Again, another Shield 40 blow up... R.I.P.

ChrisfromCT

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I hate to add this one to the list, but it seems my firearm now joins the group of people who have had an blow-up with their Shield 40. I am kind of new here, I just decided to write it up in the forum because as of right now smith and wesson said the best they could do for me is have me purchase a replacement for around 300 dollars after a month and a half of waiting and "testing".

Before I get into the background, a couple modifications to mention: I had new sights on it and also installed the complete apex tactical trigger kit a few months prior to this all happening.

Ok so here is the story (which is what was attached with the firearm when I sent it in):

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(Beginning of May) I am at the range everything is going smooth and about the 15th round in, BOOM. There was a huge internal explosion so big it kicked out the magazine, it was something I have never seen or felt before. I felt like the gun just exploded into pieces in my hands. It was like all the energy came out of the back of the barrel into the gun and through the sides, luckily not cracking the frame (at least this is what I thought at the time). I wait a bit to make sure nothing else would go wrong I switch the safety on, removed the magazine, removed the newly cycled bullet from the chamber and place the gun on the table. I was in shock and so was everyone around me. (I tried to track down the casing that was ejected when it happened but but no luck. It was a needle in a haystack with all the spent brass on the floor of the indoor range)

I inspected my hands - there is black char where all of the gun seams were touching my hands, my thumb is stinging from something hitting it through the slide lock. I was finished for the day and that was the last time I shot it of course. Luckily no one was injured.

I went home and started doing research. I find out that there are Shields that have exploded in hands and the sides were blown off of the gun and cracked. I found stories of barrel issues in shield 40s, magazines are releasing etc. After inspecting the gun thoroughly, I decided to send the gun in and have it inspected and tested at the manufacturer just in case.

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After waiting a month and a half, spending hours on hold for some sort of update, I finally get a letter in the mail about a week ago telling me that says its not Smiths fault and that I can purchase a discounted new shield for $334. They said that "they had determined that the damage to this weapon was not the result of a defect in materials or the workmanship of the weapon".

(Fast forward to today) I asked the customer service rep what exactly was the issue with the firearm and he said that their was a crack in the frame near the trigger. I know for a fact that when I sent that firearm into them that there was no visible damage whatsoever, but I guess I was wrong (I will post some pictures when it arrives back home). How anyone would miss a cracked frame is beyond me but whatever.

Some of the remaining white box (target 165g) rounds are still available, and after speaking with someone at Winchester, they said they would like to inspect the gun along with the remaining bullets. She said she needed the casing from the incident but like I said before it was nowhere to be found. They seemed to be in shock that smith and wesson would deny responsibility but they were very nice and extremely helpful... not to mention I wasn't put on hold at all. Maybe Winchester can shed some light on the issue a bit more when I send it to them.

Anyways, I just wanted to share my experience with the forum and see what you all thought. I will keep checking in with you all and update you as the process goes on.

For now, take care.

Chris
 
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I hate to add this one to the list, but it seems my firearm now joins the group of people who have had an blow-up with their Shield 40.
Chris

I know absolutely nothing about the Shield and even less about .40 caliber pistols in general.

I will say that I'm sure we are all glad you were not injured.

One of the indoor ranges that I use rents out Shields for people learning to shoot or those that want to see how they like the Shield, itself. A lot of comments I hear are along the lines of, "Can't put my finger on it, but I just don't like this gun."

I'll add that I'm not real sure I'd buy another Shield. I know there are thousands of them out there that function perfectly, but hey...why take a chance? Once bitten, twice shy.
 
Hi Chris, welcome to the forum!

There was a huge internal explosion so big it kicked out the magazine... I wait a bit to make sure nothing else would go wrong I switch the safety on, removed the magazine...
These two parts sound confusing. Did the explosion eject the mag or did you remove it?

Did you shoot any hand-loaded ammo in it? Did you shoot anything besides Winchester white box?

Glad you were not injured. I hope S&W or Winchester can make it right for you.
 
(Fast forward to today) I asked the customer service rep what exactly was the issue with the firearm and he said that their was a crack in the frame near the trigger. I know for a fact that when I sent that firearm into them that there was no visible damage whatsoever, but I guess I was wrong (I will post some pictures when it arrives back home). How anyone would miss a cracked frame is beyond me but whatever.
Chris

Anything like post ten in this thread?

http://smith-wessonforum.com/smith-wesson-m-p-pistols/372544-m-p-shield-40-blow-up.html




 
I am at the range everything is going smooth and about the 15th round in, BOOM. There was a huge internal explosion so big it kicked out the magazine, it was something I have never seen or felt before. I felt like the gun just exploded into pieces in my hands. It was like all the energy came out of the back of the barrel into the gun and through the sides, luckily not cracking the frame (at least this is what I thought at the time). I wait a bit to make sure nothing else would go wrong I switch the safety on, removed the magazine, removed the newly cycled bullet from the chamber and place the gun on the table.

I'm with Ransom, there are some noteworthy conflicts in your statement. If the magazine was "kicked out" how come you had to remove the magazine. I'm also wondering about that round in the chamber, because prior malfunctions of this nature have left most of the exploded case in the chamber. In addition if the magazine was "kicked out" there wouldn't be a fresh cartridge in the feed path for the slide to pick up. These conflicts in your story are possibly the reason why S&W declined to cover this under the warranty.

