetic mount by mounting a low profile rare earth magnet inside? I don't know, just thinking out loud :-)
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Aside from the reasons already mentioned, It does not work aesthetically. The light hangs way too low and looks like a cheap Tapco add on. Neat idea though. I think if I were to entertain the thought of adding anything to a shield it would have to be a blended unit that attaches to the front of the trigger guard and dust cover, giving the appearance that it is part of the weapon. I believe Veridian (sp) makes something like that, but I could be wrong.
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Im worried that S&W is going to send you a letter to stop using their logo on your advertising.......
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Nope... not really looking to mall ninja my self defense carry weapon with something I will never use. Now I have a .40 compact in the nightstand with night sights and a light mounted on it.

Different scenario, different weapon.
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Old 02-25-2014, 07:06 PM
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Hey all, thanks for the feedback. ~1000 views and 22 detailed replies in ~48 hours is an awesome amount of free exposure in the product design world I'll pursue this concept just for myself at this time, I've since come up with 2 more accessory concepts, I'll mock them up in the same format and see if they gain better interest in the coming days.
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Old 02-25-2014, 07:18 PM
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If you haven't already don't forget to consider the recoil forces on the two screws and how that will affect the area of the frame where the holes are.
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If you haven't already don't forget to consider the recoil forces on the two screws and how that will affect the area of the frame where the holes are.
Thanks for the tip, someone else mentioned that on another forum though not nearly as nicely as you phrased it In my mind I can't envision how the plastics would be stressed up there during recoil, the vertical walls in that area are only .060" thick! Surely they would crack upon the first shot if recoil made its way to the front?
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Adding weight to my carry weapon. Yeah isnt that what we all want to do.

If im going to add weight. I'll just carry my 1911 around with me most of the time.
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While I don't know about the Shield, I have seen slow motion film of polymer framed pistols flexing during recoil. I really don't know how that area is affected but I believe that Glock 22 with rail mounted lights experienced reliability issues so -something attached- in that area on the frame will affect the recoil cycle to an extent.
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I have no interest in the rail,but it appears you have the knowledge and equipment to come up with a plug for that annoying hole in the bottom of the grip.I contacted Pearce about one like they make for Glocks,but got no response.I will definitely buy one if you or someone make one.
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Thanks for the tip, someone else mentioned that on another forum though not nearly as nicely as you phrased it In my mind I can't envision how the plastics would be stressed up there during recoil, the vertical walls in that area are only .060" thick! Surely they would crack upon the first shot if recoil made its way to the front?
Recoil affects the whole gun. So, putting a mass on the front like that will add tremendous stress to the front of the frame; an area not designed to take any of it.

Will it work? Maybe.

To answer your original question, no. I would not want that for a Shield.
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