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Old 02-22-2014, 11:42 PM
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By way of framing my comments I will state that I have a pretty fair understanding of how to cut a chamber in all types of common firearms. In another life I made my living as a machinist and gunsmith.

I have been following the various 'kaboom' threads with some interest and so I decided to take a closer look at the chamber in my 9mm Shield. I was very surprised by what I found. Suffice it to say that the quality of S&W hiring, training, quality control, and management is very suspect in my mind.

It's as though a gorilla with a Dremil was turned loose at S&W and managed to run the grinder up the ramp, over the edge of the chamber an right on into the chamber. The grind is deep enough that I can put the tail of my veneer caliper on it and push against it to get an accurate measurement. It happens to extend into the chamber over 1/8".

I'm also attaching a photo of a cartridge seated in the chamber showing the unsupported portion of the case. I don't have the tools to measure it but it certainly looks excessive to me. Notice the shadowed, dark area that continues on into the chamber.

Next are two photos of my 9c chamber. Much less damage to the chamber here but whoever throated it ran the tool over the chamber edge and slightly into the chamber. It's a passable job but I expect more from S&W. That edge should never be rolled over. All that should be done is to *polish* it. Then the case head support would be excellent as would feeding. I guess 'caveat emptor' applies as much today as it ever has.
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Old 02-22-2014, 11:50 PM
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That's just some really nasty work. I fully agree with you on this. It looks worse than a Glock's 40 chamber with the unsupported chamber. I'd love to see a spent casing. Likely has the Glock smiley face on it in the bottom area. I'd send it back and hope for a replacement before it pops the gun.
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Old 02-23-2014, 12:42 AM
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does anyone know what the chamber dim. is? it can be measured w/ telescoptic gages. now i'll check mine after i research the dim.
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Thank you for your thoughts on this subject mtnwinds.
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OP, what was the date of manufacture of your Shield 9mm?
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Please refer to post 38 in this thread
I would agree that the quality seems to be the same across thses 9mm barrels

M&P Shield 9 going back to S&W. Again
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OP, what was the date of manufacture of your Shield 9mm?
January, 2013
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That gun was part of the recall/saefty alert

https://secure05.lwcdirect.com/front...&campaignID=63
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That gun was part of the recall/saefty alert

https://secure05.lwcdirect.com/front...&campaignID=63
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sorry. click n safety alert on the left
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It may indeed have the trigger problem, but that has no connection to the poorly machined barrel, except QC is dropping the ball in several areas.
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I'm aware of the trigger recall. I thought perhaps you were referring to a recall related to the chamber issue.

A recall on a firearm doesn't diminish my respect for the company. On the contrary, it let's me know they are willing to step up and do the right thing, regardless of their motivation.

Producing junk and calling it good to go is an altogether different matter.
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My apologize on the recall info
I was only referring to the trigger aspect
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