Note, I'm not saying you didn't experience some type of malfunction just that the sequence of events you have presented don't add up. Unfortunately when something like this does happen the resulting adreneline dump into the system usually results in the memory of the event being totally corrupted. Most likely you just don't remember clearly what you did exactly and are filling in the blanks to some extent.
 
It seems as though anytime there is a kaboom with shield 40's the outcome on S&W's end is the same, which is a denial of any fault. I would venture to say this is their MO knowing that most people aren't going to persue the situation any further. Not until someone gets hurt and they go the full nine yards to prove there was a defect, even then they would probably never admit fault, just settle out of court.
 
Thanks, yea I am glad no one was hurt

I'm with Ransom, there are some noteworthy conflicts in your statement. If the magazine was "kicked out" how come you had to remove the magazine. I'm also wondering about that round in the chamber, because prior malfunctions of this nature have left most of the exploded case in the chamber. In addition if the magazine was "kicked out" there wouldn't be a fresh cartridge in the feed path for the slide to pick up. These conflicts in your story are possibly the reason why S&W declined to cover this under the warranty.

I am a right hand shooter -my left hand was underneath the grip of the gun almost supporting the magazine, so the kick out occurred into my hand but not onto the floor. Exploded case was not in the chamber, a new round was. My guess would be that my hand was supporting the magazine enough to still able to cycle a round into the chamber?
 
Thanks, yea I am glad no one was hurt

I am a right hand shooter -my left hand was underneath the grip of the gun almost supporting the magazine, so the kick out occurred into my hand but not onto the floor. Exploded case was not in the chamber, a new round was. My guess would be that my hand was supporting the magazine enough to still able to cycle a round into the chamber?

I call BS, your story simply isn't adding up.
 
I call BS, your story simply isn't adding up.

Story not adding up is one thing. BS is another, much different.

How about assuming that the OP is reporting events as he remembered them? We can, most of us, see that there is a discrepancy between mag being blown out and pistol successfully cycling. Perhaps the more knowledgeable among us in the physical phenomena of phirearms and the mental phenomena surrounding memory can help resolve this without namecalling. I see that an effort has already been made in that direction, the best perhaps by scooter123.
 
Have him post the letter s&w sent him. This will confirm his story. I just don't see why s&w is only offering pistols at a discount instead of replacing the firearm. Just sounds fishy!
 
Hmmm. I haven't noticed reports of larger M&P pistols "kabooming". I guess only Shield .40 users use "defective" ammo. It's "reassuring" that in every case, S&W has determined that it's not their fault.

I live all of 25 miles from Winchester's facility in East Alton, IL. WWB is always available around here, and I can't begin to tell you how many WWB rounds I have put through my FS and Compact 40. The only problem I have had was one (1) round that didn't fire. IIRC one other person who had a Shield 40 blow up was also using WWB. I am beginning to seriously doubt that each person who had a Shield blow up was the unlucky person who picked "X" brand of "defective" ammo.

To the OP, I'm glad you weren't injured. It sounds like you made it out better than others.

I would love to know how many Shield 40's have had catastrophic failures that we don't know about.
 
Has anyone pursued the "defective ammo" angle? The 40 S&W works at a high enough pressure that rounds having bullets being set back due to recoil could cause a problem., If set back enough the decreased internal space could cause the pressure to spike. Whether or not this is enough to cause the problem remains to be seen. Is there enough crimp on the ammo to keep the bullet from being set back?
 
Everytime I get ready to buy a new S&W I hear a new story like this. The round that blew apart the pistol...had it been in the chamber before? I have suspected that these failures are due to bullet set back.
 
This whole situation sounds bizarre to me.

I researched the hell out of M&P pistols before I bought one and I heard very little about any M&P pistols "blowing up".

Not to mention most of the commenters here not saying much about this issue.

This is my first day posting here, but I couldn't help but jump on this. Not trying to be rude, but you may just happen to be the ultimate Glock Fan Boy. Why do I say that? The reason you're putting such an emphasis on "ANOTHER Shield 40 blowing up". Why such an emphasis on ANOTHER Shield blowing up?

But with all respect, if it did happen, fortunately you're okay.

You are positive you weren't shooting a Remington R51, right? (Lol!)

And what makes the Shield's internals any different than the full size M&P 40, any way? I'm unfamiliar with the Shields, but have heard great things about the Pro Series.
 
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I own 3 M&P's (a .9mm Shield, 9c, and a .40 Pro Series). Most days the Shield is my EDC (under a dress shirt) and these stories make me glad I stuck with .9 mm for that weapon.

On the other hand, the .40 got the full Apex trigger/sear treatment and it's like a new pistol! I carry that gun whenever possible (nights, weekends, etc.) just because it's so accurate and so darn fun to choot! :D
 
"This is my first day posting here, but I couldn't help but jump on this. Not trying to be rude, but you may just happen to be the ultimate Glock Fan Boy. Why do I say that? The reason you're putting such an emphasis on "ANOTHER Shield 40 blowing up". Why such an emphasis on ANOTHER Shield blowing up?"

and

"I call BS, your story simply isn't adding up."

I love this forum because there is so little of this type of stuff on it. I would consider this the most "professional" forum I am a member of. Geez guys lets keep it that way.
 
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